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Do you think many ppl would care about Steve Jobs if.....

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by mt774, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. crispy critter

    crispy critter Peon

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    #21
    it has nothing to do with the color of their skin. Steve Jobs changed the world in a big way. He was a huge visionary.
     
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  2. Digital_shubhi

    Digital_shubhi Illustrious Member

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    #22
    People don't care much about the one who dies but the inventions or things done by him. :)
     
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  3. Emily Johnson

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    #23
    The fact that those people are still being recognized should say alot. It's not like they have been completely forgotten. Again, they both died long ago.... Steve Jobs died YESTERDAY. You really shouldn't compare them, anyway.
     
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  4. mt774

    mt774 Peon

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    But project said that many don't even know fred hampton is. They have not been forgotten completely maybe but their story's are never discuss in the same way as MLK is in schools; with the same urgency as MLK.

    why i can't compare?
     
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  5. Emily Johnson

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    #25
    I'm saying you shouldnt compare Steve Jobs and Malcolm X. They did completely different things to change the world. I mean, look at all the points we made so far...

    Also, how did you go from being upset about Steve Jobs to being upset about MLK vs Malcolm X? Are we discussing something completely different now?
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    There's a reason why MLK is remembered and respected and Malcom X is not... ;)
     
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  7. mt774

    mt774 Peon

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    #27
    why??? cause racists like Hannity said?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Because until Malcom X went to Mecca he used to think and call white people the Devil. I respect him for changing his views later in life, but that does not mean a good portion of his life was not spent fostering racial hatred.

    I am actually someone who respects him for his beliefs later in life, but you can't just look at the good parts and ignore all the bad.
     
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  9. Emily Johnson

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    Have you read the book he wrote before he died? He himself admits to being hateful toward white people. He realized he was just as bad as the white oppressors at one point in his life. It wasn't until much later that he changed his ways. I think that is why he can be a controversial character. MLK expressed a completely non-violent and non-hateful approach to the movement. Do you see the difference?

    For the record, I respect Malcolm X for his realizations and some of the great things he did for the country's future.
     
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  10. mt774

    mt774 Peon

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    I am not upset on Steve Jobs, i feel he deserves to be respected and remembered but my concern is that might he maybe not as publicly discussed as much if he was black.

    Besides Obama, what other black figure who dies would get as much revered as Jobs did today? I think a lot of ppl would actually celebrate if Al Sharpton died, like those stormfront types.
     
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    #31
    Ha. You beat me to the punch, browntwn.
     
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    #32
    Did Steve come to your house and stole your money?

    Fred Hampton was a militant, period.
     
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  13. mt774

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    #33
    Well you do know many like Minister Farrakhan think Malcolm X should have kept those views about whites.....

    What about Hannity and Rush Limbaugh? you know many people watch their shows when they are openly hostile towards non-white persons and still respected by lots of Americans, hannity is considered a patriot for his racist but malcolm x is always a radical militant.........
     
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  14. mt774

    mt774 Peon

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    #34
    so why isn't Bill O'Reilly?
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #35
    How did Hannity enter into the fray?

    Let's see, one was a champion of civil rights and a man of God, and the other a violent self absorbed racist.

    That's History, not Hannity.
     
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    #36
    What the hell Bill O'Reilly has to do with Steve Jobs or Fred Hampton?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #37
    Not many people celebrate the death of others, but I could imagine the people who Sharpton falsely accused of rape, something he has never apologized for, might not be too sad when he is gone.

    You seem overly fixated on race and yet that is the very thing you are accusing everyone else of and apparently the point of this thread. To be honest, I never really think about someone's race when they die or when they are alive. I think if that person touched my life in any way. Sharpton and Limbough are not even on the radar. I would not blink an eye if either one of them died. I would feel for their families but it would not really move me personally at all.

    Farrakhan is a disgusting human so it seems quite fitting he thinks that way.
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #38
    mt774 is another troll touting the 'That There Fox News' koolaid card.
     
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  19. mt774

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    I don't understand. Why are black men who display agreession with words for their cause consider "militant" "radical" but white men who display hate and ridicule on regular platform considered repectable.....?


    you know how many americans despise Farrakhan but are perfectly okay with Glenn Beck, and many English feel American right wingers to be bigoted for reasons such as that.....
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Because they used physical violence, not words.

    Glenn Beck? Jesus, who's next Geraldo? What's with your Fox News fetish?
     
    Mia, Oct 6, 2011 IP