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The End Of vBulletin...

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by giorgioarmani, Jan 20, 2013.

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Is this the beginning of the end of vBulletin?

  1. Yes

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    50.0%
  2. No

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  1. giorgioarmani

    giorgioarmani Well-Known Member

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    #41
    A very interesting discussion and a curious thing I just noticed:

    Can we no longer add multiple quotes?
     
    giorgioarmani, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #42
    You can, but they don't (yet) span multiple pages... like you can hit Reply multiple times on the same page.
     
    digitalpoint, Jan 26, 2013 IP
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    #43
    what the DP use is a really an intesting thing, i think it called XenForo and i really like it ^_^

    but The VBulletin is and will always the best cause maybe in the first it's the most secure one of them

    and the most developed

    that doesn't mean that the security researcher will not find bugs but they always offer update

    and XenForo is not famous yet maybe in a few year and with that it will a traget for the attackers and researchers

    My Answer is nO
     
    Dz4Sec, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  4. giorgioarmani

    giorgioarmani Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Ah got it :)



    I see from the poll, most agree with you.


    Nevertheless, it is also clear from the poll and the discussion that XF is on the right track to something big.
     
    giorgioarmani, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  5. Devtard

    Devtard Notable Member

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    #45
    If Digitalpoint had revealed in 2011 that he would move to XenForo in the future I'd probably wouldn't have bought a vBulletin license (and might have bought XenForo instead). But now my forum users are used to vBulletin and moving elsewhere would kill the community. :(
     
    Devtard, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  6. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #46
    You shouldn't do anything based on what others do... do what works best for YOU. vBulletin is still a good product and I'm sure it's the best choice for many sites out there. Just depends on what you need to be honest.
     
    digitalpoint, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  7. Devtard

    Devtard Notable Member

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    #47
    Yeah, that's right, but I had no idea about forum platforms back then but I noticed that large sites used vBulletin so I have bought one too.
     
    Devtard, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  8. alfa1

    alfa1 Active Member

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    #48
    Unless they take it up to beta 40 or more, it will keep on being buggy. They are pushing out weekly releases with 120+ bug fixes and still bug count is only slowly going down some. At the current speed of bug fixing, they need another 26 weekly releases to arrive at a bug free release. And that's before its released in the wild and all hell breaks loose.
    Multi-quote has a learning curve in XF and is confusing and could be seen as broken. This is definitely a weak point. its best to right click on the reply button and then copy-paste all quotes into a single post like I have just done.
    Not perfect, but at least it works.
     
    alfa1, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  9. alfa1

    alfa1 Active Member

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    #49
    1. Reputation comments
    2. Negative reputation
    3. Multiquote
    4. Better profile privacy
    5. Friends
    6. Albums
    7. CKEditor
    8. PM folders
    9. Message Tracking
    10. I dislike that the quick reply editor opens below the post you are responding to.
    11. Not really a function that vb had, but compared to IPB: a notification that someone has posted while you were writing your response and an option to load those post(s). That is a vital function.
    12. See who is browsing a forum / thread.
    13. Subforum listings
    14. Unless I am missing something: blogs.
     
    alfa1, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  10. humtuma

    humtuma Notable Member

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    #50
    No , Vbulletin is not end. Vbulletin is old company and have a lot of experience where Xenforo is new. Nobody can take the position of fast reply. I have already use Xenforo in other websites. And all are having the same problem. "The connection has timed out" etc is one of those error. Some of the webmaster move to Xenforo due to forum spam. But they forgot to test the SMF which is free. This time only, SMF is there which can stop spam either user use the BHM.
     
    humtuma, Jan 26, 2013 IP
  11. Digital X

    Digital X Member

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    #51
    No, you don't. I can't count many times that on one of my niche sites, I've "sold" xenForo. As in, a few people have come to me to ask what forum software I use.

    So, when a big site transfers to a new software, and evangelize the software as the "king" of products... It makes or break the company or product in question. A big site like DP, chances are, this transfer spreads like a [viral] wildfire. Maybe it won't have a immediate effect, but in the long run, it's going to be real evident.

    Never mind that Internet Brands keep driving vBulletin down by releasing shoddy updates after shoddy updates... I mean, not even vB4 made them think "Okay, I think we need better quality software this time around." Then comes vB5 beta. Chances are, vB5 Gold will be the real "make or break" for the vBuletin brand.

    My point is, DP's transfer cannot be underestimated.
    A lot of brands have fallen even though that their brand is older than the other. Circuit City just closed it's doors, THQ just recently dissolved, and I'm sure I'm missing a lot.. but you get my point.

    The forum spam on xenForo can easily be solved by installing a plugin. I use xenUtilies, and I get next to no spam. I only have to remove a few spam sparingly. Not even once a week. Not even close.
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2013
    Digital X, Jan 27, 2013 IP
  12. Vamp1re

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    #52
    Yes as for me now end of VB
     
    Vamp1re, Jan 28, 2013 IP
  13. dimitarang

    dimitarang Well-Known Member

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    #53
    I like VB,we are all used to it.
     
    dimitarang, Jan 28, 2013 IP
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    #54
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  15. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #55
    digitalpoint, Jan 29, 2013 IP
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    Mickie D Active Member

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    #56
    I run a medium sized forum, nothing like DP lol.

    But after seeing DP move over, I am seriously considering it.

    Vbulletin has lost my confidence completely, they only care about new sales, and new members, they do not give a SH*T about members like myself that has been using them for over 10 years!!!!

    They send out updates that can bring fairly large sites to their knees, I have often mentioned this and its like I am just some annoying fly pestering them!

    It's a shame I have been using them for so long and only until VB4 have I really started to doubt there intentions! I think I was a little stupid to go to vbulletin 4 to be honet as VB3 outperforms VB4 for fun!!

    The only one thing for me is that DigitalPoint make there own code changes, they make custom scripts, and they have the abillity to overcome such a massive move... until I know its completely bomb proof I will hold on... but believe me it won't be long until I do move away from VB!
     
    Mickie D, Feb 2, 2013 IP
  17. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #57
    Have you seen vBulletin 5.0.0 (not beta)? THAT is the end of vBulletin.
     
    digitalpoint, Mar 15, 2013 IP
  18. GeeOne

    GeeOne Well-Known Member

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    #58
    The community like DP is moving to other software makes the difference to VB.

    I am wondering have they contacted DP on this?

    G!

     
    GeeOne, Mar 15, 2013 IP
  19. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #59
    No... Why would they do that?
     
    digitalpoint, Mar 15, 2013 IP
  20. Devtard

    Devtard Notable Member

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    But I am sure that it felt like a slap in the face when they found out. :D
     
    Devtard, Mar 15, 2013 IP