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  1. Thomas J.

    Thomas J. Guest

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    #21
    Well, that is your opinion. Further, the order system is not the traffic server so realistically your comments are not appropriate to the sales and ordering portion which is independent of the traffic server for just this reason.
    And, as I stated, I am NOT responsible for conversions. That is entirely up to you and whatever your url offers.
    If you are seeking conversions, I suggest you optimize your web page better.
    Also, the keyword here is TRAFFIC not CONVERSIONS.


    Regards,
    Thomas j.
     
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  2. STRUK

    STRUK Peon

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    #22
    You can call this whatever you want, I ordered traffic from the United Kingdom and got users from Portugal, Norway, Germany, Poland and many other countries. I asked for traffic related to my niche but because it's just an iframe, nobody has actually seen my site (I've never seen bouncing like this before) and I could have a site offering them completely free money and still get the same results. What you're essentially doing is sending bots to my site which is massively pointless and like I said, to anyone even considering buying this garbage.

    DON'T

    Also, don't tell me to optimize my page better, I'm not looking for conversions I'm looking for an increase in genuinely interested visitors. Everybody except the "people" you're sending in is viewing at least one article before they leave and I have over 1,000 people signed up for my RSS feed after 2 months. Maybe you should optimize your service.
     
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  3. Thomas J.

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    #23
    Whatever! Yes. That is what I am calling it and you, STRUK.
    Now, please stay off my thread before I report you for harrassment.

    Thomas j.
     
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  4. STRUK

    STRUK Peon

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    #24
    Why are you now posting comments on my profile? You know that you are in the wrong here, my join date says nothing about my external experience and I know exactly what's going on here. Why you wouldn't just accept that you are selling improperly labelled services is beyond me. I explicitly chose United Kingdom only traffic but as you can see, I'm getting users from all over the place and since I'm the ONLY person to have spent over 30 seconds on my site, I don't understand how you can say they're from a set niche. I went through and the only page being visited is my homepage, I've never had that happen before but for some reason, the "people" you sent over aren't interested in the exact niche they would have come through to see. If it comes to it and you still deny what I'm saying, I'll post the site I had the traffic come to and we'll let the members of DP decide whether or not my site is boring enough to get absolutely zero article views.

    Here is solid proof of what I'm saying. Now, unless you can refute this, I suggest you rethink your service and come back when it reflects your description. As said before, I'm not looking for conversions as I have zero ads, all I wanted was for people to see what I have written about and to come from the UK within the selected niche. You've provided none of those things and you're lucky that it didn't cost more or I'd be disputing this with Paypal.

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    And before you say it's been Photoshopped, yes, I had to move everything around to ensure it would all fit on one image, anyone with Piwik should recognise this interface.
     
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  5. Thomas J.

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    #25
    I am very sorry you failed to recognize the service as it is offered. Meaning, your expectations are above and beyond the offer as advertised. There are at least 30 DP members who are benefiting from the offer and you have been the sole negative. Now you are depriving others by exploiting whatever you are attempting to display which do not now nor did they ever have any relation to an offer of TRAFFIC and VISITOR DELIVERY.

    Regards,

    Thomas j.
     
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  6. Thomas J.

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    #26
    Struk.
    I made you a sincere offer to refund your purchase price via Paypal and you refuse?? I do not understand what your agenda is if it is simply to make your opposition known, fine. However, once we both get past the hostility as I suggested, the situation is ultimately about one thing...
    "What is it I can do to make you happy?"
    If a refund is not in keeping with this situation...then I am open to any further suggestions you or anyone has to make it 'friendlier'. For instance, so you do not like my service. Fine, I accept your opinion and complaint.
    Still, I can't improve on the traffic service unless you lend a bit of support in the effort. For this support, I offer to compensate you the full refund.
    What else can I possibly do. I have provided you a sincere apology for the situation. Still, you elect to maintain a hostile posture. Again, I am sorry you are not happy with the service as advertised and in the back end resulting visitor traffic delivery. Honestly, I can't imagine what else you expect.
    And, sincerely, I regret the way this situation has been handled. However, you are also acting of your own volition and could be a bit more accepting of the situation especially given all things have been corrected with both our feedbacks being the exception. Much success to you in the future. . . a genuine hope for you to be happy, healthy and prosperous.

    Regards,
    Thomas j.
     
    Thomas J., Oct 1, 2009 IP
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    jophan Active Member

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    #27
    now please, if thomas is offering you a refund which only less people here on dp
    would do then you should at least understand that he cares about your satisfaction.
    it wouldnt be fair to expect from him more than this, as the next step would be
    to give you his soul but then he would be dead.
     
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  8. STRUK

    STRUK Peon

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    #28
    This is the extent of our communication and I stopped messaging her after that. As you can see, I explicitly asked for an end to our contact, but still received:

    Which, to me undermines every bit of work any woman has ever done to be seen equally. You really expect special treatment when you get all stroppy just because you're a girl? I think this is the most unprofessional I have ever seen anyone act in the face of adversity, especially considering I didn't ask for a refund, or a free extension of your service, I just put in an honest review. You took exception to that and instead of trying to address my concerns, opted to launch an ad hominem attack.

    As anyone reading this thread can see, there is a completely different vibe being put out in the public messages than in the private ones and has completely turned me off ever working with Tonya again. Had I been spoken to about the fact that I wasn't getting the traffic as advertised, maybe there would have been a different outcome.

    I will state again that I don't want a refund (it's $5, keep it) and I especially do not want to give up my time to fix your traffic system, that's not my problem any more. All I am looking to do is provide an honest review as many members earlier in the thread requested.
     
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  9. STRUK

    STRUK Peon

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    #29
    Also, I would have liked to have received a PM asking me to help you out when I first left a comment, but obviously that is a little beyond you and "shouting matches" over the Internet seem more of your forte. Since you've chosen to add me to your ignore list, I'll have to say this publicly rather than PM it to you like I would have liked to:

    I will be in contact with Bravenet and Paypal in the morning with the full details of what has happened as:

    1. I feel I have been more than fair in what I've asked, all I wanted was some explanation of why I wasn't getting the traffic as originally intended
    2. I specifically asked you to cease all contact with me but you sent me 2 further PMs

    Best of luck to your future customers and good luck to you too Tonya. Hopefully you'll learn from your mistakes and grow using what they teach you.
     
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  10. Thomas J.

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    #30
    Honestly, Struk. I have no way of connecting a DP member id with a paypal transaction or a campaign setup.
    I requested this info and you refused to divulge the campaign id.

    For this reason, I can not validate your complaint or even investigate it internally with the traffic server.

    I offered you a refund and you maintain a posture of open hostility. Point taken...you didn't like the service.
    Thanks for sharing.

    If any other buyers have similar issues, please send your complaint, question and comments to our support desk as instructed via the campaign stats control panel and email contacts.
    That is the single best route to getting your issues resolved without this airing of issues on a public forum.

    Thomas j.



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    #31
    I am very pleased with that service. I have ordered a package of 1000 U.S. visitors for a specific niche, and all goes well so far. Almost all (99%) of generated visitors are from U.S. I have also set a maximum limit for daily visitors, in order to distribute them on more days, and this works also. I'm sorry to hear about STRUK problems, maybe the initial setting about geographical area was saved as Europe instead of U.K. Now about the traffic: it is (or at least it should be) known that this kind of traffic has a quite low conversion rate, so people that uses these services should know very well what they buy (many visitors with lower conversion rate at a lower price than other advertising methods, which in my opinion is pretty fair).

    my 2c
     
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  12. Thomas J.

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    #32
    Thanks so much for your honest assessment and tips for other buyers.
    I am happy to hear you find value in the offer. We both recognize these
    traffic campaigns are not necessarily designed for converting and often
    times that is not an expectation for buyers. For those of you who expect
    paid visitor traffic - popunders- to offer high conversions this is not the
    service you want to order. In fact, you will be better off with some form
    of banner advertising service that requires increased engagement with
    visitors.

    Thanks again,
    Thomas j.
     
    Thomas J., Oct 5, 2009 IP