The Proxy Discussion Thread

Welcome to the Proxy Business then

It's nice to see that you want to make a good start with a more or less "big" network. But as you said you are new here and i would advice you to start with less proxy sites.

10-20 are enough for start. Why i'm saying that number? Cuz it may sound easy to maintain a proxy network (well more will say that's a set and forget business but i would disagree to a point) but sometimes it isn't. Especially when you are new into this.

Free domains are ok but look kinda spammy and not all the proxy lists accepts them. So i would suggest you to buy some .info domains (they are not so expensive and look more professional to the end user's eyes).

The first script that you wrote is proxyeaters/proxycoders and you can find it free on google code. As for the second it's a modified custom so better forget that

Cheers

 

And why not but you might want to start off slowly and build up to your max number, if you've not done it before then you're in for a lot of work so learn as you go. The slow time for proxies is approaching (summer months) so is an ideal time for trying out things.

It is very cheap to do BUT you may have difficulty promoting as some lists (mine included) don't accept these domains (blame the spammers) and you might not be taken so seriously. Some people don't trust those domains because of the abuse that's occurred from some proxy webmasters, the few have spoilt it for the many, imho. It's a good place to start though and you'll get some good practice. Dot info domains might be better when you get better at it and dot coms for when you get really serious and want to keep and build on the network you make, plus dot coms are easier for people to remember too so have the potential to be proper earners long term.

Of course you do and I can't fault your taste but both are very customized versions of scripts, you'd have to pay big money maybe to get the same, or spend a lot of time coding yourself. The first one, topproxylist.net (yes it's mine) is using the atproxy.net script as the core code which is not readily available yet (the same script as moreproxies.com, another modded version). The 'skin' or theme is based on the free proxy coder script because that's what it started out as two years ago, I just modded it a lot and copied some of the css file to make it look the same. It is available if you search, it was by a user called xrvel.
The second list, activeproxies.org, is based on unik scripts 'speedy proxy' list and is available to buy but it has also been modified a great deal and a lot of effort has been put into that one too, so is another one that isn't 'readily available' to buy as is.

The one thing you haven't mentioned is also the most important - HOSTING. Proxy hosting is something that not many providers will do or even allow on their servers, it has to be specific hosting for proxies if you're to have any success. It doesn't have to cost a lot though, especially starting off slowly, xproxyhost.com does it for a few bucks a month and you can upgrade later if needed. There are others of course and some are better than others. If you're going to get really serious then a vps is the way to go or dedicated servers when you get 'big time' but they have their own issues and setup/maintenance problems. There is free hosting as well so it can be done for next to nothing if you want.

Other than that the thing to do is TRY! IM'ers have a saying - "take action" - or as nike says "just do it", either way give it a try, start slowly and build up. Have fun.

Also Oxuro types quicker and beat me to some answers but... what he said as well

 

i m not in USA,, when is the summer holiday starts? and finish?

 

Usually from 1st-10th of June through August 20th-31st.

 

this formula is 100% working guys.

 

heres the Proxy Calendat made by jorge

 

That calendar is nice! Thanks for posting.
@UncleP, sorry! I missed the 'but' in your statement about blocking traffic I guess ;-)

 

Free domains ruined (what was left of) the proxy business in my opinion and made it much less profitable for everyone.

 

Not really. If you have a steady proxy running on a .com domain name (which you could brand) then users would rather use yours instead of crappy free alternatives they get spammed by everyday...

 

Free domains have spoilt the proxy business I agree, too many crap spammy ones have been set up by people that only want a quick buck. They've flooded the proxy lists as well and it pushes the better ones off the pages, out of view, proxy users and owners suffer as a result. I wish more listing sites didn't allow them, then it might be fairer to those that have invested in trying to make decent proxies.

Dot coms are better for branding because they can be remembered easily, however, the promotion of all proxies is made harder by the flood of cheapo crap free domain proxies. Not all are bad by any means, just most of them.

I'm surprised the free tld's aren't just blocked wholesale by system admins tbh. That would go some way to solving the problem perhaps.

It didn't have to be like this but the world is full of 'opportunists' willing to sell their soul for few pennies, unfortunately. It's easy to do and a few (too many) do it to excess, this doesn't benefit anyone in the long term but it's something we all have to deal with now. It makes it harder to earn and means more work for everyone.

I did try them myself, like you do, but found their performance was well below par compared to the normal tld's, dot com/net/info etc. But you have to bare in mind that for some people in the third world, sitting in an internet cafe earning one or two dollars a day is a luxury (and legal) when the alternatives are sifting through garbage dumps for old plastic bottles and tin cans or cleaning up other (rich) peoples sh!t. It's a scale of economics.

 

UncleP sometimes I think only if the owner of @proxy network stops the submission of crappy free domains like .tk etc that will bring a lot of traffic for the paid domains. Mostly all these free domains are hosted on same server and same IP which isn't very useful for even the proxy users. I wonder what stops him from blocking these free domains.

 

The money of course .

 

I agree with you newbie191... if @proxy stops it,, its worth to pay $1 there to list my domain..

 

I do not allow free proxies on my proxy list sites.
Nor proxies that make it very hard for visitors to find the spot to input their url they want to go to.
Nor proxies that are nothing but one huge freaking ad and somewhere buried in all the ads is the submission form. (same as above really)
And now I am stopping all those proxies that on the main page do not even have a submission form!!!!
A visitor would have to be almost psychic to find the right button to click on to go to a page where they can finally add the url they want.

Plus once in a while, I check the proxies to make sure they are still up and running. Fit my rules still.
Surprising how many become porn sites!

Check out:
http://newestproxies.com
http://proxiesblog.com

 

I would also like to see free tld's blocked from lists, including atproxy network lists, the techbitsfaq one especially.

I think they'd make more blocking free domains and letting 'proper' proxies get listed, I'm sure their visitor numbers and quality would increase as well.

Yeah, me too, it's just not worth doing as it is now so it's their loss. But it's their list so it's up to them. It's very easy to do with that script too, I've done it with mine and it's only a few lines of code in the submit-proxy.php file.

TBH I don't think it's the actual free tld's as such that's the problem, obviously the domain providers should take some responsibility for the garbage they help make available and I'm sure it wasn't their intention in the first place to be the 'spammers delight' they've become, it gives them a bad name all round imho. I don't see how they can be making much money from it either, cheap would be better than free, like dot info's are to register (but not to renew), all they've done is become the pain in the internet's a$$. I know the internet is one big a$$hole and they're just another piece of sh!t passing through, but it's got out of hand now. I think the issue is the use to which these free domains have been put.

On the proxy side I personally don't mind genuine proxies whatever the tld is, if it's a real proxy and it works properly then that's all good, the many proxies on few IP's thing is a problem that will be faced by all commercial proxy hosting providers, free or paid, unless other IP's are bought by the user. (I was going to make a 'how to' guide for free proxies too just to show how easy it really is, that's on my 'to do' list for the summer hols).

I think the problem with free domains is the unscrupulous exploitation to excess by a few individuals. There are an awful lot of temporary proxies, by that I mean ones that disappear or get redirected after a day or two, or those that iframe to other domains, which are less than useless, or the plethora of subdomains, equally useless. The thousands of similar named ones or those trying to 'keyword target' ads are just as bad too imho. I think those are the real problem ones, and they all give the proxy business a bad name and reflect poorly on those that do try to make a proper go of it and earn a few bob legitimately.

And as iowadawg points out above, there's a lot of pretend proxies as well, far too many in fact. Not just free domains but normal tld's are now getting it. There's the 'click to surf' crap, a pet peeve of mine, I hate those. A lot of parked and adult domains get added to lists now as well, probably because it's easy and they're desperate for traffic, never mind that it's mostly kids that want proxies at school, d'uh! I'd be frustrated if all I got was garbage when all I wanted to do was log on to facebook at work or school. It just shows how little these spammers care and shows a total lack of respect.

 

I have been hosting Proxies for over 5 years and i can say that free domains did have a big impact on proxies.
Its hard enough for new people entering this niche trying to find a good host that allows proxies as well as making money of the low income traffic.

Not to spam but i am offering free proxy hosting to anyone but you will only be able to design the index page which happens to be where most people generate the bulk of their income. Also offering paid proxy plans for people who want full control.
BinHoster Proxy Hosting

 

I just got back into the proxy game with http://www.proxlox.net/
Can anyone recomend me an email blast service to promote it?
For the ads I'm just using PopAds on the proxified ads. I can't use Adsense due to my account being banned because of a click bomb attack a couple of years ago (The reason why I got out of proxies the first time.)

 

Why don't you give ProxyNoid a try , you can find some free coupon codes online by G00gling

 

Here is something for everyone looking for domains to register and start a new proxy site.
A nice list of 'proxy' domains now available to register.
All domains in this list have the keyword 'proxy' at the end.
All domains are two word only.
All domains are .com.

Go here to see the list.
'PROXY' Domains Available to Register

 

any good hosting?
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