Is Iran trying to start world war three?

I think the subject is going off track this is not about Iraq but Iran and the seizure of 15 British naval personnel.

Also the news is reporting Iran TV will be showing video of the British personnel shortly.

 

Another aspect to look at is as this is the second time this has happened do you think Britain need to take more steps to make sure Iran does not think it could do this again and get away with it.

Maybe take this to the UN, What can Britain do to tell Iran to never try this again.

 

That's no problem, after the masacre that went on in iraq ( I'm on about co-alition forces kiling each other by accident ), I don't see the co-allition fighting on the ground again, this time it'll be fought ( almost-entirely ) from the air, and with the possibility of a nuclear disaster the co-allition will just keep flying over and dropping bomb after bomb after bomb, nucluer bombs do not have such a devistating effect if they are just blown to bits, obiously theres an explosion, but not a nuclear one, they require a chemical reaction to be triggered, so the only way to diffuse this situation is by killing everybody, it will happen, and they brought it on themselves .....

 

Iran are being too defiant in my eyes, but it seems to me that the British and US forces are looking for another excuse to go to war! Iran are blatently blanking the UK & US but why would they do this knowing full well that we both would not hesitate going to war?! I don't think Iran would do this without having someone or SOMETHING to back them up.

 

Even if this were true, Iran certainly is throwing out the bait. And you think the Iranian government is sensible I assume?

 

It is clearly obvious that Iran just wants to be left alone, it's the Bush cabal and the mainstream media that are putting all these thoughts in the sheeples minds.

Iran knows that it will be crushed if it even attempted to attack anyone.

The problem is too many idiots are so easily manipulated into thinking Iran is a major threat, it isn't.

It just happens to be another country that the US wants to commandeer in its quest to take over most of the major oil nations in the Middle East. People are so stupid not to see this. It makes me fucking mad.

 

Hush! didn't they tell you, you don't use the word "oil" you use "democrate"

democrate for oil
human rights for money
freedom for new world order

write down these in case you forget again, respect the plan dammit!
tut tut..

 

I think your wrong. What makes a country dangerous depends highly on how motivated its people are. Would you consider Germany dangerous? Not now, but 50 years ago - F yeh! Vietnam proved a small country could give a bigger country a blood nose if it was prepared to take a beating in the process. I don't judge a dog by its size but by its heart to fight. I've meet huge blokes who are cowards and small blokes who are scrappers. Iran in the Iran-Iraq war was prepared to have children run across mine fields to clear them for the 'professional' soldiers - you are in the same fairy land that the people who said give Hitlers the Sudetenland he won't want anything else. Wake up and smell the roses - you seem to believe there are larger forces at work - well in this case those larger forces are clashing and the hot spot is the middle east.

Iran has a fair quantity of oil - a resource that is fast running out - it has its foot on the throat of the US economy and therefore the world economy - the stakes are large and Iran is a player.

 

Mate, the US (and small coaltion forces, with the lapdog idiot UK as it's biggest) have already ruined 2 countrys in the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Do we really need them to ruin another?

 

They don't actually have nuclear weapons, them enriching uranium is years away from perfecting it to the standards needed to make effective nuclear weapons.

A country doens't need to have something to start a war, least of all countries in the eastern parts of the globe, since they all believe so deeply in thier god it's not such a big deal that everyone is going to die, and that thier leaders are about to inflict the worst sort of environment on those people, all because they won't be told what to do.

Well them and any other country is just going to have to learn that if the UN / EU / USA or UK say jump, the whole country is supposed to stand up and say "how high?", we don't want to hear bullshit about how every country has the right to this and that, because the facts are they do not, Iran is politically to weak to have the responsability being one of the worlds nuclear powers, and so they should be stopped using any means possible.

My last sentence may not seem fair, it's probably not, I'm saying what I see, the world is no longer seperate countries, as a whole the world needs each other to survive, countries like the USA, the United Kingdom and collectively Europe have the money and resources to try and insure that the globally economy is a healthy one, our governments will find that task impossible if the world does not maintain some sort of order, and that's all that was being attempted by controling Irans nuclear facilities, plenty of countries are a nuclear power and theres no problem with it, even countries that have broken the terms of the same treaty that Iran has have since been found to be investing in nuclear research, nor were those countries taken to war, the governing body of Iran did this, no one else .....

 

No I'm against such a war - war is death and suffering - and if you wanted to truly defeat Iran you would need to slaughter half the population in order to destroy the countries will to fight - hence why I would object to going to such a war - because the powers that be would want it fought to their "rules" whereas to win a war like the one I predict against Iran you would need to slaughter village after village - men, women and children to destroy the will of the country completely. (check the history books and see what the Mongol horde did when it went through Persia) The US can not allow Iran to go Nuclear - if Iran goes nuclear you will end up with a western city going up in flames when some fanatic decides to smuggle in a nuclear weapon (why do you think Pakistan continues to be allowed a dictatorship unhassled by the West - because the US only trusts the current regime to have the access to the nuclear weapons it currently has - if a coup took place and Muslim extremists took over the government I can guarantee the US would be in there before you could boil the kettle). If a western city was demolished in such a fashion a full nuclear strike would occur and global warming would no longer be a problem as we all freeze off our asses in a nuclear winter - maybe thats why George Bush is happy not to tackle global warming - he wants it a few degrees warmer yet to make a nuclear winter no quite so bad. ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

International laws also say that Navy vessels are sovereign territory and can't be hijacked merely for straying into the wrong waters. As it goes it now appears our boys (and girl) were about 1.5 miles in Iraqi waters so it was in fact the Iranians that have ballsed up.

As for World War 3, I can't see it on the horizon at the moment - we'll wag our finger at Iran for a couple of weeks and if they still don't budge we'll ask the US to intervene.

 

Who gives you the right to appoint rights to countries and decide who to have nuclear power or no?

This kind of snobbish and greedy behaviours are the basis of problems. You don't just expect people watch when you throw shit world-wide.

 

Being in other country's waters without permission is against the law.

 

If history teaches us one thing - its that those with the power don't like sharing it - having nuclear weapons represents power - those with those weapons already don't want anyone else to have that kind of power - yes for greed, but also for self preservation.

 

Under the 1972-82 UN Convention of the Law of the Sea:

....a warship is immune from interference by other nations. It may not be searched or inspected without permission of the commanding officer. It is also immune from arrest and seizure and does not pay foreign taxes or abide by foreign regulations... this includes vessels other than warships that are controlled by the armed forces.

So although the Royal Navy may have been violating Iranian territorial waters, that doesn't give the Iranians any right to seize personnel or equipment. As it goes, it now transpires we were well within Iraqi waters.

 

Do you really expect a nation who threaten wipe another nation of the map to follow the conventions of the law????

 

Nobody gave it to me, try reading the whole post instead of the bits you can complain about, it's a fact, some countries are more influential than others and some countries aren't suitable to be one of the ones with the aforementioned influence.

 

If nobody gave it to you, how can you say "some are not suitable" It only looks US is far from suitable considering the events throughout the 20th century(esp.WWII) and also lately.

You should abandon these "i love myself" based ideas. If you react others for having nuclear power, first destroy yours and then ask Israel to. or best luck with your journey, justifying double standards.

 

There are no doulbe standards, countries that are polotically and economically stable enough to have a nuclear program should and are allowed, countries that are not THAT HAVE ALREADY AGREED NOT TO DEVELOP SUCH TECHNOLOGY should be ready to face the consequence when the break the terms of that treaty.