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SCAMMER ALERT user "iorgus" sorry for the delay DP I was extremely busy!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by liquidmedia, May 19, 2012.

  1. #1
    You must ban this person immediately unfortunately this person here scammed me out of $320 bucks out of my paypal TOLD ME to file a dispute with paypal because he has problems with his paypal lol this is a joke this person never transferred my site also transferred some junk site to me for some sought of compensation because of some bullshit ICANN excuse he came up with this is absolutely unacceptable I completed my transaction many moons ago and never got anything but bullshit, I never ever had any problems here until now this is the worse transaction I made in all of my DP history and never received what I actually paid for how is this person able to keep their membership here I'm not sure! I will be posting this on the forum where I made my purchase to let everyone here know of this persons tactics. I was unable to keep following up with the forum because I had lots of business deals I was completing so I didn't have enough time to let the forum know of this problem and also after doing my research on the forum I found this is not the first time he scammed someone out of hard earned Money! Do Your RESEARCH! And Always use Escrow regardless of any urgency anyone is implying to you! If they seem to not have any patience move on most likely they are looking to scam you! if needed I can post my paypal transaction time and month and also all the bull crap excusing this person sent me month to month!
     
    liquidmedia, May 19, 2012 IP
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  2. iorgus

    iorgus Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Sorry to hear that, I explained you very good the situation but you are not an understable person. I am not a scammer, I am an old member here with very good intentions and ratings, please the other 90 members which gave me the positive ratings.

    The situation its this:

    You wanted to buy my site and after that you didnt responded me for a few days and I sold the site to another buyer.
    I transfered you another site for compensation, you agreed with this.

    End of story. Because you didnt responded me for a couple of days I decided to move on with the sale to another buyer.

    Thats dont mean I am a scammer.

    Be carrefully when you make this kind of acusations!

    You are already reported for bad rating.
     
    iorgus, May 19, 2012 IP
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    Cucumba123 Well-Known Member

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    Wait what? He paid you for a site but because he was unable to reply to you, you went ahead and sold it someone else? And then when he contacts you again, you don't refund him but send him a site he didn't mean to buy?
     
    Cucumba123, May 19, 2012 IP
  4. iorgus

    iorgus Well-Known Member

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    #4

    You didnt understand all story: I refunded the buyer and I got back the domain name and I sent other site just for compensation.
     
    iorgus, May 19, 2012 IP
  5. Cucumba123

    Cucumba123 Well-Known Member

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    This conflicts with what he said. He says he can provide us the proof of transaction and the script between you and him. And he clearly says you scammed him.
     
    Cucumba123, May 19, 2012 IP
  6. liquidmedia

    liquidmedia Active Member

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    This guy is nuts I wasn't able to write him over the weekend Sat and Sun he is selling crappy sites to multiple people and carrying over useless negotiations also he is currently asking me to give him a good itrader rating via PM then he will then transfer the site to me this is fucking nuts! I need the MODs to investigate this insanity, I'm here trying to save people from scammers and problems he cant even defend himself appropriately.

     
    liquidmedia, May 19, 2012 IP
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    warloky Peon

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    It's a scam really. When you paid the vendor and didn't get what he promised to sell you then he didn't fulfill his end of the contract. That's his first violation of the terms of your agreement. When he says you should settle your dispute with the payment processor (paypal) he's trying to throw you off balance with specious argumentation (second infraction). And when he promises you another thing for sale by way of "compensation" that's his third infraction. And it's because you didn't plan or intend to buy that alternative site either. You probably might not have agreed with the contract at all save for the original terms..
     
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    iorgus Well-Known Member

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    liquidmedia its already reported for false rating!
     
    iorgus, May 22, 2012 IP
  9. liquidmedia

    liquidmedia Active Member

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    Hello DP look at the last PM ibogus sent me! Is this the way we conduct business here? I payed for my site now he resorted to holding it hostage for a positive itrader
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    I will send it to you as soon as you will post an positive iTrader.

    You can try, you have nothing to lose.
     
    liquidmedia, May 22, 2012 IP
  10. liquidmedia

    liquidmedia Active Member

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    Where are the mods?
     
    liquidmedia, May 22, 2012 IP
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    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #11
    You are one of about 150,000 people. How do you propose you get prioritized across 10 mods?

    N.
     
    Nigel Lew, May 23, 2012 IP
  12. liquidmedia

    liquidmedia Active Member

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    Not sure but geez I didn't know its that bad here I guess soon I will have to be taking my business elsewhere somewhere much more secure with less scamming of peoples hard earned money.

     
    liquidmedia, May 23, 2012 IP
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    iorgus Well-Known Member

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    #13
    You are the most terrible buyer I have ever met!

    I clearly explained you all situation and I gave an extra site just for compensation, I am not a scammer!

    I sold that site to another buyer BECAUSE you didnt responded to my messages!

    I refunded that buyer just to keep my first word for you and I gave you another sport site as compensation so two sites for the same price!


    So where its the scam here because I cant see it!

    I am making business here from many years but you are the most terrible buyer! All my buyers was satisfied and I have very good iTraders!





     
    iorgus, May 24, 2012 IP
  14. iorgus

    iorgus Well-Known Member

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    So, you dont say anything, you are out now like than you wanted to buy my site?

    You are already reported, I hope the mods will take care about you!

     
    iorgus, May 28, 2012 IP
  15. liquidmedia

    liquidmedia Active Member

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    You have not refunded my $320 BACK AS OF YET TO THIS DATE!! ALSO to this date I have never received the SITE I Payed FOR but some knock of junk site with autospun junk content that is sure to get a Adsense acct banned! your a blatant scammer!


    Your also prolonging this situation Your reputation is ruined here!


     
    liquidmedia, May 29, 2012 IP
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    liquidmedia Active Member

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    This messages are dating back from JAN 25th 2012 till NOW despite my insane schedule I tried my best to satisfy this without harm but this crazy dude is still around here selling bullshit ----> If you deal with him expect to be scammed! read on and enjoy this nonsense!

    Sorry, today I arrived home, tomorow I will make the transfer, send me please here your Godaddy account number and email.

    Iorgus

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    5 days ago you mentioned you will make the transfers in 2 days

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sorry for delay, I am travelling now, in 2 days I will be back and I will send you another sites as I promised you, and you will have also the sport reaction, total 3 sites fro this deal.

    Cheers,
    Iorgus


    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    I gave you enough time to satisfy this deal I think I will go ahead and notify the forum and also raise a paypal dispute if nothing is corrected for this matter within the next 24hrs.

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sure, I will sent you another site, and when you will have the initial domain you will have you 3 sites working for this amount. Sorry for this but I cant do anything until the domain will can be pushed.
    I am on travel now, in a few days I will send you the second site.

    Thanks for understanding.
    Iorgus

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    Yeah just be sure the website makes at least $320 a month revenue - if not just send the funds back. I already missed over $440 revenue
    I'm trying not to worry I need to make my money back you should understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Hi,

    The domain its still locked, cant be transfered at this time, here its the answer I recevied from Godaddy: the ICANN Policy: http://www.icann.org/en/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm - Point 3

    Need to wait until I will can send to you, I will prepare another site of mine to send to you for this delay and when the domain will be ready I will transfer it to you dont worry.

    Iorgus



    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    I'm sure the domain is ready to be pushed to my account now> we passed 15 days> if its not ready just send the money back to my paypal, I been patient enough.


    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sorry for delay, I was out during the weekend, the domain its still in panding transfer, the people from Godaddy told me this long period its usual and this week will be done, I will let you know as soon as I will have any news.

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sure, I didnt received the response yer, as soon as I will have it I will let you know.

    QUOTE=liquidmedia]Since you sent the update to godaddy let me know what they say because this is ridiculously
    taking way too long.


    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    They dont have support for my language, I am from Europe, my native language its romanian, its a latin language.

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    what language?

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    I know but I am not a best english speacker

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    Its best to call godaddy.

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    I sent an update to Godaddy today and I will let you know, dont worry, I will push it as soon as I will received it in my acccount.

    Iorgus

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    Thats what Im saying its past 15 days already

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Please wait a few days more, this delay its from ICANN policy, I will send you the domain dont worry.

    Thanks,
    Iorgus

    Dude where is my update from godaddy?

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    I think it has been enough time if they cant allow you to transfer this site your just gonna have to send my money back so I can move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    The website must be ready for transfer by now! also how come the content hasnt been updated since Jan 25th?
    Not yet, I hope tomorow will be ready. The problem with the content its because now the site its frozed and the autoaupdating system its blocked until I will have the site back in my account I will can setup the plugin again
     
    liquidmedia, Jun 5, 2012 IP
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    liquidmedia Active Member

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    Re: transfer

    I will send it to you as soon as you will post an positive iTrader.
    You can try, you have nothing to lose.



    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    If its prepared make the transfer so I can repair your itrader


    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    I have the domain prepared, let me know if you will repair the iTrader, will not cost you anything, after that you still can take revange at me




    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    What the hell did you sell me????????? What the hell did I receive Nothing!!!!!! So How in the hell you are a good seller?????

    The only way im placing that on your iTrader is if you transfer the domain!! you already been a problem for me for months I'm not doing you any
    favors so go ahead and make the transfer then you'll get your positive itrader!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sorry, eanglish its not my native language.

    Let me an positive iTrafer with this text:

    "Sorry for the bad rating below, I confirm Iorgus its a fair seller and a nice person"


    And I will complete the transfer for you,

    Iorgus


    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    Please correct your grammar I don't have any clue what your saying! Make the transfer then I fix my post! If not my post will stay! If you care about your reputation here you will make the transfer! I'm getting tired of going back and forth with you! You need to live up to your bargain and stop trying to get over!!! Next I will notify paypal if anything isn't done within the next few minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sorry, you already made multiple posts spreading I am a scammer.

    If you will leave the iTrader Iw ill push the domain and I help you with site transfer.

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    No I don't think you understand YOU first TRANSFER the DOMAIN then I WILL fix YOUR ITRADER if NOT this will STAY there!

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Sure, I just need to see my iTrader repaired. You cant erase the negative so
    You will let me another iTrader, a positive one where you will stat this:

    "Sorry for the bad rating below, I confirm Iorgus its a fair seller and a nice person"

    If I will see this I will transfer the domain to you.

    Thanks,
    Iorgus






    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    I gave you a warning already months ago you ignored the warning FIRST you complete your JOB and TRANSFER what I paid for (SPORTREACTION.COM) THEN I will go BACK and REPAIR your RATING! If not I will Leave The Rating! my account at Godaddy is 5213317 and email is xxxxxx@ gmail.com


    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    I told you the problem, if you checked the ICANN policy a domain name its blocked for transfers for a limited period.
    I already sent the files for the first time, I gave you compensation and I will give the domain too. I am not a scammer, you check my other transaction here.

    Because you lait with your answer at the first time I sold the site to another person but he agreed to send me back the domain and I refunded the monet to him just because you already sent me the money without my acceptance.

    Let me know if you still want the domain name.

    But first I will need you repair the bad rating here.

    Let me know,
    Iorgus

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    Dude its been almost half a year whats your problem??

    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Was not neccesary to gave me a bad rating, you could waited for my repsonse and today the site could be yours.

    Let me know how to proceed.

    Iorgus

    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    You said almost ready almost 1 month ago! that site must be ready for transfer today!


    Quote Originally Posted by iorgus
    Quote Originally Posted by liquidmedia
    You still selling sites here where is my domain transfer????? Send my $320 to paypal xxxxxx@ gmail.com
    Hi, the domain its almost ready for transfer but if you want a refund please open a Paypal dispute for the amount because my Paypal account its limited at this time and I cant make payments, just refunds,
    thanks.
     
    liquidmedia, Jun 5, 2012 IP
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    r3dt@rget Notable Member

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    #18
    From what I understand, here is the situation:

    1. liquidmedia buys a website from iorgus for $320 and pays via PayPal
    2. iorgus cannot wait more than 3 days to transfer the site, so iorgus sells the same website to another member but keeps the $320
    3. liquidmedia responds and iorgus offers another website. Clearly from the PM's liquidmedia wants the original website or a refund

    If this is true, then iorgus you have scammed liquidmedia even if you didn't have bad intentions. When liquidmedia sent you $320 he satisfied his end of the contract. You are therefore required to transfer the site and domain to him, NO MATTER how long it takes him to respond. You had no right to sell it to someone else, even if you planned to refund liquidmedia.

    Oh and BTW, iorgus, your last PM where you said your paypal account is limited to only refunds, that is perfect because he wants a refund!!! So whats the issue here? Give him his money back.
     
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  19. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #19
    That seems a pretty good summary of events.

    However mods don't get involved in deals gone bad. There are appropriate real world agencies that can help. The mods are not qualified, nor have the jurisdiction, to investigate these complaints thoroughly.
    Thats blackmail
     
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  20. cecepkok

    cecepkok Greenhorn

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    #20
    a good discussion. I like this tread
     
    cecepkok, Jun 6, 2012 IP