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Discussion in 'General Business' started by Alvin, Mar 22, 2007.

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Is $10 charge genuine?

  1. NO!

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  2. Yes!

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  1. #1
    Hello DP,


    I bought this site from Sullmoney which is running http://www.mediascript.net/ and he told me that licence will be transfered if I pm hypnotic (script owner), which I did!
    Now hypnotic is askign $10 for License transfer, but I dont see such costs mentioned in his license agreement.
    Also he had mentioned one year free support which he is refusing to give now and my site is not working after transfer. :mad:
    $10 is very little amount which I dont care about but its matter of principle.
    I have searched his thread also but he never mentioned any thing as such there. (unless I am blind).

    I will request DP to decide if this is a genuine fee and should I pay?

    As I said before its not a matter of $10, the thing is he should make buyers aware of such costs.



    Here is MediaDUMP licence agreement which I copied from his site
     
    Alvin, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  2. Nicks

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    well, you must not pay any excess charges to anyone, rather you contact the person from whom you purchased the site. he is responsible for the deal and he has to arrange the licence from the original owner.
     
    Nicks, Mar 22, 2007 IP
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    I agree with Nicks. This is something you should sort out with the seller of the site since you actually did not purchase the script from from the creator Media Dump and therefor have no agreement with them.
    Nothing personal, but that's what I think
     
    noniman, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  4. hypnotic

    hypnotic Active Member

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    Mate, everyone who has transfered a copy of Media Dump to another user has payed the fee. This is nothing personal against you, so I really don't see the need for this thread.

    I never refused the support. I simply asked you OR the seller to pay the fee before I would give you the support. Please get your facts right first. I don't mind whether or not you pay the fee, however if you don't, I wont provide updates or support, simple as that.

    Oh, and I noticed you stated a "genuine" buyer. You actually purchased the script from another user, hence you are not classified as a genuine buyer. How could I notify you of the cost if you hadn't contacted me beforehand? Really, I don't see what the deal is.
     
    hypnotic, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  5. MKInfo

    MKInfo DP Guard Dog

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    Agreed.It is between you and the seller.Before selling any site using a script I always get in touch with the developer beforehand to see what I need to do.
    To me this has nothing to do with Hypnotic
     
    MKInfo, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    Its not about hypnotic is it ? If sullmoney said that the licence will be transfered and he failed to mention that there was a cost, whether he was aware of it or not, that is sullmoneys responsibility I think.
     
    login, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  7. Alvin

    Alvin Notable Member

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    #7
    The Question is WHY should I pay? There is nothing mentioned in your thread or
    licence agreement that there is transform fee.

    I am not saying that "BUYERS are MISINFORMED"
    :)

    You cannot makeup all the rules when ever you want Even when Sullmoney could had bought your script he would not had been aware of the licence cost involved.
     
    Alvin, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    wiseugy Active Member

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    Get a life, dude. It's $10 bucks. It's understandable. It's life. Deal with it.
     
    wiseugy, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  9. Alvin

    Alvin Notable Member

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    If its $10 it doesnt mean that I just keep paying people because they ask for it. I had said before also its not matter of $10
     
    Alvin, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    #10
    thts right bro. its not 10 USD. its a thing to be noticed for all prospective buyers. why should you pay for other's acts. its sullmoney's fault and when he is selling site to you, its his duty to provide you with a working script. now that site is not working, you better ask for a refund from him and give him his site back as you might be facing more complications in future from the original seller as he will not provide you support till you pay him the money.

    in my opinion, its advisable to return the site to sullmoney and get your cash back.

    rest is upto you to decide.
     
    Nicks, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    This is poor advice, or are you simply trying to troll?

    The OP has a genuine concern, the transfer charge is not mentioned in the license and he feels he isn't responsible for it, I agree.

    If the script owner was serious about maintaining his ownership of the script he would have written the charge into the license. "Everyone else paid the charge" is not a valid reason for charging someone. Now, as far as I can tell the support is only offered to those that pay the transfer charge, that's perfectly reasonable considering the script owner has nothing to gain by providing free support, although I think it's a poor reflection of the seller and script owner's professionalism to make buyers aware of the charge only after the fact. Now, if the site was sold on the notion that support would be offered by the script owner without paying a charge then the seller is absolutely responsible for the transfer charge, unless of course he was unaware of the charge to begin with.

    I'm going to add that this could have been avoided so easily by the script owner if he had simply written the charge into the license.

    Edit: I just read the post below me and re read the license. Discreet is correct, the OP bought the script from someone who wasn't allowed to sell it. Pay the charge.
     
    checksum, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  12. Discreet

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    Actually there is a clause in the license agreement:

    This clause prevents you from buying/using somebody else's copy of the software. hypnotic has every right to charge you $10 for the transfer.

    Legally speaking, you have bought somebody's rights to software that is non-transferable. Rather than get involved in a bunch of legal crap, hypnotic is offering you access to the software for $10, that's only 10% of the full retail value.

    hypnotic is not trying to screw you over.

    Sullmoney should have told you in advance about it, but in the end it's 100% up to you to ensure you are not violating the license agreement.

    It sucks, but there's this little thing called Due Deligence (spelling?) in the law that basically says "If you don't do your homework and fully check something out before buying it, your are SOL if it doesn't work properly."

    Legally speaking, hypnotic could charge you the full amount of $100 to use the software, but it sounds like he is being a decent fellow and giving it to you at a very good discount.
     
    Discreet, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    checksum, Discreet - both great posts. And you're right checksum, I was a bit harsh and yours and Discreets comments are much more helpful than mine. I apologize.

    Alvin, I think both offer great advice and the answer is in their answers.

    Either get a refund from who you purchased it from or pay the $10.

    And the script owner/author should consider writing transfer fees into the agreement, or not allow transfers at all.
     
    wiseugy, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    the person who your bought the site from should pay the transfer fee.

    Its perfectly reasonable for the script writer to request money to transfer a licsense, its not like hes asking alot either.
     
    amnezia, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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