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  1. radiusdanu

    radiusdanu Notable Member

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    #21
    That's why In islam, woman (muslimah) should be covered, not wrapped...
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    Man born with more lust than a woman. That's why woman should be covered, not wrapped.
    And virginity is the highest standard for a woman before get married.
     
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    Sorry! I assumed both parties were straight :(.
     
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  3. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #23
    But that leads back to the eternal question of why the woman must pay for the man's weakness?
    Those flies might be doing what comes naturally but in my country we kill them before they have a chance to strike. Fancy adopting that approach for male humans?
    See, I can come on here and I don't even wonder at your gender, let alone your sexual proclivity. I am more interested in your thoughts etc. I see you've set your profile as male but I've been around long enough to know that one's stated nationality, gender, age and appearance is unlikely to be as stated. I can point you to 4 new "English" members as classic examples.
     
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    radiusdanu Notable Member

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    #24
    In my religion ISLAM RAHMATAN LIL'AALAMIN, eve created from adam's rib. That's why woman should be protected from man.
    And a man (her husband) will be her protector.
    They should prevent it by wear a hijab. Because in this world, We only know male and female.
    Gay, lesbian, etc, etc is not included (it's a desease).

    Another point.
    4 man bear every single sin from a woman. Her dad, her brother, her son, and her husband. And if my wife, my daughter, my mom, and my sister do a sin, i will bear it in judgement day. Only islam that makes woman as it should be. Not for exploited. They should wear a hijab for their protection. Because in ISLAM, the beauty of a woman, is a rights for her husband, NOT for every male eyes.
     
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  5. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #25
    Nah, doesn't work. It is the responsibility of the person doing the bad thing to change their actions.

    How do you feel being labelled a rapist?

    and you don't seriously believe in creationism do you?
     
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    jv1999 Active Member

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    #26
    I don't understand. You're an atheist, right? So you rely on Darwinism a lot... but you ask why "the weak" should be at fault instead of "the strong." That's like saying it's unfair for rabbits to be eaten by wolves...

    In religion, it is the guy's fault if they do wrong things to weak girls. But, scientifically speaking, it's the girl's responsibility to care for her own safety...
     
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  7. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #27
    That's all back to front. That religion makes it the girls fault and imposes chaperones and clothing when it should be schooling the person who is doing the bad thing. A girl is not assaulted because she is "weak" and "deserves it" - what a disgusting notion.

    My kids are raised that there are ways to behave if you want to get on in the world. There's no difference in the rules just because of their gender. Neither child steals, defaces property, uses violence or imposes physically on another person. It is their responsibility to behave like civilised people. No doubt some would confer a status by judging their dress, speech, table manners, education etc but they're pretty nice people.

    Should I hear that my son had sexually assaulted someone the responsibility would be entirely on his shoulders. The other party may not have been shrouded in black fabric but no matter how naked, how drunk, how unsafely they may have behaved it is still his responsibility to behave like a gentleman. Ultimately it's his body and he chooses what he does with it. Nobody can force him to take a thought and turn it into action.
     
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    #28
    A girl is assaulted because she's weak... Psychologists have confirmed that rapists rape for "control" and not for lust. Do you think scrawny rapists will go after WWE female wrestlers? Probably not. They'd rather prey on the easy targets who they know can't fight back or don't have the strength to...

    No one said girls deserve to be raped. No one does, neither girl nor boy.

    Religion requires chaperoning and dress because they're safety requirements (for religion). You wouldn't let your 5 year old play by himself at 12 midnight in the playground? It's the same analogy for girls who can't defend themselves... to keep them safe from predators, they have these strict codes. That doesn't mean it's the girl's fault -- it's just protection.
     
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  9. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #29
    But there are plenty of men who are stronger than me - why is it that I am not being assaulted constantly?
    Could it be that atheist men have stronger morals?
    Then again, I met a Sikh today and he managed to control himself despite being much taller and stronger, but maybe that religion teaches self control too?
    Why do Muslim men not get taught that too?
     
    sarahk, Jun 26, 2016 IP
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    #30
    He didn't want to rape you because not all men are rapists? :p He obviously didn't have control issues or has them under control.

    Muslims don't have an age of consent, so marriage is possible at 8. They can also sell women into marriage. It's not the ideal religion for equality, but that's just one religion...
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Then why do all women have to act as if all men are?
    I don't think I've ever met an 8 year old who is capable of sexual desire or who would actually understand what she would be consenting to. It might be possible to marry that 8 year old but sex within the marriage would still be rape, or at best "coerced".
     
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    #32
    Well, it's like if you have $300 in cash. Why do you have to put it in your pocket? Why do you have to keep it in the bank? Why can't you just display it where people can see it? Because even if not everyone is a thief, you have to protect yourself from thieves.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #33
    People are not "things".
    You can insure yourself against the loss of "things".
    We are talking about how people interact with other people. When you live in a city with civilised people you shouldn't have to be on the lookout for savages. There is a baseline of acceptable behaviour. Shoving your dick into random people is well below the baseline IMO
     
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