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How are you building and maintaining your web sites?

Discussion in 'General Business' started by tbarr60, Sep 25, 2006.

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    I notice a lot of people here seem to not go much beyond WYSIWYG page creation with maybe a little HTML coding. I code in ColdFusion and use/modify PHP applications. I can't image trying to maintain a site without some coding skills.

    So, how are you building and maintaining your web sites?
     
    tbarr60, Sep 25, 2006 IP
  2. superpump

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    lol it is easy to maintain good sites without coding knowledge, that is what the "services" forum is for lol.
     
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  3. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    By maintaining, what do you mean? I read a post from a guy looking to find software to clean out links to outdated news articles. I'd probably charge him 2 to 10 hours to write some code to do that depending on the architecture of his site so it would cost him several hundred $ to get it done unless he rolled the dice with a developer from a developing nation.

    Are you talking about HTML and content maintenance or enhancements that require some complex coding?
     
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    The only HTML/PHP development tool I use is the text editor UltraEdit, which I switched to about five years ago after using Notepad exclusively for the previous six years before that.

    Text editors, baby... they are the only way to go ;)
     
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    Wekky Active Member

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    he was talking about no coding, how people with no coding skills make and maintain sites. only with proggies like front page or dreamweaver, but no coding.
     
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    There are lots of Open Source Content Management System out there allows you to build a site without knowing HTML coding. Take a look at Joomla, Drupal, Geeklog and check out their demo page. You can update contents, links and even change template just by couple mouse clicks.
    Hope it help...
     
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    A lot of people here use a CMS of some sort. Especially the people who run a bunch of sites at once. If there's a certain feature they need that the CMS doesn't have, then they buy a script off someone.
     
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    Okay a few years back I built my own CMS (using UltraEdit :p ) and added a web form based WYSIWYG editor (WYSIWYG Pro) to my CMS's interface. This way I can quickly update some of my sites and my wife can update her own website. My CMS works very well and does exactly what I want. My older sites including my chemistry site are still hand coded using UltraEdit.:cool:
     
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    Php and notepad all the way. If I want something added to my CMS, I just build it.

    I know it's possible to do it all using WYSIWYG, or by using and modifying other people's scripts. But I'm a control freak, and I love the flexibility that comes from knowing how to code.
     
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    I prefer to code my own stuff and find that wnen I download apps like phpNuke, phpBB, etc. I end up hacking away at some core file to get things the way I want or I am forced to make changes for security reasons (like changing the location of admin.php).

    I find it very hard to live with off the shelf web apps. They are restrictive and always a target of hack-bots.

    And to KLM, I just tried UltraEdit in 1997 and it's been my text editor of choice since. :D
     
    tbarr60, Sep 25, 2006 IP
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    I am building most of my sites with my own made CMS system. I code everything in "vi", php, mysql
    Using some pre coded apps, like phpbb and advanced poll. Just created myself a blog aswell and using wordpress for that.

    I could never handel my sites without own made code and my CMS, would be way to much work
     
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    Visual Studio 2005......pure html, javascript, asp $$
     
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    I've come across people who are just the opposite, relying on off-the-shelf stuff for better security and faster working. I guess that's okay if you stick to a small number of favoured apps, and you are prepared to watch for and implement updates frequently. And you don't mind everything looking like a clone of everyone else's. And if your own knowledge of security is pants.

    I agree, it's much less work down the line if you put in the effort to learn a scripting language in the first place.
     
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    svajdlenka Well-Known Member

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    I prefer selfcoding. Only for forum I use phpBB. It is better and you have full control above your project. As enviroment I use FAR manager and his editor. It also contains FTP plugin for deploying. I am lookin for some good free IDE for PHP but I was unsuccessful.
     
    svajdlenka, Sep 26, 2006 IP