Why does hosting on unique IP addresses have to be so expensive?

I have been looking through the sales materials from a few of the hosting companies that people talk about here in DP.

None of them seem to be able to offer unique IP addresses for multiple domain holders.

- At least not unless you pay for one "plan" per IP-address.

In other words it seems to me that you can easíly get multiple domains on one account at a hosting company, but never multiple IP-addresses on the same (inexpensive, standard-) plan.

do any of you know of a hosting plan anywhere that offers more than just one IP-address?

And why does it have to be so friggin expensive (retorical question mostly)

/Miko67

 

I know Dreamhost offers ip's for $3.95/month.
There plans are pretty cheap too!

 

Fantastic - and I just got a reply from the HostGator company that I have asked about this, and they say:

So it looks like we have a leader in the price war

Also their plans (for multiple domains on one account) are from $9.95 a month, so it seems they might be the choice.

Anyone know of a better deal...?

/miko67

 

I get my IPs at $1 each, sometimes I get like 25 for $10.

 

Where is this? It's no good if the hosting is like $100squillion a year

 

I get additional IP addresses for $.50/mo each from my dedicated hosting, it's not that expensive for me....

 

Expensive? I have a dedicated and they give me all the IPs I want for free

 

Technically speaking, there is a limited number of available IPs within the IPv4 addressing and thus ICANN requires justification for IP usage before issuing new blocks. Web host levy a fee to IP allocation to prevent misuse of them because if they don't, we would be out of IP addresses now. So basically only legitimate use of IPs would be allocated IPs.

 

"Extra IPs $1.50/month "

Hope i help,

Source: http://konker.net/vps.php

Rob

 

So you have a bigger private part than any of us... very nice fryman

Now put it back in your pants please, and maybe you could even consider using your overpowering intellect to help turning otherwise useless information into usable knowledge.

/miko67

 

Yep some dedicated servers company offers free ips but strickt justification
Anyway it depends on dedicated hosting i can easily purchase 12 ips block for 8$ per month from my dedicated server company..
Saad

 

I have the perfect tip for you dude.

there is a hostign company named allienhostingbase.
if you take a reseller account with them, they will asign a unique IP for your reseller resources (they will add a server with ip and whatever for you to build up your reseller business).
Offcourse you can't get all you want for less than the fair price... this resources are managed by cpanel. No shell conection is provided... but at the end, you may get something like 200GB storage with unmetered bandwith (we all know about the unlimited bullshit) with a unique IP for your site... but you will manage some ip's for your "theorical" clients...

 

I naively ask, why do you need additional IPs? My VPS gave me 2 IPs... why would I need a third? What's this "huge advantage" to having a site on its on IP?

 

That's a good question.

In order to get the most effect from links on different domains, speculation states that search engines will favor links from other IP addresses over links from same IP-address.

This makes it a little more costly to webmaster a large collection of sites for link exchange or link sales purposes.

/miko67

 

The reasoning why to be on your own IP address for each of your sites is it gives the appearance you are more serious about your business, and less likely to participate in spamming activities.

Goes hand in hand with domain registration length. 1 year = could be spammer 5 years = a more serious business 10 years = a very solid and serious business.

At $200.00 to $400.00+ per month for dedicated hosting there are few webmasters doing anything to risk a blacklisting and bringing all the sites on it into a bad light..

 

If you need to host SSL Sites, you will indeed need a dedicated IP address for each SSL Certificate. That's what I see may be the only justification for IP address which my datacenter would provide me.

Not everyone would subscribe to the SEO policy as far as some datacenter/web host are concerned. Usually they will assign you within the same block of IPs they have but from what I understand for SEO to be effective, the IPs must not come from the same block and must be as unique to the next to be seen as not linking to each other.

I mean if you have an IP x.x.x.1 and x.x.x.2 and you host independent site on each and just provide a linkback from one to the other, it probably not going to do much difference (assuming that the x.x.x are the same)

 

The only problem with that statement is, the datacenters and web host do not determine a sites ranking in the SERPs.

My post comes from what I have read on Google & Yahoo about the issue and whats seen in Google patent releases covering the subject.

And it is my opinion only

 

I don't deny that. I am just saying that Datacenters have the final say as far as allocating more IP addresses beyond the default allocation and at times they will not release a new IP block because you want to do SEO for your sites. They need to provide the justification for IP release through ARIN and they are not all that ready to dish out IP blocks to just about anyone who ask for them.

Of course, I am not discounting what you said about Google and Yahoo. I am sure they would prefer the backlinks coming from distinct parties not related to you rather than from one party making multiple websites that they own and doing the backlinks that way. This way, the ranking would be more true to the interests of the site as it would involve external parties.

The true way of getting distinct IPs would be then to be host each site with a different web host.

 

IP's are not that expensive, we charge $1 a month, the majority of people are fine on standard shared based IP.

 

I use hostdepartmenthttp://www.hostdepartment.com, I can get 10 unique ips for 10 bucks a month (Unlimited space, unlimited bandwidth). I wouldn't use them for a site that gets heavy traffic, but good for smaller sites or developing sites.