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Does God exist?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by scylla, May 13, 2009.

  1. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #621
    So love , creativity altruism and mercy are bad things . Thats all I wanted to see . If your propaganda will go as far as denning human thought .
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #622
    No they aren't bad things, but they also aren't "illogical". I have explained what benefits they provide and what their naturalistic origins are. Just because you are too dishonest to acknowledge that this has been addressed it doesn't mean it hasn't.
     
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    #623
    I'm a biochemist and there are different receptors for different molecules that effect the emotions of a person. we can determine regions of the brain where specific emotions are mediated. there is the fight or flight response that are quick, reflexive movements that are thought to be mediated by spinal nerves. we are not the far away from understanding emotional responses in more detail.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #624
    Luckily people who don't understand biochemistry can still just use the "Anything I don't understand is the province of god" argument. LOL
     
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    Super , would you be so kind to tell us if there is a chemical algorithm behind love . My cousin is also a biochemist but he didn't managed to answer my questions regarding human sensations and behavior and we where talking about just some simple receptors .
     
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    #626
    as far as we know chemicals in the body do not work like an algorithm. its a simple response to stimuli or homeostasis needs.

    human sensations are determined by our nervous system and is processed in the brain

    here is a helpful link:

    http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih2/addiction/guide/lesson1-1.htm
     
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  7. Asif1

    Asif1 Peon

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    #627
    Does God exist? The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.

    All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!

    how it can be automatic?

    actually this complex system points itself toward its creator. My friends i believe in One GOD.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #628
    It's not automatic. We have billions of years of evolution to thank for the biochemical systems we now enjoy.

    Actually it points away from a creator. No creator would make a system with noncoding DNA and vestigial structures.
     
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    #629
    He knows that. He just thinks using technical terms makes him look like he knows what he's talking about.
     
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    Gerinja Well-Known Member

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    #630
    put everything in the "billions of years" box, and evolution makes sense. hahaha! just like saying you found a perfectly working watch in the dessert and claiming it made itself over billions of years. so ridiculous! haha!
     
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    #631
    the watch isn't alive
     
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    #632
    and yet compared to a living thing the watch is not as complexed. so perhaps we need to add another billion years to make sense of that... hahaha!
     
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    The watch isn't part of a group which reproduces, passes on genes and mutates. The watch has no way of coming about on it's own, Animals do though. Just because you lack the intelligence to understand it doesn't mean it's not true.
     
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    #634
    As far as I know you can take that link dear to you and shove it . Who do you think you're talking to ? An illiterate ?

    "As far as we know chemicals in the body don't work like and algorithm" lol seriously if you do have serious knowledge about chemistry don't use this type of simplistic answers I love inorganic chemistry and I have some good knowledge of organic chemistry as well so let's talk like two educated people not like Neanderthal to Neanderthal . You seem to have fallen right into my trap when I asked your for a chemical algorithm you know that it was an impossible answers since the human body is an electro-chemical machine and that the electric part is the one that give us headaches .

    For a 32 year old man living the state of New York saying he's a biochemist you fell into that one pretty easy . Sorry if this post offended you I just get pissed off when someone says his Alpha & Omega and comes up whit a childish link as his response .

    The debate was about the illogicality of love , mercy , altruism and compassion whit all the actions they trigger and such . stOx tried to simplify love to a chemical reaction . And then you came in the picture . Somehow along the way people got the idea that by proving that love is just a bunch of chemicals and volts then they prove that God doesn't exist . And that's where the debate got some heat into it .

    If you think you got some data that shows that love is a logical process (and for the sake of it don't simplify it we're not in the 10th grade learning advanced anatomy) please feel free to post them . I've recently update my knowledge about the neurological processes behind emotions but I'm convinced you could provide us whit some interesting data on the matter .
     
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    #635
    my friend please understand evolution is a deceit

    The Real Ideological Root of Terrorism are connected with Darwinism and Materialism,

    Most people think the theory of evolution was first proposed by Charles Darwin, and rests on scientific evidence, observations and experiments. However, the truth is that Darwin was not its originator, and neither does the theory rest on scientific proof. The theory consists of an adaptation to nature of the ancient dogma of materialist philosophy. Although it is not backed up by scientific discoveries, the theory is blindly supported in the name of materialist philosophy.

    This fanaticism has resulted in all kinds of disasters. Together with the spread of Darwinism and the materialist philosophy it supports, the answer to the question "What is a human being?" has changed. People who used to answer: "Allah creates human beings and they have to live according to the beautiful morality He teaches", have now begun to think that "Man came into being by chance, and is an animal who developed by means of the fight for survival." There is a heavy price to pay for this great deception. Violent ideologies such as racism, fascism and communism, and many other barbaric world views based on conflict have all drawn strength from this deception.

    This part will examine the disaster Darwinism has visited on the world and reveal its direct connection with terrorism, one of the most important global problems of our time. wanna read more....


     
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    #636
    Oh God , whit posters like you even I begin to question Darwinism . I think he meant to write involution instead of evolution :p
     
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    #637
    If you believe in God it exist.
     
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    #638
    Does that reasoning work for other fatuous made up bollocks, like fairies, santa and pixies too?
     
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    i came to see if any one replied my post.
     
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