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Review of scammer on DP (xInd)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by chihpih, Aug 29, 2012.

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    I am posting a new thread because the original 2 threads are closed.

    Original thread that I contacted him from - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2512247

    Look how the price is set to $175/hour ^^^

    Auction that he setup - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2523208


    I spoke to him prior to hiring him and asked him why his price was so low. He explained to me that he needed extra jobs to pay his bills and that this is his introductory price. After he would prove himself to be reliable he would charge higher rates.

    He told me that he wanted to test out "Instant Pay" feature on DP and setup a different sales thread, outside of his original post. In his new sales auction thread he tried to set the price to be $175/hour instead of $175/month. When I noticed that I informed him and assured me that it was not hourly price and price for 40 hours. I refused to bid on it since my bid would be my acceptance to honor the auction terms and $175/hour is not something I want to agree to. Seeing that I would not bid on $175/hour auction he changed the auction terms to $4.50/hour and I bid on it to satisfy his requests with testing out "Instant Pay" option. After receiving payment he insisted on receiving full payment upfront and I told him I was willing to pay 50% upfront and 50% upon completion of the work.

    Project involved 2 stages - in the first stage he would create 10+ categories and add 100 products. The second stage of the product would require him to manually modify text description of each product. All the categories to add were given to him at the start of the project and examples of the products were provided as well.

    Upon receiving 50% payment he instantly informed me that he is busy with other projects and he needs to get them out of the way first. He informed me that 40 hours he agreed to work for $175/month would be spread over 30 days. Few days after receiving payment he emailed me and asked for instructions on how to use the script that powered my website. I explained to him that adding categories / products was self explanatory. To add a category you would click on Categories - Add Categories and to add products you would click on Products - Find Products - Search by keyword and when results would be displayed you would click on the "+" button to add them.

    Over the course of first 2 weeks I asked him several times about his progress and received answers that "his internet was down", "his paypal was hacked" and that he was working on other sites. After some time he finally was able to work on the site and added a few test categories and test products (not those that were given to him). He learned that one of the features of the script that powered the site would allow an admin to automatically import products from Amazon. He wanted to use that feature as well as use The Best Spinner instead of manually modifying all the descriptions. He was hired to manually add quality products and manually modify them but instead he suggested we do it automatically. I was not interested in that and told him that I cannot purchase any additional software (TBS) for him before he does any kind of work for me. He argued with me that I dont know anything and that he is a big expert. At 2 week mark I asked him for status again as I saw there was no progress and he became angry and started blaming me for not paying him upfront, for working for me for such low rate and that I did not buy him tools needed to complete this job. He continued to bad mouth me and even threatened to "kick my ass". All of this because I saw no progress in work being done and asked for status report. He continued to refuse to provide any kind of report of what work he completed so far. He told me that 30 days are not up and he still has 2 weeks to complete the work. After 2 weeks I contacted him again since I still saw no progress and initially his excuses were that he is working on 5 other sites and does not know when he will be available to complete my work. Later on his story changed that he did 50% of the work and that he will not be doing anything going forward.

    To summarize he was hired to do data entry & text modification. He refused to do data entry until additional software was purchased for him. The original scope of the project was to do all manual work but apparently according to him I am the bad guy for only paying 50% upfront and not purchasing software for a person that didnt even bother doing simple data entry.

    This person is a thief and did not deliver any work. Stay away! I paid money but did not get any measurable work done. I paid him twice, once for the hourly auction that he setup as well as 2nd payment which was 50% of monthly payment ($175).
     
    chihpih, Aug 29, 2012 IP
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    Cucumba123 Well-Known Member

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    Boot the scammer! Start first by filing a PayPal dispute on all transactions then leave him negative itraders. You should've been aware of his itrader, he has very few positive feedback in the past 12 months, he even has negative ones. I think that account had changed ownership.
     
    Cucumba123, Aug 29, 2012 IP
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    Irfi0009 Banned

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    your site is very nice and great job
     
    Irfi0009, Aug 29, 2012 IP
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    I already started Paypal dispute. I spoke to him about his negative Itrader and he said it wasnt his fault. This was one of the reasons why I did not want to pay him everything upfront.

    His whole reasoning behind not doing the work is the fact that I did not buy The Best Spinner so that it would be easier for him to complete phase 2 of the project. What good would TBS do if no categories / products are added? I even offered to buy it for him, only after he proves himself by completing some work. After 30+ days he never entered categories / products that were given to him. Only excuses, curses and threats of violence.
     
    chihpih, Aug 29, 2012 IP
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    xInd Notable Member

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    DO NOT WORK FOR THIS GUY!!!

    LMAO. Is this guy for real!?! After he talked me into allowing him to purchase an expired, closed special offer... This guy REFUSED to pay what we agreed on, I never received the money, only half of it which couldn't pay for the membership in question. The deal was SLAVE LABOR PRICES PAID IN ADVANCE, so that I could renew a yearly memberhsip so that I would be able to make more money with my time, therefore could afford to give him a chunk. That never happened. This guy wanted me to use a script for making an amazon store. There was NO documentation, NO instructions, NO videos, NO how to, and the only thing available was for me to request he login to his account and copy and paste the odd "tool tip". He waste 2 hours of my time going on about the Instant pay and the auction settings, made me edit my auction 5 times before he would finalize the deal, and kept going on about crazy stuff like you see above. The DP instant pay feature is in development, I wanted to try it out since I haven't really used it yet. It doesn't work everywhere and has some issues for sellers, go look in the digital point and follow my conversations with Shawn there, it's pretty clear. I even linked him to this and he still didn't get it, and went on about the buy now price vs hourly rate price being the dame field in the forum and behaving differently in different sections of the forum. If you want to use the instant pay feature in that section, it only works for the BIN price, which is labelled as Hourly Rate in the services section. Everyone else seems to be able to understand the fields, but since I use them, this guy thinks that makes me a scammer.

    For the record, I agreed to build websites with this guy. I never agreed to "data entry" and would never take on any project that was simply data entry, that's what newbs are for. This guy refused to purchase the licenses for HIS SOFTWARE!!! I'm the scammer? He tried to go on and on about me wanting to buy him presents, which made no sense at all... I wanted him to pay for the things which the creators of the script he wanted me to use BUILT IT FOR! Nope, that was too much to ask, and him spending his money on his own projects, on licenses he is supposed to own for it, to him translates as to him giving me more money. I'm sorry, but paying for a TBS license for YOUR WEBSITES, is IN NO WAY PAYING ME ANYTHING.

    MY PAYPAL HAS NEVER BEEN HACKED, NOR HAVE I EVER CLAIMED THAT. Yes, I did spend some time with PAYPAL CORPORATE and their FRAUD INVESTIGATORS TO HELP THEM WITH A CASE, they might even send me a thank you letter. I will be sure to speak to the business services managers about this case!

    I listened to a half dozen stories from this guy, about a handful of other people he apparently hired to do the EXACT SAME THING HE WANTED ME TO DO. They all sucked and couldn't get the job done worth crap, or were taking FOREVER. Gee, funny how everyone else that's done this job he's made the same complaints about, and not one person has been able to make him happy.... Interesting...


    "Kick your ass" ROFLMMFAO!!! -- What words did you twist and manipulate into meaning a thread on your health and safety??? Really, I want to know, that's HILARIOUS that you think that. With all the spouting off on Skype you were doing, I blocked you so that I wouldn't have to listen to your anger anymore. Attitudes are contagious and yours is definitely not worth catching.

    So, a Scammer is somebody who perpetuates that. Now, I have records that show I have spent 20 (TWENTY) HOURS of my time, and now have a paypal chargeback for a total of about $90. Minimum wage where I live is $8.50 per hour and I can walk into any fast food place, gas station, etc and walk out with a job (nevermind real jobs where my training, education and years of experience is valued) no problem any day. So if i wasted 20 hours with them I would make $170 minus deductions. I haven't worked for minimum wage in 10 years, and could easily get $20+ an hour for a normal job. Please explain to me, how wasting 20 hours on $90 I don't even get to keep is swindling a quick profit. This guy actually meets the definition of scammer, he has scammed m out of 20 hours of my time, and got free work done on his website... I even taught him how to use the script better, told him things he didn't know about the script and how to use it. He thanked me. Of course he did, he was ripping me off for free work on his website and training lessons on developing them.

    He keeps saying their's no measurable work done.. When actually there are 2 physical human beings here that have logged in, added and edited products and categories the mundane way without the TBS license, hand spinning multiple pages of content. I don't know if you know much about rewriting content, but when there are 3 different description fields for each product which can even be full HTML pages long for each item, it takes a while to rewrite it all. Then there's all his vague instructions of just get all kinds of adult products, things grown ups would buy. Well, I'm an adult, a parent with kids, so not some punk just got there adult. I know many adults. Lots of them like to collect die cast marvel figures. He specifically made me make a category for die cast figurines. Then, he tells me that the 20 or so die cast figurines in the store, are no good that's garbage baby toys, because the importer also grabbed a couple disney die cast figurines which I hadn't got to removing yet.

    Cucumba123 - You should do your homework before you open your mouth spouting off. My only negative iTraders are from idiots like this, and WHOA, a whole 3 of them in the 5 years or so I've been using this forum and hundreds of transactions I've completed. People I've helped get started online, people who still continue to thank me for all my help. Nobody has ever had access to my account, and there is no way in hell I would violate DP ToS on purpose and do something like try to sell my account. Why is there little to no iTrader in the last year? Because This place is full of trolls and idiots, so us real workers who do real business online and actually help people, we tend to find other places to do our business, which are more professional, and come with less risk, headaches and bullcrap that these paranoid psychos and the real true, fraudsters on here (which I help to hunt down and work with Paypal and the authorities on). That's ok, since you're sticking your nose in other people's business (how can you avoid it when childish people like Dennis air all their dirty laundry out for everyone to see while they urinate on it and try to blame the other guy..) I'm sure it will happen to you, where you wake up some day after going above and beyond to help somebody, and then you've got a negative iTrader there as a thank you.


    I explained to this guy 12 times, that I had done 20 hours of work, and that if he wasn't paying (since the agreement was that it was all paid in advance to cover my wpmudev membership) I wasn't doing anything else until my other PAYING projects were taken care of, and that I would look at helping him further down the road. He then kept pestering me for Status updates. I kept telling him NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING. When I'm done this work, and or WHEN YOU PAY YOUR BILL, then I can go back to helping him, at slave labor rates. If I was to count all the wasted time on repeating myself, and dealing with his emails and SKype messages, I would probably have to add another 10 hours in!

    Well, I thank you Dennis, you have re-affirmed to me that you are just plain psycho so I am very glad I didn't continue working with you and lose any more of my valuable time. Keep your money, have fun with it. You stole it and you're the one who has to live with the karma. To think I was seriously going to offer out of the kindness of my heart, to only bill you for half of the time spent and provide you with a partial refund, and a little more help getting your crappy sites flogging somebody else's crap the same as everywhere else... Glad you saved me that pleasure.
     
    xInd, Aug 29, 2012 IP
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    [7/26/2012 7:39:50 PM] Mike Slemko: want to split a license on the best spinner?
    [7/26/2012 7:39:55 PM] pixelator: he offered a refund but so far behind deadline
    [7/26/2012 7:40:05 PM] Mike Slemko: that way we can deploy the sites quickly, also faster marketing for them afterwards...
    [7/26/2012 7:40:11 PM] Mike Slemko: and then go through manually afterwards.
    [7/26/2012 7:40:25 PM] Mike Slemko: usually you can set the standards pretty high on the spinner, and do adjustments on the fly.. I can with my tools anyways
    [7/26/2012 7:40:30 PM] pixelator: ill buy it after some track record
    [7/26/2012 7:41:50 PM] Mike Slemko: well if i find a better coupon ill just get it. I will probably need it for another project I started today
    [7/26/2012 7:42:20 PM] pixelator: i would buy it 100% but just not at this point
    [7/26/2012 7:42:55 PM] Mike Slemko: would you consider re-imbursing me less than half after I put it in place?
    [7/26/2012 7:43:48 PM] Mike Slemko: like say $20?
    [7/26/2012 7:44:12 PM] Mike Slemko: then you can have free use of my license for the year
    [7/26/2012 7:44:12 PM] pixelator: in my own terms if you establish track record of a few sites, it woudl only be reasonable for me to pay $20
    [7/26/2012 7:44:42 PM] Mike Slemko: well I'm talking about after I pay the full price for it, and plug in and give you the access info
    [7/26/2012 7:44:44 PM] pixelator: i just dont make any kind of commitments with vendors this early on
    [7/26/2012 7:45:12 PM] Mike Slemko: :confused:
    [7/26/2012 7:45:14 PM] Mike Slemko: ok then....
    [7/26/2012 7:45:51 PM] Mike Slemko: you've delivered half what was promised, then don't even want to contribute to costs essential or useful for your sites....
    [7/26/2012 7:46:02 PM] Mike Slemko: but it's fine. I'll be at my workstation soon and working on your site again
    [7/26/2012 7:46:16 PM] Mike Slemko: I will send you a quick report when I'm done for the day
    [7/26/2012 7:46:42 PM] pixelator: i promised you a best spinner account?
    [7/26/2012 7:46:59 PM] pixelator: what half didnt i deliver?
    [7/26/2012 7:47:00 PM] Mike Slemko: thought my offering to pay for the license and collect later was nice, seems to have been taken in a different manner.
    [7/26/2012 7:47:18 PM] Mike Slemko: you agreed to prepayment for the month, which was the point and purpose of my expired thread I re-opened for you.
    [7/26/2012 7:47:47 PM] pixelator: didnt i agree to $20 you asked for?
    [7/26/2012 7:48:35 PM] Mike Slemko: so then such things like me just covering the cost of the best spinner because it will help this project and I can use it on others, is an easy choice with $147 to work with for the month.... like I said the money was to pay for things like that, memberships and domains.... so to take more than half of it for something I don't need for myself for a few weeks seems a bad choice
    [7/26/2012 7:48:48 PM] Mike Slemko: so I will continue without it unless something else inspires me to do otherwise
    [7/26/2012 7:49:30 PM] Mike Slemko: nothing to worry about, I didn't mind accepting 50/50 from you in the payment schedule, just odd that it turned out that way given the circumstances.
    [7/26/2012 7:49:33 PM] Mike Slemko: ttys
    [7/26/2012 7:51:02 PM] pixelator: i just prepaid you 50%
    [7/26/2012 7:51:10 PM] pixelator: havent received any new work since
    [7/26/2012 7:51:25 PM] pixelator: and you're trying to imply i did you wrong
    [7/26/2012 7:51:49 PM] pixelator: prove to me you're a good vendor and i'll pay software costs
    [7/26/2012 7:51:55 PM] pixelator: simple as that
    [7/26/2012 7:53:36 PM] pixelator: you said you would do 40 hours and already received payment for 20


    [8/4/2012 2:41:16 PM] pixelator: i asked you to add categories / products
    [8/4/2012 2:41:19 PM] Mike Slemko: yes
    [8/4/2012 2:41:20 PM] pixelator: its self explanatory how to do
    [8/4/2012 2:41:23 PM] Mike Slemko: and I've added over 100 products
    [8/4/2012 2:41:26 PM] Mike Slemko: and most of the categories
    [8/4/2012 2:41:33 PM] Mike Slemko: you wanted all the descriptions edited to be unique content
    [8/4/2012 2:41:37 PM] Mike Slemko: THAT IS A LOT OF WRITINGT
    [8/4/2012 2:41:45 PM] Mike Slemko: not 1 minute per product
    [8/4/2012 2:41:53 PM] Mike Slemko: it's about 5-20 minutes per product
    [8/4/2012 2:42:03 PM] Mike Slemko: so 10,000 minutes to do it properly
    [8/4/2012 2:42:14 PM] pixelator: i never asked you to find out how to auto populate and / or any other functions
    [8/4/2012 2:42:21 PM] Mike Slemko: 160 hours
    [8/4/2012 2:42:37 PM] Mike Slemko: is a reasonable estimate for the product details
    [8/4/2012 2:42:40 PM] Mike Slemko: for 100 products
    [8/4/2012 2:42:54 PM] Mike Slemko: granted as I said, some of them or short and we might get luck as we go through
    [8/4/2012 2:43:04 PM] Mike Slemko: but I've had to deal with products with long descriptions
    [8/4/2012 2:43:28 PM] Mike Slemko: and I told you, I had to put this on the backburner because I NEED TO BE PAID FOR MY TIME
    [8/4/2012 2:43:30 PM] Mike Slemko: I need to pay bills
    [8/4/2012 2:43:41 PM] Mike Slemko: to spend all of my time for a week to get another $90 is not going to pay my bills
    [8/4/2012 2:43:47 PM] Mike Slemko: so I have been doing other work to SURVIVE
    [8/4/2012 2:44:02 PM] pixelator: i never questiioned you doing other work
    [8/4/2012 2:44:02 PM] Mike Slemko: and now I can continue busting my balls for you, in hopes that it leads to something better
    [8/4/2012 2:44:17 PM] pixelator: you said it will take time for you to complete it and i let you work on it independently
    [8/4/2012 2:44:19 PM] Mike Slemko: then why the 3rd degree???
    [8/4/2012 2:44:38 PM] Mike Slemko: there is nothing strange or new here, I'm telling you the same information I've already told you
    [8/4/2012 2:44:57 PM] pixelator: i just want to know what has been done so far, you told me you had internet problems and that you had to work on other projects
    [8/4/2012 2:45:15 PM] pixelator: i didnt ask you for status all of this week
    [8/4/2012 2:45:39 PM] pixelator: since you said you were working on other stuff
    [8/4/2012 2:46:14 PM] Mike Slemko: and as I said, this weekend I will be able to continue, but you're going on about the categories not being complete
    [8/4/2012 2:46:18 PM] Mike Slemko: I'm well aware they aren't complete.
    [8/4/2012 2:46:28 PM] Mike Slemko: you're saying that like it means I've done nothing
    [8/4/2012 2:47:18 PM] Mike Slemko: I've done nothing for several days now, because I could not afford to work on this, my time is much more valuable than you seem to think, and you disagree with my ways of doing things which are much more efficient, then complain about how long it's taking me. it's a frustrating conundrum
    [8/4/2012 2:47:40 PM] Mike Slemko: if you had paid me properly, I would have just bought myself a TBS license and the site would have already been live
    [8/4/2012 2:48:04 PM] Mike Slemko: at worst there would be some more proof reading and minor edits in content here and there
    [8/4/2012 2:48:16 PM] Mike Slemko: but it would be active, live and unique content
    [8/4/2012 2:48:26 PM] pixelator: i never complained that it was taking too long
    [8/4/2012 2:48:34 PM] pixelator: you told me it would take 30 days
    [8/4/2012 2:49:01 PM] pixelator: just want to know what has been done since i didnt see categories that i provided to you from beginning added
    [8/4/2012 2:49:51 PM] pixelator: also i am looking at categories and you have 39 products in die cast
    [8/4/2012 2:49:57 PM] pixelator: 9 in figures
    [8/4/2012 2:50:00 PM] pixelator: 2 in rc
    [8/4/2012 2:50:03 PM] pixelator: 1 cars
    [8/4/2012 2:50:05 PM] Mike Slemko: you keep saying you've seen zero results
    [8/4/2012 2:50:08 PM] pixelator: 1 helicopters
    [8/4/2012 2:50:11 PM] Mike Slemko: there is a pile of work done
    [8/4/2012 2:50:11 PM] pixelator: 2 games
    [8/4/2012 2:50:44 PM] Mike Slemko: the categories you provided are in there, except maybe a couple, and you made it rather vague with add some more that fit. So I needed to get the PRODUCTS FIRST then do the categories
    [8/4/2012 2:51:24 PM] Mike Slemko: once the products are edited, they are added to the appropriate category
    [8/4/2012 2:51:36 PM] Mike Slemko: if there isn't a category made for them yet, then you get yourr new categories you are after
    [8/4/2012 2:51:47 PM] Mike Slemko: I don't understand your confusion, it's pretty simple here.
    [8/4/2012 2:51:52 PM] Mike Slemko: it just takes lots of time
    [8/4/2012 2:51:55 PM] pixelator: ok, well thats the reaosn why i am asking for status
    [8/4/2012 2:52:07 PM] pixelator: i see some categories and some products
    [8/4/2012 2:52:24 PM] Mike Slemko: and I'm giving it to you, but you keep telling me I'm not doing my work which is very frustrating, when I am doing more than I signed up for, and getting paid penuts for my time.
    [8/4/2012 2:53:00 PM] Mike Slemko: as far as I know, it sounds like you're still expecting me to make a handful of these sites for you just for me to get another $90
    [8/4/2012 2:53:20 PM] pixelator: no
    [8/4/2012 2:53:28 PM] Mike Slemko: well that's a relief
    [8/4/2012 2:54:03 PM] Mike Slemko: and I do apologize, I am RIGHT F'N choked about something else right now
    [8/4/2012 2:54:16 PM] Mike Slemko: helping paypal track down a scammer, and getting my account limited
    [8/4/2012 2:54:33 PM] Mike Slemko: right hand isn't talking to the left
    [8/4/2012 2:54:58 PM] Mike Slemko: do you know that anyone can just put your paypal email address onto their Ebay account and route all auction payments to you without your knowledge or permission?
    [8/4/2012 2:56:08 PM] pixelator: did not know that
    [8/4/2012 2:56:37 PM] Mike Slemko: yeah, pretty messed up.
    [8/4/2012 2:57:01 PM] Mike Slemko: and Paypal owns Ebay, like wtf
    [8/4/2012 2:57:09 PM] pixelator: paypal should be able to straighten it out for you since you didnt sell the items
    [8/4/2012 2:57:14 PM] Mike Slemko: yeah they are
    [8/4/2012 2:57:15 PM] pixelator: its the other way around - ebay owns paypal
    [8/4/2012 2:57:22 PM] Mike Slemko: but I'm the one that has to suffer with limited account access
    [8/4/2012 2:57:30 PM] Mike Slemko: just had it fixed yesterday and woke up to it again today
    [8/4/2012 2:57:38 PM] Mike Slemko: oh yeah right, ebay owns paypal lol
    [8/4/2012 2:57:52 PM] pixelator: i hate paypal
    [8/4/2012 2:58:34 PM] Mike Slemko: so I can't send or receive payments while they do their review, or access the money I have in there which is needed for work and bills. Should be fixed again this afternoon... but yeah for the first time, I too, am starting to dislike paypal. Been using them with no problems for over 10 years....
    [8/4/2012 2:58:44 PM] Mike Slemko: anyways..... It's hard to tell how long it's going to take to finish this site, because it all depends on what is inside each product. Some of them have just a bit of info and only takes about 5 minutes to handle the meta tags and 3 descriptions, category assignment etc. Some of them however, are half a novel and can take 20 minutes for 1 product. I don't want to go skipping good products because it's more work...
    [8/4/2012 2:59:15 PM] Mike Slemko: I'd like to say I'll have it done this weekend, but I don't want to set us up for dissapointment either
    [8/4/2012 2:59:22 PM] Mike Slemko: brb
    [8/4/2012 3:00:40 PM] pixelator: ok, when you reach any kind of new milestone please send me a report of what has been accomplished so far and time spent on it
    [8/4/2012 3:00:54 PM] pixelator: i am not expecting you to work beyond hours you promised to do at your introductory rate
    [8/4/2012 3:02:35 PM] pixelator: i know you added some products just as a test. you said you did over 10
    [8/4/2012 3:00:40 PM] pixelator: ok, when you reach any kind of new milestone please send me a report of what has been accomplished so far and time spent on it
    [8/4/2012 3:00:54 PM] pixelator: i am not expecting you to work beyond hours you promised to do at your introductory rate
    [8/4/2012 3:02:35 PM] pixelator: i know you added some products just as a test. you said you did over 100 but i only count 54 with 39 of them being figurines
    [8/4/2012 3:03:56 PM] pixelator: http://www.amazon.com/Chuggington-D...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00381A1KC
    [8/4/2012 3:04:30 PM] pixelator: http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Pixar-...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B005IZNM0W
    [8/4/2012 3:05:14 PM] pixelator: http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Curv...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00381A1JS
    [8/4/2012 3:05:16 PM] Mike Slemko: really sorry I guess I was taking my paypal frustrations out at you by accident without realizing it. it doesn't matter that the project is more work than I/we first thought
    [8/4/2012 3:05:37 PM] Mike Slemko: yeah I removed lots of products that were cheap items etc
    [8/4/2012 3:05:54 PM] pixelator: look at the items you added, certainly dont look like adult toys to me :)
    [8/4/2012 3:05:56 PM] Mike Slemko: and started putting in higher ticket items
    [8/4/2012 3:06:16 PM] Mike Slemko: not done removing products yet
    [8/4/2012 3:06:21 PM] Mike Slemko: do that in conjunction with editing them
    [8/4/2012 3:06:24 PM] pixelator: hence my reason to asking for status, are these test products or what
    [8/4/2012 3:06:38 PM] Mike Slemko: next product on the list --> edit or delete --> continue
    [8/4/2012 3:06:49 PM] Mike Slemko: yeah lots of them still are
    [8/4/2012 3:07:09 PM] Mike Slemko: new products include gadgets in the hundreds of dollars
    [8/4/2012 3:07:37 PM] Mike Slemko: some "spy" gear
    [8/4/2012 3:07:39 PM] pixelator: ok
    [8/4/2012 3:07:40 PM] Mike Slemko: etc
    [8/4/2012 3:08:13 PM] Mike Slemko: I'll probaby leave figurines etc in there that are lower priced to ensure there is something for the low budget buyers, provided they are not Disney toys for kids etc.
    [8/4/2012 3:08:41 PM] Mike Slemko: like marvel die cast action figures are often collected by adults, so I'd probably leave some things like that
    [8/4/2012 3:08:46 PM] Mike Slemko: or is that not what you're after?
    [8/4/2012 3:09:11 PM] pixelator: i dont mind as long as its something adults would buy
    [8/4/2012 3:09:25 PM] pixelator: but not disney / toys for kids like i showed you examples of
    [8/4/2012 3:09:42 PM] Mike Slemko: yeah that's what I thought. The Disney stuff came in from my first test run on auto-adding products which led me to finding all the filter options to remove such things.
    [8/4/2012 3:09:53 PM] Mike Slemko: like you can run it with -Disney etc so only the right stuff comes in
    [8/4/2012 3:10:15 PM] Mike Slemko: but yeah that's just leftover from my first run through figuring out the whole system there
    [8/4/2012 3:10:17 PM] Mike Slemko: sorry
    [8/4/2012 3:11:47 PM] Mike Slemko: Today I will make sure all of those products are out of there, and some more categories are setup, at the very least
    [8/4/2012 3:13:03 PM] pixelator: ok

    [8/8/2012 6:16:37 PM] pixelator: hello, i checked on the site and still see the same number of products per category as when i spoke to you on saturday. what exactly has been done since our last conversation?
    [8/8/2012 7:27:15 PM] Mike Slemko: Nothing has been done, was hired for a $500 marketing contract so ended up up till 6:30 am working through the night
    [8/8/2012 7:27:38 PM] Mike Slemko: then groceries, the bank, and errands in town yesterday and today
    [8/8/2012 7:27:56 PM] Mike Slemko: finally got everything all caught up and dealt with offline
    [8/8/2012 7:28:01 PM] Mike Slemko: sorry man
    [8/8/2012 7:28:04 PM] pixelator: so at 2+ point mark still not progress on my project
    [8/8/2012 7:28:05 PM] Mike Slemko: just had to do what I had to do
    [8/8/2012 7:28:32 PM] pixelator: just checking, at least you are giving me a status report where i see a deliverable
    [8/8/2012 7:28:41 PM] Mike Slemko: well, can't live off $90. The auction/thread you made our deal with was based on overall time over 30 days
    [8/8/2012 7:29:01 PM] Mike Slemko: yeah I would have much preferred to show you faster results, but it is what it is.
    [8/8/2012 7:29:16 PM] pixelator: i know it was over 30 days, and i confirmed it before, but at 1/2 point of 30 days, i wanted to see some progress
    [8/8/2012 7:29:33 PM] Mike Slemko: I'll still get your site done though, and be happy to work you into the balance properly so that I can help you on an ongoing basis, and move things further forward into more productive areas than just data entry grunt work help
    [8/8/2012 7:30:01 PM] Mike Slemko: well I can't live off $90 man, my time is subject to availability
    [8/8/2012 7:30:11 PM] Mike Slemko: and you also refused all of my suggestions to improve efficiency
    [8/8/2012 7:30:25 PM] Mike Slemko: so it's been your choice as well
    [8/8/2012 7:31:17 PM] Mike Slemko: sounds like I might have a TBS license anytime here anyways so that will mean we can just setup any number of sites with products fast, then have actual grunts, who should be doing grunt work, proof reading all the content
    [8/8/2012 7:31:18 PM] Mike Slemko: and editing
    [8/8/2012 7:31:35 PM] pixelator: you didnt even start with categories
    [8/8/2012 7:31:52 PM] pixelator: how can we talk about improving efficiencies by spending more money on trial worker
    [8/8/2012 7:32:05 PM] pixelator: i want to see results with 1 site first
    [8/8/2012 7:32:15 PM] pixelator: so far after 2 weeks, its nothing
    [8/8/2012 7:32:43 PM] pixelator: if i had TBS you would still be busy with your own projects
    [8/8/2012 7:32:58 PM] pixelator: you didnt enter any categories i provided to you or enter any products other than test products
    [8/8/2012 7:33:09 PM] Mike Slemko: lol. whatever man. you need to find some balance with your day job and take a chill pill
    [8/8/2012 7:33:33 PM] Mike Slemko: I have a lot more experience, success and knowledge about this stuff than you do, it becomes more apparant every time we talk
    [8/8/2012 7:33:41 PM] Mike Slemko: I'm trying to help you, but you're shooting yourself in the foot.
    [8/8/2012 7:33:45 PM] Mike Slemko: so I Will watch
    [8/8/2012 7:33:47 PM] Mike Slemko: and be here to help
    [8/8/2012 7:33:49 PM] pixelator: i hired you to do simple task
    [8/8/2012 7:33:50 PM] Mike Slemko: and honor my committment.
    [8/8/2012 7:33:52 PM] pixelator: add prodcuts
    [8/8/2012 7:33:58 PM] pixelator: modify descriptions
    [8/8/2012 7:34:05 PM] pixelator: i dont need you to teach me about spinning
    [8/8/2012 7:34:11 PM] Mike Slemko: LOL
    [8/8/2012 7:34:14 PM] pixelator: you have not produced any work
    [8/8/2012 7:34:18 PM] Mike Slemko: I'm not offering lessons
    [8/8/2012 7:34:22 PM] pixelator: tell me what did you do in 2 weeks?
    [8/8/2012 7:34:38 PM] pixelator: i asked you several times to show me a report of your tasks completed and time spnet
    [8/8/2012 7:34:41 PM] Mike Slemko: wasted many hours on your project as per what you provided
    [8/8/2012 7:34:51 PM] Mike Slemko: and lots of time in these useless conversations
    [8/8/2012 7:34:57 PM] pixelator: i provided you with categories to add
    [8/8/2012 7:34:59 PM] pixelator: on day 1
    [8/8/2012 7:35:00 PM] pixelator: you never entered them
    [8/8/2012 7:35:16 PM] pixelator: i gave you sample products, you never entered them
    [8/8/2012 7:35:30 PM] Mike Slemko: have a nice day. I'll talk to you another time when I haven't been working until 6:30am graveyard shift and up again for work at 10
    [8/8/2012 7:35:56 PM] Mike Slemko: I invite you to come over here face to face so I can lay it out to you and not get this bullshit from you
    [8/8/2012 7:36:20 PM] Mike Slemko: once your off your high horse, these conversations will go just fine
    [8/8/2012 7:36:31 PM] pixelator: i asked you for status report several times and all you do is make excuses
    [8/8/2012 7:36:43 PM] Mike Slemko: and clearly that's not happening until more of my time is used up and the rest of your little site is finished
    [8/8/2012 7:36:49 PM] pixelator: show me what you have done
    [8/8/2012 7:36:49 PM] Mike Slemko: take care. stop messaging me.
    [8/8/2012 7:37:30 PM] Mike Slemko: I will send you a report after further time has been spent, and will waste more time on being much more detailed to ensure there are no misunderstandings about how much extra time I am giving you.
    [8/8/2012 7:37:43 PM] Mike Slemko: and wasting due to your inhibitions

    I agree that he claimed he spent 20 hours doing work but could not produce any kind of report. If he spent 20 hours doing work for me how come only test categories and auto import of test products has been done? He admitted several times that he only added test categories.

    Here is a screenshot taken on 08/23 which shows the same test categories and products that you said were test categories products.

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    You auto imported a bunch of Disney toy cars which is not the type of products that I was looking for. I was looking for toys grownups purchase such as remote controlled cars, helicopters, boats, etc. Since this was reported to you did absolutely nothing. More then 3 weeks passed and still nothing.

    *EDIT* - Here is a screenshot from today which shows what kind of test products you added to the site. This site was selling toys for adults (grownups) and you added Disney toys.

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    Facts will confirm my story.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2012
    chihpih, Aug 29, 2012 IP