Russia Shot Down 2 UK Jets...

Sorta watching CNN, and they believe that it may have been Russia that
has shot down two UA jets, or whatever, no matter how you look at this,
Russia is the backbone to supplying arms/weapons to the rebels that want
to take control of parts of the UA, and if the jets were not shot down directly
from Russia then you know the weapons come from Russia for sure...

First it a commercial jet was shot down a few days ago; CNN is saying that
it was a Russian military officer by the name of igor that pulled the trigger.

Now you have a shot down of two UA jets.
(Believed to be shot down by Russia)

Seems like Russia is looking for a fight...
(Duh, they are trying to take UA....)

 

Yeah, that's really sad. I heared somewhere that they tried to blame Ukraine somehow. I really don't know how to react to these actions but Russian government should explain all these things somehow.

 

I should point out that when you're saying UK you do not mean the United Kingdom? There were two Ukrainian jets shot down by the rebels.

The abbreviation for the Ukraine is UA.

Obviously, Russia is not coming after the UK.

 

My bad...

Russia surely would if they could...
That is what dictator nations do...
They try to take control, and grab more power...

My mistake has been corrected....

Thanks

PS The black boxes of MH17 did arrive in the UK....

 

This is all about Russia wanting more territory I suppose....
The US should put some long range assets on the UA border...
But I am not really for a US getting into another conflict, and those missles
can cost into the 1000's just for one missile, but if Russia knew that there could
be return missile fire from the country that carries the giant stick, then Russia
may think twice before firing into the UA, unless they want something blown up....

I guess the US cant do that either, if the did, then they would have to deal
with the rebels on one side, and Russia on the other, that wouldnt be good...

The UA must not have the assets to fight, they are like, well two of our planes
were shot down, oh well...I tell you, if Russia were to have shot two US
planes down, then another 20 or so would be smoking that location into flames....

It is a true embarrassment to have your planes blown out of the sky, and you do
nothing? and it says alot if they cant or wont return fire to defend themselves....

 

About the US smoking anything you must have forgot we have Obama in charge and the only thing he smokes is located in the pelvic region of a man and is the worst President the US has ever seen and lets everyone walk all over our country. If this was just about any other President we have had in the past the conflict would already be resolved even if that President was Jimmy Carter... Just my input.

 

Sorry to throw this out there, but the Ukraine is in anarchy, and Russia is simply standing on the sidelines. I agree that there are rebels in the ukraine causing issues, but the rebels side on both Ukrainian opinions and Russian. How would you expect half of your Ukrainian nation to respond if they're primary language is Russian, and the Ukraine want to enforce the rule of all documents in the Ukraine be written in Ukrainian. This is just a simple point. As for the jets...

Well, I honestly believe they were shot down by the Ukraine, in the hope that russia will be blamed. This gives the ukraine even more support behind their government which is in anarchy. The only way it could be russians, would be if Russian military was inside of the Ukraine. None of the rebels would have the experise to learn, then fire at a jet and be accurate, as they would not have the training to do so.

Oddly enough, all of the world is reporting one story, but if you could understand russian news, you'd see a completely different picture. (I have family in both the Ukraine and Russia). What I will say is that the world has made it's mind up, they have their opinion and this will not change, so even if russia gave away all it's oil/gas, handed in all weapons, left the ukraine alone, and literally lay down and did nothing, they'd still be blamed for something as simple as a natural disaster in the ukraine, if one was to occur.

Side note: crimea was annexed in the protection of the poeple who reside there, this I also believe because something like 90% of the residents are russian, due to crimea being given to the Ukraine about 10 years ago, as a gift of some kind.

Additional side note: Russians in the Ukraine, that have lived there since it became an independent nation in 1992, who in affect could be called ukrianian and have ukrainian nationality are being treated like shit at the moment due to this issue. It is them I feel sorry for.

This isn't a war for the people, it was started by rich ukrianians, funding poor people and gangs to rebel against a government which was wieghing it's options about favouring europe over russia, for closest economic ties. These people then somehow gathered momentum and over threw a president doing what a president should do "looking out for his nation", then this caused issues racially due to Russians being in the Ukraine, and Russia wanting to protect them. This results in the annexation of crimea, and the ukraine being unhappy, now being very petty and unable to take this land back on their own, and trying togain the backing of the rest of the world. True Russia, has mounted forces on the borders of the country, and they have annexed crimea, but they have done nothing to risk the lives of civilians in the country of the Ukraine.

Please read both sides of government statements before making judgements and please feel free to express your opinions of the present situation, it's a very interesting one. Hopefully it wa calm down and not result in world war 3, but you never know, the USA and Europe open their mouth and say the wrong thing, or if Russia does decide to say fuck it, we do want the Ukraine, and there is a very real chance of a world war 3.

 

2 Ukrainian SU-25s if i'm not mistaken.