Does God exist?

Does God exist?

you will get many answers some say yes, some say no, and some say we do not know, and most of them if not all are honest in what they tell you about God, but that will depend on how each of them imagine God,

one may have an image of God as an old man sitting on a cloud from what he has learned and heard from around him, stories s/he heard, fairy tails, or from the religions and beliefs s/he familiar with, or elsewhere, and finds it hard to believe it, so s/he would say God does not exist, but will you be sure that he means that God does not exist, or he means God can't be an old man sitting on a cloud?

the same can be measured on any image about God a person has in his mind, because simply, there is nothing like God, so we can't have an image and associate it with God,

so where? when? how? somebody may ask? is God a part of universe? or not, then go to ask, what is universe?

when somebody say "exist" somebody else may attach it to a place, and time, like in the image but instead of trying to answer the question of how does God look like, here there is a try to answer the questions of where and when? or in other words here is a try to control God, by giving him a shape, and put him in a place, when there is nothing like him, and he existed before time or place,

and some say God does not exist because for example, he allows children to die, or allows much suffer, then jump to the after death and say there is nothing there, they answered these questions before understanding the reason why they are here, or for what purpose, to know where you will go next, its logical to understand why you are here before, then go and worry about where you will be next? am I here just to survive? as specs? or just to have fun before my time is up?

anybody who ask "Does God exist" will get many answers of yes and no, but even if all people answered him with either yes or no, the person will not stop asking if s/he felt the question was not answered, this same question been asked since history, people wanted to describe what can't be described, much like asking somebody to count from 1 to the biggest number ever,

we know that beyond any big number there is even a bigger number, even if you spent 100 lives counting you will not reach a number and say this is the biggest number ever, in it's most you can say this is the biggest number I can count to, but you know very well there are more numbers bigger than it,

so people invented a name for this case and called it infinity, but did they imagined it or invented infinity? it did exist and we gave it a name, and it's being used and very important concept in science, yet, nobody could reach it or described it, it becomes useless to keep counting,

same when you stand in front of a huge light, you will naturally close your eyes to protect them and if you insisted in looking you may lose your vision, then, can you say there is no light? or light does not exist? what if somebody been born without the sense of vision? for him, does light exist or not?

even f you have all your senses well, you are limited in your senses and in your mind abilities, but even with these limited abilities mankind from looking at this infinite universe was able to understand that such organized and ordered system did not find itself by itself, or by chance, or by a big bang, at the same time they could not accept that it existed from nothing, in the universe where always there is a cause and effect, hard to believe it just came from nothing?

so they concluded there is a founder, and this founder abilities is much bigger the universe, if the universe itself is infinite, if beyond any limit of it there is something, if with something simple like numbers there is a bigger number beyond any big number, would they be able to reach God with these limited senses and mind? and if they saw God will they be able to understand with such limited senses that can't even look at an intense source of light?

I m not trying to answer your question, I for myself know that God does exist, but If you want an answer for this question, then try to find it yourself, this is why you are special with the mind you have, to use it, but do not make the mistake of thinking you knew it all as the ones who worshiped Sun thinking it is God, or those who did not know what causes thunder and said Zeus did it, and then judge, if you want, check the accumulated knowledge of mankind, starting from Greek philosophers, who thought universe is made of 4 elements, until now, that if you look badly for an answer, if it is unimportant for you, you won't bother of course, you will just go and post such question on a forum and make yourself exposed, does not mean it's bad to do so, you may adopt a believe from there, but later it may fall for you, so you will keep looking with some added knowledge, or stop looking and say there is no God, if you found that God can't be an old man sitting on a cloud? or an old man who has a family.

good luck

 

Define God and I'll tell you if he exists

 

I define God as Optimus Prime. A nice thought, but we would have to build him.

 

Good post.
May Allah reward you a good reward.

 

if we believe that someone make our computer - so someone make my eyes. they cant created from the dust.
here link of 100 profesors that say this: "WE ARE SKEPTICAL OF CLAIMS FOR THE ABILITY OF RANDOM UTATION
AND NATURAL SELECTION TO ACCOUNT FOR THE COMPLEXITY OF LIFE.
CAREFUL EXAMINATION OF THE EVIDENCE FOR DARWINIAN THEORY SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED.”
here the link to the statement
http://www.discovery.org/articleFiles/PDFs/100ScientistsAd.pdf

 

Actually, complexity is not always the way things evolve. Sometimes complex things lose out in favor of the simpler things. Go look up the Koala Bear's brain.

 

1. Those people don't necessarily reject evolution or common decent.
2. Careful examination of all evidence for all scientific theories should be encouraged.
3. The vast majority of the people on that list aren't biologists
4. when contacted many of them didn't even know they were on the list and of the biologists on the list 88% accept evolution and accept common decent.
5. When they asked for their names to be removed from the list because they disagreed with the statement their requests were ignored

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1Bo6GmPqM
That video exposes the dishonesty of the discovery institutes list and creationists in general.

 

so you you beleave we came from chimps - ok good luck.
i prefer and know we came from god.
you can also see life after life evidence and say all are lie ?
all that skeptic must see this near death experience
true real story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdl6VU-cdOg

you can see now 57,000 strories and lectures in youtube about Near Death Experience.
some can say all is nonsense - but if we want to be serious in looking for god and want to know if we have life after our life - we must see.
1)there have blind people that can tell us how the room showed
2) they all say the similar procedure when they where dead.
3) According to a Gallup poll approximately eight million Americans claim to have had a near-death experience (Mauro, 1992).
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Near+Death+Experience&aq=f

 

Every time someone says we came from chimps - clearly having no fucking idea how evolution works - Cthulu eats a puppy.

 

You have just offended me by carelessly misspelling the name of my savior the Great Cthulhu [Pestilence Be Upon Him]. I'll report you and get you banned forever.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu

 

Nobody who has even the slightest understanding of evolution says any such thing. But I'd like to thank you for exposing how limited your grasp of evolutionary theory is, it saves us a lot of time. Now we just have the problem of how someone like you who doesn't even know what evolutionary theory claims feels qualified to refute it and the 150 years of scientific evidence supporting it.

What you prefer (or claim to know) is worthless if it isn't backed up by evidence. So feel free to believe in whatever falsehood makes you happy, but don't try to convince us you are right unless you have something other than your wishful thinking to support it.

24 million believe Elvis is still alive. (8%)
4 million believe they have been abducted by aliens (BBC)

So what conclusion can we draw from these statistics? That the higher percentage of people who claim something makes that thing more likely? Or that people are generally bat shit crazy and prone to believing in absolute bollocks?

 

Of course not. Because if he does exist, he won't let infants dying of malnutrition, he won't let priest rapping little boys, he won't leave kids suffering of painful cancer...
No, religion is only a human invention used by the weakest people who need a support, mainly spiritual since no other support available...

 

Maybe not your god. My god eats infants (up to age 3 for girls, 13 for boys). My god believes in sodomy of almost any living creature, including popular political figures and other peoples gods. My god put cancer is here to provide physicians with gainful and profitable employment, and drug companies a product to sell. This is where I find my spirituality, which is essential for a human soul to be complete.

 

So I guess, you too, need a spiritual support...Fair enough...

 

You can say that to the feeble moderates. I am a fundamentalist follower of the Only True Church of R'lyeh.

 

Indeed, my soul is complete. Yours?

 

Soul is a religious term as far as I'm concern, and I don't believe. Therefore, I have no soul, complete or incomplete...

 

That is because Obama is the 2nd coming of christ..the messiah

Serisosly though, this is a topic me and the misses don't agree on. Istopped having invisible friends quite some time ago. And something tells me fully grown mature adults probably shouldn't have them either.

Religion is a bunch of crack and bull stories, written by man, to explain stuff they didn't understand.

However, I am formally creating a new reliigion. It is one in which we will all worship the mighty cockroach as the creator, for, they can live through anything, and have been around since the beginning of time. They much, be the true gods. All hail the mighty cockroaches, but, not the flying ones, just the crawling ones. The flying ones are just devils, trying to bait you to jump off a cliff because they said so.

 

Actually my Horseshoe Crab Religion has just declared a Jihad against your infidel Roaches, as our Horseshoe Crabs were around before the cockroach. 500 million years and counting! May you burn in hell, yadda yadda yadda.