How Do I Get Started in Adult?

Ummm, yeah I never proclaimed myself as a millionaire. I also said a general est of my numbers...but for a lack of getting off point I am not trolling. I simply see that when you explain and offer "advice" it should be real advice not some convoluted flimsy sales pitch. Because based on the link you sent me "explaining how it''s done" is really just a call to action on your part about offering you services for a price. However I genuinely understand what points you are making. Like I said I just believe in being more optimistic about the whole idea that you work with however I am not in the mode to spend money for advice. And honestly that's what it felt like you were doing.

 

great share dude

 

I posted out a whole step by step on what people can do for this business model, and starting out in the online market place, and doing a low risk R.O.I. in a short period of time, with minimal online/money making experience on their own. There was no charge involved in any of it. I mapped out the steps. The rest is up to them.

They can go get the content themselves, sign up for a clip store by themselves, process clips by themselves, register a domain, write description, and all the rest without my help beyond the O.P. and steps provided to them.

That said, it's the weekend and frankly I have better things to do with my time then argue with some know it all hard head. For those who follow the steps, they will make money as laid out as long as they are consistent. Once they master one store, they can add more.

They can then thank me later for the R.O.I. of both time and money. When they are ready to take that next step, I'm available.

 

You wont make much with all the free stuff bombarding the net every day.
Unless your one of those one or two real porn type entrepreneurs.

I suggest looking elsewhere.

 

Thanks mang. Happy to help.

 

If you are little more than some affiliate, I agree. I would seek greener pastures.

 

Do you own an adult site bare footsies ?

 

Yes. I have built, developed, sold, managed my own forums, clip stores, membership and other sites for more than a decade. I also still produce adult content for my own pay sites and clip stores. I only shoot my personal passion... feet and tickling. So for me it's not work.

 

I currently use the following software…

Adobe Premiere. I use this to pull the video from camera, and used to use it to process my clips. This is simply too slow for me since I now process many clips at a time, but would be good for you since you do not have volume. You can pull the clip from your camera via FIREWIRE and then cut, watermark, and process the clip all in one program. You do not have the multiple options for encoding, WMV, QTM, and so on which is helpful for later use. But it is a good program for your initial needs. I still use it for pulling the video myself. However, I then use other programs to make things much faster. I also use this program in the first step to render a DVD.

Sorenson Squeeze.
I use this program to import my videos, and compress them. It gives you the option to process many clips in a que, which I love, so I can load it up and go to bed. You also have the option to easily process the clip into other formats if you like. Which is helpful for limited content library and clip store use. It has a lot of other features I do not use, but it is a very robust program.

VideoCharge
I use this program for watermarking. Since I do many clips at once now via Sorenson. I also use this program to cut up processed clips. This is done in a few seconds and wastes little time. Which is nice. When you do this in Premiere, you have to wait for it to re-render. Again, not a big issue for you since you are starting out, but it is a hassle when you are trying to rerun 20 clips on stores and sites at once.

FrameShots
This little gem is awesome for video captures. You need vidcaps for your clip store, or I would recommend it, as I have found out that is converts best for me. You do not want to have to manually go through frame by frame trying to grab 6 shots from a clip. This program you can load up the clip, and set it to pull 10/50/100 whatever snaps, and then you just roll though them and pick 6. It does a nice job, and makes it much easier.

CuteFTP Pro
I use this program for my uploading of clips. I am not sure what all else is out there anymore since I have never had an issue with this program. I just update it so often as they add in new features. It does well for your uploading of clips, whether to site or clip stores. I do not like to use web browser uploaders. In fact, I can’t fucking stand them.

Adobe PhotoShop
I use this program for piecing together my 6 shots for the clip store. You do not need anything this fancy for this simplistic use. I am not sure what all else is on the market, but a simply editor should do the trick and there may even be a free one for this minimalistic need. I also use it to crop, and clean up, the raw images from shoots so I have it for TGP submissions and such down the road. TGP submissions are how you get a lot of links, and some traffic. It is really becoming more important for SEO purposes then it is for traffic generation now a days.

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A special note for those of you who are college students. You can get a discount on a lot of software by faxing them a copy of your college I.D.. Sometimes it is as much as 50-70% off!! So it is worth your while to check into it. Especially if you have a college I.D. to fax in for those more expensive programs.

 

CLIP STORES: INVALUEABLE DESCRIPTIONS (SEO)

These tips and suggestions really apply to ALL sites in general. However, you are going to have some additional quirks and variations with each site and how is best to use these things to your advantage.

I would recommend you get an AdWords account if you do not have one already. Not only will this become invaluable over time for other projects, but it has some tools that are helpful for you with domain names, and SEO. Specifically, the keyword tool.

When you are writing descriptions, you have to think of the long term benefits literally. Some of the things you do today will effect you next month, three months from now and so on. Google will use these things for ranking your site and the search engine SERPS so it is best to do it right out of the gate. You will end up, or should, start a spreadsheet that has all the descriptions for your content.

For me, I have an excel spread sheet that shows clip name (ToeHee001_DV), description, models in scene, and so on. I had one of my assistants do it for me. It took her a couple of weeks to go through them all. This really is helpful when you go to launch a pay site later, or re-use clips for other clip stores. Then you can just cut and paste.

Getting back to what I was saying about keywords in your descriptions. You want to make sure when you are writing out your descriptions, each one is written out like you are trying to entice members to whip it out and go to work off your description. That includes using good keywords for your niche. If you do not know the niche, research it.

I know what they are for mine, and I will use them not only in my descriptions for each scene and try and mention them, or different ways (foot worship, toe sucking, foot licking, etc..) I will use them in blogs, youtube, and other things as well. I will make sure that over time I start ranking for those keywords.

If you are in a niche you do not know go to Google. Start researching some of the better sites in a niche. Use "View Source" and view their meta tags. Go back to your Google Adwords and type those phrases and keywords in to see how many searches they get per month. Over time, you start narrowing in on key words and phrases that are the 'hot ones' for your niche. You want to try and work those 'hot words' into your description when you can. Do not force it. If you are writing out quality descriptions, you will get them in over time.

Remember, when you are doing keywords and descriptions. These are long tail SEO and SERP tactics that will help you with algorhythms later. The number of times they keywords and phrases repeat on your website, in your descritpions, in your title tags, and so on.

They are not going to work SERPS by themselve, but they will give you a good solid first step.

 

I'd advise Procoder for video convertions/watermarking also.

 

Personally this is what I do for new clips in regards to FS.

1. Process, and compress videos from DV AVI to WMV. Including watermarking.
2. I then cut the full length into 3 minute pieces, or three parts and put in three folders.
3. I then use FS for each partial clip. Snapping 30 stills per clips.
4. I then will then review the 30, and look for 6 I think sum up the scene from beg to end.

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5. I do this for all three parts. Making a six shot preview.
6. I do not close the images after I am done with each six shot. I will need them for final.
7. Once done with all three 6 shots. I then will pick 2 images per section, and make FULL.

I personally think this works best for converting sales to do it this way. But it's is a little work. C4S has added in some new features in the past year where they will make an animated gif of the scene for you. Also allowing you to set a preview of 10 seconds or whatever per scene.

I personally do not care for these because they are not accurate pertails unless you allow full video play of the scene. This is where your description is 'key' to the selling part of it. You need to write a good description for each piece. Not just, "Some broad gets her toes sucked", or, "Some skeezer enjoys foot love", or "A bunch of heffers tickle fight", etc...

Hope that helps.

 

Very smart thread and interesting information. I think this could be a good investment for those with the work ethic needed to make it profitable.

 

Picking Your Niche:
One of the main questions asked is about which niche to pick for running a clip store.

On my examples, and screen shots, I used foot fetish and tickling content. That does not mean you can't try other niches out there, including those you have more of a personal interest in and understand. However, I can't speak to ALL niches and their performance on a clip store.

If you want a good guide for what is selling. I would look at the main page of Clips4Sale, and see what niches and stores have a lot of sales. Then look at how they are doing their clips, descriptions, etc..

Warnings:
I have actually tried a few secondary niches myself. Results may vary depending on if the model(s) are actually answering emails, and doing any interaction with your patrons.

I mention this, because a lot of times I get an email about some guy who has local girls wanting to do solo, or wanting to do this or that for extra money and they think that they can do it and make a mint. You are not, unless she is directly interacting with the potential buyers.

I have had little real success with solo girls. That includes EX-GF content, even solo other things of fetish content. A solo girl, especially one who is not talkative and chatty through the scene is not really going to sell a lot IMHO.

Also, you need to keep in mind the length. Solo girl clips tend to be a lot shorter. So you could sell 200 of them, and not make a lot of money. It's hard to get these girls to do things on camera for 5-10 minutes.

I personally feel that grouped scenes work best. The scenes are longer, you can cut into pieces for additional updates, there is more action for you to write out tasty descriptions with keywords, and so on. I know it sometimes sucks writing out those descriptions, but they make a huge difference I have found.

So I would stay away from the EX-GF type of material, at least for clip stores, and almost all solo girl stuff unless they plan to interact (i.e. email, cams, etc.) with those patrons.

Lastly, I would say that starting out you are better to pick a niche that SELLING instead of your own preference. This allows you to recoup your investment on content purchases, and learn the ropes. At least you know the niche, and content is in demand. Once you have learned a trick or two, then add in some of your own flavor and see if you can sell it.

Some markets are going to be overly saturated. They could be yours if you are into mainstream, vanilla, run of the mills stuff. So it's better to be a bit more nichey, or sub niche to start while learning.

 

Agreed.

I have said before, and will say it again. Online is not a get rich quick scheme. For those who have the work ethic, this is a money maker with minimal risk, decent R.O.I. of both time and money, and low entry level of online skill needed.

Follow the steps, learn the business, make some money. In time, learn the other skills needed. HTML, traffic generation, SERPS on a bigger scale, etc..

 

Well, there are sub niches to every niche out there. They are not going to sell on volume like the main one, but you can typically target buying, decent recurring members.

For example in Foot Fetish. There are endless sub niches. Some lesser known..

Cast Fetish
Peddle Pumping
Crankers
Crushing

Then you have the higher selling, and bigger markets like Foot Worship, Foot Jobs, Stocking/Pantyhose/Nylon, FemDom, etc..

I can't speak to all niches and their sub niche markets, or their popularity because frankly I do not try and appeal to everyone. I stick to what I know and understand. Not only in production, but also in regards to selling.

 

Some Additional Tips or Q&A:

About Content Licensing:
1. You want to have licensed content, with 2257 docs.
2. Not all content providers will provide descriptions for scenes. I do, most do not.
3. Typically content is delivered by FTP, and you have to download it. HDrive costs more.
4. You do not need exclusive/semi exclusive/HD to make money. Especially on clip stores.
5. You can re-run the content over and over for years and make money.
6. Not all content providers allow clip store, or tube site, use. Check restrictions.
7. Most licenses are non-transferable.
8. You cannot license purchased content to others. But can sell to customers.
9. Not all content comes with images. Or vice versa.
10. Bit rate, and size or dimension of videos will vary with different providers.

Clips.Com:
1. They are another clip store type of site you can use. Hardcore will typically do better.
2. They default charge .25/50ct per minute versus C4S charging $1.00 per min.
3. They typically do not sell as well as C4S, but you can still make money with them.
4. Their interface, the approval process, and admin is a bit different.

Additional Quick Points:
1. You want to watermark all clips. Point domain to your clip store.
2. Schedule your updates once per day, and have them run through the day.
3. You can increase traffic with minimal promotion using TGP and other submits.
4. Use short clips or trailers in promotion (if allowed).
5. Clip stores pay once per month. Check/Wire/ACH.
6. You can start a clip store as an individual. I recommend long term you form company.
7. I would recommend you have at least three hundred, 5-10+ minute, clips to start.
8. Maximize your content. Pay sites, clip stores, DVD (if allowed), mobile, free sites, etc..

The clip store should be your first baby steps to making money with minimal risk in adult. Once you learn the ropes in a few months, and start understanding the how's and why's, you would want to either launch more stores. Or start upselling your pay site. At those point you would then point the domain to your pay site, instead of the clip store. Some people will want to pay on a per month basis, instead of on a per clip. So you would want to cater to both segments.

If you have minimal time, and simply want to do 2/5/+ clip stores alone, that's fine. Some people never open a pay site or sell DVD's etc.. It comes down to your time commitments and what you can ultimately do on a CONSISTENT basis. However, ultimately, you would want to provide these other revenue streams to get more business and sales.

This is a starting point for low risk, and R.O.I.. Not the end all, be all, to adult.

 

I have had a few people ask me about camera gear because they are DETERMINED to shoot their own.

Mind you, I do not recommend this until you have learned how to drive traffic, convert a sale, as well as some other things involved in just RECRUITING girls. Which does not get into filming them correctly, and planning out your sessions.

But for those who've asked, here is what my buddy recommends.

You could probably escape with a $500.00 consumer camcorder like I did for years. But this is a middle of the road recommendation from him, and what I am looking at for myself. So you can opt to go a consumer camera route to minimize your start up expenses. But just giving you both options.

When I started years ago. I started out with $3-5000.00, a consumer DV camcorder, still camera with a couple memory sticks, a lot of batteries, some blue gels from the camera store, construction lights, a house with nice sunlight, and I shot during the middle of the day.

Unless you are looking to directly produce and license content to programs, brokers, I do not think you need to be shooting on the highest of high end to start. I have made plenty shooting like I did. Not only on clip stores, but membership sites, DVD, among other things later.

 

Do you Know a site like C4S where i can get pay via paypal? Im not from USA.

 

I do not know of ANY who will accept PP, unless you are using the PP debt/credit card.

But as for paying straight PP. I do not think any do.