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User333 is a SCAMMER - Selling links on Faked PR7 - cabf.org

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by evershawn, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. User333

    User333 Banned

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    #41
    Bullshit doesn't mean fake right?
    That little friend of yours was saying crap about me, not only the site in particular. Claiming that I'm the one who made redirects to fake it when I bought it long time after it took place, and that nonsense - that you can pool PR backwords from higher PR site, such as if I would have PR0 site and will point redirect to Google and it will become PR10 site, which is clearly BS.
    You can have any opinion on the site, I careless, but when you stating something like this about someone you have to prove it. And his fail to do it.

    Also the PR7 is legit because it belonged to this site in the first place, other than that it is speculation. You may call this backlinks whatever, but legit, old, well known sites in the industry that is long time DMOZ listed are much better passing juice than useless Alexa specs that you brought up.
     
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  2. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #42
    No, for lack of a better term, its fake. I am not interested in who is doing what. Nor do I even know who the fellow is you are arguing with in the first place.

    I looked at the site and a few metrics, determined the PR is not legit or an accurate representation of the value of a link on that site.

    That you are apparently selling links on pr 7 site, when it does not, by any stretch of anyone's imagine but yours, have a legit pr7 is disingenuous to say the least.

    To suggest that you have no idea what you are doing or talking about is being pretty generous. Because, if you do realize that is not really a pr7 or worth anything at all for that matter, you are simply conning folks.

    I tend to think for the former. I don't quite believe you realize what you are doing is wrong.
    Nigel
     
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  3. User333

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    #43
    - can agree on the second part partially, it may drop to 4-6 next update, may stay the same, still we just speculating, the metrics clearly shows DA 45, PA 54 and Trust of 25, which is can't be called useless. I agree that it is lower that functioning PR7 sites may have, but still it is not bad at all and will flow juice and help ranking (which is the reason to buy it on the first place).
     
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  4. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #44
    Its a huge useless turd bro. You should not be selling links on it and the PR is going to drop like a safe...

    Nigel
     
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  5. User333

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    #45
    Still speculation.
     
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  6. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #46
    Its not at all speculation, that site is a landmine of useless content and terrible backlinks. You dont have to listen but I would advise you to stop selling links here. If you don't understand that what you are doing is a sham then I will let the internet explain it to you in terms you may be able to understand.

    that is all,
    Nigel
     
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  7. User333

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    #47
    Still just false statements. No numbers, no prove. I have showed the numbers that is clearly shows the backlinks and stats, maybe little lower than some PR7 sites have. Other than that Niggel you no one to tell me what to do.
     
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  8. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #48
    I have absolutely no investment in how you choose to conduct yourself. Nor do I give a flip whether you want to listen to me or not. Its quite clear that you don't have an understanding of what is going on here or you wittingly will continue to rip folks off. Either way, you are not my concern.

    Your math, your charts, your tool screenshots mean literally nothing. In some cases completely disprove your point as well.

    Nigel
     
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    #49
    Go one. Don't just fart and leave. Take each point I made and explain where is that I'm wrong.
     
    User333, Sep 24, 2013 IP
  10. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #50
    You have yet to make a point other than you have no idea what you are talking about. There is no debate here, at all.

    Nigel
     
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    #51
    So I see you can't bring anything up except just talking crap about me. If you have anything to add about domain that have decent backlinks, trust of 25, DA45 and PA54 and PR7 you are welcome, other than that it is all speculation.
     
    User333, Sep 24, 2013 IP
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    #52
    Holly shit User333, there have been so many explanations about how this works in this thread and the other one. I'm pretty certain at this point that you just are not experienced / advanced enough to grasp it or you're pretending to be an ignoramus to try avoid being called a scammer. You're suppose to be a link building professional. If you can't identify what people have pointed out here you have no business being in the business that you're in. You are lucky only a couple of people that know what they're doing have spoken. I think that first idiot that didn't know crap and was trying to defend you really got your hopes up that you had a case. You do not, anyone that truly has any experience is going to tear you apart on this site.

    I have no reason to lie here, nothing to gain from it. I looked at this from a very deep level and analyzed everything necessary to determine this site is fake. I've been doing this at the highest level since it's been done and for multimillion dollar companies. I'm not amateur and I've got no reason to try to smear your reputation otherwise. What I say is the truth and it's accurate.

    Do you even realize that you basically explained it yourself? You just had got done saying that this site was forwarded and thrown away. That's what we've been trying to tell you except we're explaining that your PR7 is fake because of it. The links you have are mostly garbage, the content is terrible / copied and selling links on this junk yard of a site is ripping people off.

    Your site only has PR7 because the domain was forwarded to a domain that was PR7. If you want to say that someone else did that and it's not your fault, that's fine, it doesn't matter. You're the one selling links on it claiming it's a PR7 and worth it. We're telling you this site only has PR7 because of the forward that was in place when the last toolbar update occurred and that's otherwise known as PR faking.

    We're telling you that the links you have are complete shit and you'd be lucky to get a PR2 / PR3 out of them right now. Your site is poor quality with shit content and a crappy attempt at copying the site you were forwarded to.

    I'm sure you'll happily continue to try to rip people off even though you have this information now (and in my pessimistic opinion probably always had it).

    I'm expecting a repeat post from you here soon that just acts ignorant again and repeats something you've already said. I see no need to reply any longer. You're a fraud.
     
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    #53
    Again bla bla bla about me. Numbers please, I don't believe in cheap talks and speculations on what will happen, no one knows except if you not working for Google spam team what I suspect.
    Operate numbers please! And the numbers are: Trust 25, DA45 and PA54 and PR7

    Ones again it is nonsense!!! You can't gain PR if you redirect to higher PR site - period. It maybe can be done vice versa, other ways it would be possible to get PR0 domain, 301 redirect it to Google and get PR10. So it is total BS, and you know it.

    I may reconsider price, but other than that site have enough value to sell links on it and make positive impact on ranking!
     
    User333, Sep 25, 2013 IP
  14. Nigel Lew

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    #54
    Its fake PR, How the site arrived at it is not the point. That you are selling links on a fake PR 7 is.

    Nigel
     
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    #55
    Fake PR is when it was faked, this PR is never been faked and belong to this site on first place.
    Other than that it have: Trust 25, DA45 and PA54
     
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    #56
    I am done explaining very simple things to you. You might as well be trying to sell air to people. Buying a link on that site is a complete sham and you killed the site anyway by posting complete nonsense.

    You don't have a pr7 you have useless link farm of terrible content. Whatever value that site had you have already killed in the first place. Not to mention the fact it's now quite obvious that site is selling links and likely to get relegated to page 300 where it belongs.

    I tried to help you, you don't want to listen, fine with me. One less SEO provider I have to worry about competing with.

    Nigel
     
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    #57
    This alone shows that you do not have a clue or you're playing dumb. This is exactly how 'basic' PR faking is done. When you forward in certain ways you're telling Google that your site IS that other site and you essentially piggy back the PR of the site you're forwarding to, it meshes the two domains in to one for that update (I think you knew this already and you're trying to play dumb to save face). It's a major flaw in Google's ranking system and they probably don't care about fixing it because it only really affects link buyers and sellers which is not allowed by Google to begin with.

    It works both ways the same. Forwarding to or from, essentially in Google's eyes they're the same site with the exception that the site without the real PR7 level link juice is only PR7 on the toolbar. This giving you an easy way to scam people that are not experts and claiming that all of these Page Rank tools list it was PR7 so it must be PR7.

    Your backlinks and domain authority are not even in the near vicinity of a real PR7. Anyone worth their salt will tell you this (again, I'm sure you already know).

    Sick of low down dirty thieves stealing money like this.
     
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    #58
    I doubt that it works both way, I will make this experiment: take PR0 site and will redirect it to Google to get pr10 on it and will publish results here. Till then it is nonsense. Although you can share here links to some authority sites who made this tests and can confirm it.

    Never the less on my domain it was made vise versa by the previous owners who was moving their site to new domain. It is common legit practice when you want to keep and move your audience to new domain.
    BTW legit sites don't sell links at all. And anyone who sell links and buy them is in some way are thieves, because you trying to affect Google ranking which is against the rules. So I have the right to call you the same.

    There is so much worth site which selling links here and there is users who offers me PR8-9 sites which have no backlinks at all, and this is fake PR, mine are just leftovers of previous glory of that site, not a fake.
    The link on it will make significant change in ranking which we can try and publish here.

    This domain wasn't free so I selling links on it to be profitable. It is overpriced to have window for negotiation.

    You have brains and years of experience which is cost money. Those who doesn't are meant to pay to get it.
    If I will start posting here every worthless offer that I get there will be no other threads but mine.
     
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    #59
    BTW Nigel it is so funny to see you trying to make some point here while you being accused in Scamming.
    Those who interested can type: Nigel Lew is a Big Scammer! in the forum search and see.
    LMAO.
     
    User333, Sep 25, 2013 IP
  20. evershawn

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    #60
    No, the only thing here that's nonsense is that you either didn't know or are trying to act like you didn't know how to fake a PR.

    Frankly, no one gives a flying shit about your experiment because this IS how PR faking is done. It's already been proven, tested, abused, exploited, scammed in every way imaginable.

    You are an expert link builder? You don't even know how to do proper research in Google before coming here and trying to flame people in the thread or defend yourself. Here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+fake+page+rank+in+google

    Or you just overly pretend to be stupid about the business that you are suppose to be an expert in.

    You have proven on so many levels that either:

    A) You don't know shit about link building, SEO, PR or anything that surrounds the business you proclaim to be an expert in

    or

    B) You are pretending not to know any of it so you're not held accountable for being a scam artist.

    Either way, anyone would be foolish to ever do business with you from this point on for either of those reasons which are now solidified in this thread.
     
    evershawn, Sep 25, 2013 IP