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Two queries regarding adsense on blogs

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by inman, Aug 21, 2006.

  1. #1
    I have a couple of queries regarding adsense on blogs.

    I used to get only blog related ads in blog. Last week I went thru many pages here in DP and found out the reason for it. I tried every method - removed the word "blog" completely, removed all top blogger list back links, no "blog" in URL whatsoever etc...Still I get mostly blog related sites.

    Atlast yesterday I used the Preview Sandbox and found out the blog related ads and then used Ad filter to filter it off. Now no blog ads appear on the content but on the link unit, it still does. Also I noticed some drop in CPC which I wonder if it is bcoz of the filter tool.

    Also I tried Google's Adwords External Keywords Tool in Site-Related mode to check for the keywords and to my surprise, it showed keywords like a blog (5), blog (142) etc... I can't figure out why it categories my site as a blog even though I have removed all kinds of references?

    My second question is how to locate the high paying ads for my niche. When I use the Preview Sand Box, I see 20 ads. Is there some way by which I can find out which are the high paying and which are the low paying.
     
    inman, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  2. Jarodboy

    Jarodboy Prominent Member

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    You have to wait for the adsense bot to crawl your blog again...;)
    The high paying one is supposed to be the top position ad
     
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  3. inman

    inman Peon

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    Thanks Jarodboy. I thought the bot will crawl within a few hours, just like other adsense settings.

    Also does the usage of Ad Filter decrease the CPC?
     
    inman, Aug 21, 2006 IP
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    qwestcommunications Notable Member

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    You should get ads based on the content thats on the page. In that regard, a blog is like a site. The theme of a page shall determine the ads.
     
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  5. inman

    inman Peon

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    Yes qwest. But those blog ads were really iritating. I hope the adsense bot updates my site soon.

    And another question. After the updation takes place, if I check my site using External Keywords Tool, will it show "blog" related keywords again?
     
    inman, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  6. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    If you're running a blog, then all you have is the word "blog" all over your source code. The first time Adsense spiders your site, all it encounters is the word "blog", so it assigns your URL to the "blog" category, thus you get generic blog ads until it can re-assign you. It takes time, anywhere from a week to two weeks for Adsense to visit your site often enough to remove you from the initial category it has placed you in (in this case, blog), and for you to start getting relevant ads to your content. Even so, when Adsense can't find relevant ads for you, it'll default to blog ads.

    Using the filter is pointless and a waste of your time. (Anyone who has done Adsense for more than a year will tell you the same thing.) Likewise trying to "pick out" the high paying keywords. Just add your content, promote your site, do SEO, and get the traffic. All the filtering and keyword targeting in the world won't matter if you don't have the traffic to convert it.
     
    jackburton2006, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  7. inman

    inman Peon

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    Thats very valuable info jack.

    I do have traffic. Nothing great but about 1500 to 3000 unique hits per day. I hope adsense soon asigns me to the right category.
     
    inman, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  8. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    1.5/3k day is excellent. How long have your blog been online? If it's new, are you diverting/sending traffic from another site? What blog platform are you running, WP, MT...?
     
    jackburton2006, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  9. inman

    inman Peon

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    #9
    I started the blog last month. It is setup at my own space using WP. It is an entertainment blog. Initially response was bad and I realised there is no point in waiting for visitors coming from search engines. So I worked out a new strategy.

    I started hunting for hard to find movie related video clips. Once I find them, I post it on my blog and then spread the word on generic movie forums, blogs, diggs, delicious, technoratti and also private communities devoted to the particular star/movie/company. In that way I started getting good hits. Moreover the Sitemap plugin for WordPress really helped to get indexed fast and stay uptodate on Google.

    Only problem is 85% of hits are fresh visitors. I guess it is not really bad as I dont need to worry about visitors getting ad blind. When I post an exclusive content, I get about 3000+ unique visitors. This will drop day by day as other sites will also come up with the same. Once it reaches around 600-800 mark, I start the next hunt. Like that it goes.

    Dont know how long I will be able to continue like this. I am also planning to migrate from WP to Joomla to setup a proper site rather than a blog. But I will loose the technoratti advantage that way.
     
    inman, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  10. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    Well you've done pretty good, I have to say, excellent marketing strategy. Too bad you're not getting relevant ads. What kind of "entertainment" are we talking about, like fighting clips, etc? I know a lot of webmasters with video sites that are having a hard time getting ads for their topic.
     
    jackburton2006, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  11. inman

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    In the beginning it was a blog featuring news items, song samples, trailers and other video clips from Indian cinema only. But soon I realised the value of non-Indian "clicks" and so I am starting to build some foreign content too.

    And Adsense stats is really getting me worried now. Yesterday I had $18 from 182 clicks. Today it is only $8.5 from 196 clicks. If things are not going to change, I will soon have to close down the site.
     
    inman, Aug 21, 2006 IP
  12. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    $8.5 for 196 clicks definitely sounds as if you've been smartpriced. That averages to around 4-cents per click. Give Adbrite a try. Some people have reported better earnings with Adbrite, and no dreaded smartpricing.
     
    jackburton2006, Aug 21, 2006 IP
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    kthor Well-Known Member

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    maybe it's from overclicking? once I had one of my ads clicked like 100 times
    and earning total was like .80C ... emailed google and asked the advestisers to be refunded.lol.. I then immediately change the title and keywords for better $$.
     
    kthor, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  14. inman

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    I shall give adbrite a try.

    Thinks arent looking good today either. I guess that will continue until adsense "re-bots" my site.
     
    inman, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  15. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    I don't remember where you said you're from, but if you're in the US, you can go the YPN route. I'm getting some pretty incredible earnings from YPN despite lack of targeted ads.
     
    jackburton2006, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  16. inman

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    No I am from India. Can't go for YPN.

    But Adsense has started showing signs of slight improvement. Yesterday it was $12.41 from 224 clicks. But today it is $10 from 181 clicks, with almost the same number of visitors. So there are chances of crossing yesterday's target.
     
    inman, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  17. jackburton2006

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    Well, those things go up and down, depending on what ads are being clicked on, so you can't really call them "patterns" until they happen over the course of a full 7 days (a week). Daily fluctuations in earnings with Adsense are as common as people making new threads panicking if they earn one cent less than yesterday, or all ecstatic that they earned one cent more than yesterday, etc.
     
    jackburton2006, Aug 22, 2006 IP