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Is Firefox is the best or not?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ruman, Dec 15, 2008.

  1. drhowarddrfine

    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    #161
    A backup browser? People have a need for a "backup browser"?
     
    drhowarddrfine, Dec 28, 2008 IP
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    Sensei.Design Prominent Member

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    #162
    a browser he uses when opera does not work like he want's it to or if opera is not aviable
     
    Sensei.Design, Dec 28, 2008 IP
  3. aaronlamont1

    aaronlamont1 Guest

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    #163
    What about flock, similiar platform as firefox only many people had said that it is faster, I didnt really notice the difference when I tried it out.
     
    aaronlamont1, Dec 28, 2008 IP
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    HydroJohn Active Member

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    #164
    I personally prefer I.E instead of firebox, but its preference not which is better :)
     
    HydroJohn, Dec 28, 2008 IP
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    jeremycollins Peon

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    #165
    I use firefox, but I have tried opera before. I really enjoy firefox, its just that opera is not as customizable as firefox is.
     
    jeremycollins, Dec 29, 2008 IP
  6. iTrump

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    #166
    I switched from FF to the forked browser Flock a few months back. Same engine (Gecko) but isn't the resource hog or freeze-up like FF was giving me.
     
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    Onthenetwork Banned

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    #167
    I must say above all the other browsers FF seems to be the most reliable...
     
    Onthenetwork, Dec 29, 2008 IP
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    pcz Well-Known Member

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    #168
    Like he said everything is better than IE.
    Try the new google chrome :)
     
    pcz, Dec 29, 2008 IP
  9. Le GoogelGuRu

    Le GoogelGuRu Guest

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    #169
    I used to really love Firefox but I've recently switched to Google Chrome and I love it now.
     
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    webzy Peon

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    #170
    Hi,

    I think Firefox is the best browser. I have not had any problems yet. I like it
     
    webzy, Dec 29, 2008 IP
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    #171
    I like Firefox because of all the plug-ins that are available for it. But just lately I have really noticed it being a resource hog.
     
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    #172
    My 2 cents...I believe that all depends on what you are using your browser for, I personally use firefox because I love the addons available. If however you are looking for speed then you should check out the new browser from google called Google Chrome it is just in beta now but man is it fast and clean.
     
    vincentc, Dec 30, 2008 IP
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    tejh Banned

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    #173
    Firefox is the best for me
    it has lots of useful features
     
    tejh, Dec 30, 2008 IP
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    I've had an inherent distrust of FF because of it's Netscape heritage for a long time. The whole "it's not a bug, it's a feature" fiasco, every version prior to 3.0 effectively locking up ANY computer I used it on at 100% CPU use until you manually killed it's process (I was able to do trip the 'bug' in under 15 minutes with my normal browsing habits even on machines people said had no problem with it) and it's slower than molassas javascript engine and rendering of dom changes only further skewed my opinion against it. Not obeying the system metric, handling content resizing like the sweetly retarded cousin of Netscape 4 that it was, routing every damned image save through the malfing buggy download manager, etc, etc, etc...

    Tack on that there are gecko bugs dating back a decade or more... padding-right on input elements screwing up 'internal' elements like dropdowns and scrollbars, significant parts of HTML4/CSS2 outright missing (bugzilla #915 just celebrated it's tenth anniversary of lip service last month), and them pushing forward with HTML5/CSS3 elements when they've not even finished HTML4/CSS2? Of course this is an inherent problem in free*** open source, if it's not cool to work on and brag about and it's not actually worth it to anyone to pay for a bounty, problems will remain unaddressed.

    Much less the rampant FLOSS fanboyism worshipping at the Church of Stallman like the second coming of Karl Marx.

    All that said, FF3 fixed a LOT of the things that were wrong with Firefox. I don't have to kill it's process every 15 minutes, (and as a web developer it's not like I can NOT use firefox for testing pages), we finally have a decent content resizing (though that still needs a LOT of polish), the latest version now ***SHOCK*** obeys the windows system metric meaning large font/120dpi users actually get larger fonts (who'd have thunk it)

    Problem is, it's too little too late so far as my using it as my primary browser. I'm using Opera for my normal browsing because it has more mature tabs (like the ability to detach them into their own windows so I can put them on a different display), and does more 'out of box' in less of a memory footprint. Drag and drop of favicons to make quick launch buttons (blows the **** out of those stupid bookmarks toolbars), speed dial (which everyone's ripping off these days), a MUCH better download manager (putting it on a tab - who'd have thunk it!), flip navigation, hand gestures... Sure some of those can be added via extensions, it's just with a smaller memory footprint with a smaller distro with all of that built in? That's a no-brainer.

    For development, I suck it up and deal using all the major browsers since when making a site you need to test, test, test and then test some more. In that area FF has always brought nifty goodies to the party by way of extensions and is an essential tool.... For use as my daily browser the technical issues I had with Firefox made me miss the boat on the rampant fanboyism and look somewhere else as for me, until 3.0 it was less stable than IE (and that takes effort) - and only since the release of 3.0 have I stopped saying **** firefox and the open sores it rode in on.
     
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    FF has not relied on Netscape for many, many years and Netscape, of course, is out of business now.
    Since the vast majority of users have never witnessed this problem (including me and everyone I know) I would have looked elsewhere for the problem. But bringing up problems from years ago doesn't mean anything now.
    I'd have to look at the last statistics I saw but I don't recall anyone ever saying that.
     
    drhowarddrfine, Dec 30, 2008 IP
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    HERITAGE - it is based on gecko, which was developed and released to open source by NETSCAPE. You do know what heritage means, right?

    Ah yes, the 'it didn't effect me so it must not be a problem' mantra. Is any of the rest of this going to be anything of substance more than the 'is not'.

    Unless of course you are talking trust. Behavior in the past effects trust in the present. Dismissing these sorts of things are akin to saying "Soviet Communism, let's give it another chance"... Or maybe that's just the jew in me saying "Never forget" (oh bugger, did I just trip Godwins law?)

     
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    i.khan Peon

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    #177
    Now a days I am using Mozilla Firefox. It work very fast compare to other browser.

    I can change tabs colors. Also using short cut key.
     
    i.khan, Dec 30, 2008 IP
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    its the best, since its the most stable one for me...
     
    adonthenet, Dec 30, 2008 IP
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    Firefox is the best browser so far for Linux. I'm desperately waiting for Google Chrome to be launched for it.
    btw, Codeweaver's Chromium is the unofficial port of Chrome to Linux but its damn slow as compared to the windows version and firefox on Ubuntu.
    I feel that opera is still better in some aspects. It was considered faster than firefox until the realease of Firefox 3.0.
     
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    Have you tried Opera on *nix?

    Since Chrome is just another webkit distro with a different Javascript implementation, a slap of paint and a less than useful speed dial ripoff, have you tried Konqueror? After all, that's what gave webkit (aka KHTML) it's start!
     
    deathshadow, Dec 30, 2008 IP