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Does God exist?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by scylla, May 13, 2009.

  1. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #201
    I could ask the same about blacks;)
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #202
    So much certainty. You guys must be millionaires!
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #203
    But you don't do you, you only ask if people are Jews. If not then you say they must be Christian.

    It is as if you have some sort of hatred towards Jews and anyone who disagrees with your view must be a Jew.

    Did a Jew steal your lunch money as a kid?
     
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  4. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #204
    Do you get all warm inside talking about Jews? seriously you mention Jew in about every thread, I on the other hand mention Jew when it's required in threads when Israeli's admit that Israel shoots unarmed kids.

    You also mention Muslims a lot and the quaran.

    Then imply someone is criminal because they listen to Rap.

    Have you ever thought of getting help for your xenophobia and racism? You clearly and your thread histroy and posts show, you hate muslims/brown people and blacks as we saw when you was sticking up for mia in the KKK thread;)
     
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  5. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #205
    Your reasoning skills don't get you very far do they?
    (or should I say the lack thereof?)
     
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  6. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #206
    Here's a tip, Try adding content to threads.

    I have yet to see you make one single post in the last month that was even half decent.

    Prior to this month I can't remember one instance of you actually adding anything to a thread, you simply enter (promote your bible, mention Jew, show disdain for blacks and muslims, show love to your buddies that are on the ropes justifying there intolerance).

    You just simply hijack threads and talk nonsense, just like your doing now :D
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #207
    It doesn't matter what I write, you won't agree and therefore you will call me names like racist. Kind of like what you are trying to do here.

    Show any disdain I have for blacks and then tell my mother-in-law that I must disdain her for her skin color. (At some point in your little game you may just figure out that what you think I am is so far from reality.)
     
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  8. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    Actually I'm respectful to all people that are respectful to me. I don't care if we agree or not whilst debating over a topic (that's life), the only time you'll see me making fun of people is when they start childish stuff first.

    Then I just point out things about them that are true, or show how ridiculous their position is.

    Nah this is a topic about "Does god exist", I gave my views (I don't expect everyone nor you to like that), but I did, like below:

    Then you said:

    So as we can see here, and everyone has already seen, you: 1) Thread hi-jacked, 2) Imply racism or anti-semetism when there is none 3) Mentioned the dread Jew word (Then you claim I'm mentioning Jews constantly;))
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #209
    You have a hard time following much of anything. I will be simple and clarify only one point here. I bolded 3 items. Do you understand why I responded that way now? (I will assume you won't because it will be beyond you to comprehend. You will probably attack or try to put yourself above me next.)
     
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  10. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #210
    Should it not be me asking you that? You started with your dreaded Jew word here 198, prior to that nobody mentioned your racism.
     
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  11. Dodara

    Dodara Active Member

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    #211
    Does God exist ?

    Every creation must have a creator and without a creator there is no creation.

    1. Since we humans, universe, etc are creations then we have a creator which we call him God.

    2. Since we are the most intelligent creations which have been created then our Creator is the most Intelligent of all creators.

    No one can deny that a creation must have a creator even the Atheists. maybe some ignorant might but it does make them right.

    Our intelligence have helped us to admit that fact to be a rule and correct, but the problem is not admitting if it is right or not. The problem is when the person start going beyond there mental ability and start asking:

    Who created the creator or where did the creator came from?
    Then you have possibilities like:
    1. The creator have been created by a second creator and the second was created by another and so on and like numbers it can not end.

    2. There is only one creator who has no creator and has no beginning and who has created everything.

    In both cases the human mind is limited and can not imagine something infinite or imagine something with no beginning, but we have 2 facts:

    1. We are creations and we must have a creator.
    2. We are limited in our senses and abilities.
     
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    #212
    Convenient that it does not apply to your god.
     
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  13. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #213
    Does God exist ?

    No.

    Every creation must have a creator and without a creator there is no creation.

    Not really. All it needs is chain reactions that lead up to other changes in matter. If you smash a rock, it just becomes a bunch of little rocks. If you have a chemical change, you're not changing the elements in them. If you have an atom smashed, you're not changing the bits that make up the atom. If you smash a proton, you're still not smashing the quarks. So on and so on. Can your mind fathom infinity? Mine can.


    1. Since we humans, universe, etc are creations then we have a creator which we call him God.

    If you want to call String Theory a God be my guest, but it is mindless. Not stupid mind you, but without thought, without planning. It happens.

    2. Since we are the most intelligent creations which have been created then our Creator is the most Intelligent of all creators.

    Who is to say that we are the most intelligent? Who is to say that a hundred light-years away there is an alien civilization that has conquered space, can travel vast distances, and knows more than we do about our mathematical theories and even has a Unified Field Theory that works? What then? Then THEY must be the ones your god wanted, not us! But wait, what if, life just evolves into what it evolves into, without any great plan?

    What if life is not divine?

    What if you are not special? OH NO THE EGO!



    No one can deny that a creation must have a creator even the Atheists. maybe some ignorant might but it does make them right
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    Or it makes you very wrong.

    Our intelligence have helped us to admit that fact to be a rule and correct, but the problem is not admitting if it is right or not. The problem is when the person start going beyond there mental ability and start asking:

    Again, you want to be special. You don't want to be not-special. It's all about the you, and how we are some kind of special species when, well, given the chance and a few hundred thousand years the Neanderthal could have been us. Uh oh.

    There were different species of mankind! Little kink to your thinking right there.

    Who created the creator or where did the creator came from?

    If there isn't one, why ask the question? A better question would be "What is the origin of the universe" of which mathematical quantum physics and the likes is hard at work trying to figure out. We built the Large Hadron Collider for a reason you know.

    Then you have possibilities like:
    1. The creator have been created by a second creator and the second was created by another and so on and like numbers it can not end.


    And that is how early man explained it with the Pantheon of Gods.

    2. There is only one creator who has no creator and has no beginning and who has created everything.

    And that contradicts your first point that everything has a creator. Its easier to just accept no creator.

    In both cases the human mind is limited and can not imagine something infinite or imagine something with no beginning, but we have 2 facts:

    Your mind might be. Mine is not.

    1. We are creations and we must have a creator.
    2. We are limited in our senses and abilities.


    These are not facts.
     
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    #214
    Dodara your post is entirely void of logic. I actually looked through it in search of a single thing that makes logical sense, and i found nothing.
     
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    #217

    Where did the the rock came from or the atom or the chemical change or the the process ?


    Can you deny that a creation can exist with no creator ?





    What if you watch too mush movies ;) Anyhow do you have prove that we are not the most intelligent creations ?! if you have no proof then you have nothing. Not that i do not agree your not ;)


    What if its not ?


    Exactly what im saying, can you prove it to be incorrect, ofcourse no, you cant and no one can and then your wrong.

    I'm special becuase im one of the most intelligent creations and there is no better creations than humans which is a fact... Of course if you want to degrade yourself to animals or
    believe there are some aliens hiding in another planet waiting for us to discover them go a head and ignore the facts and believe in theories.

    Prove please, no prove, no facts, you have nothing.


    Can you prove there is no creator of a creation, if you can not prove your claim, then its worthless

    Creation must have creator = Fact

    Bla bla bla = Jackuul's


    It proves there is a creator and proves we are mentally limited unless you can tell us what is the infinite number ?

    Then please tell us the infinite number ?

    They are, but animals have no brains and can not understand facts :D
     
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    #218
    I do believe in god. :)
    And God does exists thats why several people have faith in him.

    - Mr.President -
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #219
    You want proof that Homo neanderthalis existed? Google it.
     
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    this is the level of intellect you are dealing with Jackuul. I would suggest going down to his level, but i think cracking your head open, scooping your brain out and replacing it with pig shit is probably illegal.
     
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