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Do you use Internet Explorer 7 ??

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by olddocks, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. timsdd

    timsdd Peon

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    #821
    tabs wow, they spoiled us with that on. maybe in version 8 they'll have an auto restore feature for when it crashes...then again FF & Opera have had that featurte forever now. :rolleyes:
     
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    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    #822
    I, too, find that funny when someone prefers a browser because it has tabs, as if that should be the deciding factor. Before Firefox had tabs, Opera had them. Before Opera, some other browser did. Tabs are nothing new and have been around for many years. Glad to see IE caught up seven years later with that.
     
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    sray Active Member

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    #823
    I am a hardcore fan of Firefox. I dont like any browser except FF. It's the ultimate. :)
     
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    #824
    IMO,I have not find any bugs on SMF by using IE
     
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    #825
    I use IE 7 just for testing my designs.
     
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  6. drhowarddrfine

    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    #826
    You will run into bugs on almost all web pages using IE. There are float bugs, box model bugs, margin collapse bugs, and, for your total entertainment, 'haslayout' bugs, etc. Bugs that all other browsers have little to none of.

    For example, parent elements are never to expand to contain floated elements. IE routinely does this while no other browser does.

    'haslayout' is a flag inside the browser which, until recently, no one was aware of. If you triggered 'haslayout', your web page displayed quite differently than if you didn't. But you never knew exactly why or how it happened. Even now, it can be a mystery as to how you trigger this flag. 'haslayout' does not exist in any other browser.

    IE6 does not behave the same as IE7 which does not behave the same as IE8. Hacks for IE6 (such as the star hack) won't work on IE7 and some hacks (like for the 'haslayout' bug) won't work on IE8. None of those hacks apply to any other browser but you must take all three into consideration when you create your web sites being careful to not let them interfere with any other browser (which don't need the hacks).

    I've only mentioned three. There are many, many more. It would do us web developers good if IE went away. This week, after finishing my last few pages for a restaurant, I spent 20 hours total just creating hacks for IE.
     
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    StormForum Well-Known Member

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    #827
    Lol, quite ridiculous Microsoft took 7 years after initial release of tabs to implement it into their browser, it seems only since the development of Internet Explorer 7 they have took this seriously and started building the foundations towards standard browser features.

    My opinion on the matter is that Firefox is indeed more secure in terms of having add-ons like NoScript (which I have used beforehand when I had my XP computer having Firefox installed) - and it had blocked every single JavaScript popup on ANY Website, which is quite handy.

    I have recently bought a laptop and it had Windows Vista installed, and obviously IE7. I tried it and it was incredibly fast - in terms of opening tabs, and actually opening the browser in the first place. Now I don't know if this is because I have 2GB memory, whereas my desktop computer had a small 256MB - or because of vista has a whole, as others have commented that IE7 is faster in vista also.

    I'd like your comments on this, also :).
     
    StormForum, Mar 23, 2008 IP
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    LOVESTAR! Peon

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    #828
    In my opinion IE is absolutely horrible, I definitely like FireFox a lot more.
     
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    StormForum Well-Known Member

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    #829
    Not sure about you, but everybody is just saying "Firefox is the best, period" - very dramatic indeed, but you haven't stated your valid point as to why you prefer Firefox. This isn't a very debatable topic if people just say the same thing, just my opinion, but it would be more interesting to here your views into why you prefer Firefox or Internet Explorer, or possibly even a different browser.
     
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    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    #830
    Agree. Many people just jump on the popular band wagon. Personally, I promote any other browser but IE for technical reasons. I develop web sites and spend far, far too much time rewriting and hacking my markup to make it work in IE. All of my pages generally work fine in all browsers the first time through, save some minor adjustment for this and that. IE, otoh, can require hours of testing, researching, reading to find why that element isn't sitting where it should even though it works in Opera, Safari, Konqueror and Firefox.

    iow, if there was no IE, I would save myself, and my customers, hours of work every week.

    In addition, there are some really cool techniques I would love to use. I can't because they don't work on IE. SVG is great for graphics. XHTML has some neat things I could use. The DOM is so much better if it only worked in IE, too, like other browsers. IE doesn't really even get javascript right.

    I just don't have these issues with other browsers. I'm hoping everyone switches so my job becomes easier.
     
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    #831
    FF b/c it has better models [​IMG] :D
     
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    #832
    Oh...boy, she is so HOT :eek: :D
     
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    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    #833
    [​IMG]
    So Hot..
     
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    #834
    LOL, nice pic. "Hot" indeed :))
     
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    timsdd Peon

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    #835
    see , that's a fallacy...no way that guy has a mate :rolleyes:
     
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    #836
    Is that you ? :rolleyes:
     
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    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    #837
    May help to read the thread. Am an Opera User.

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    #838
    there you go, I buy that logic :D
     
    timsdd, Mar 25, 2008 IP
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    #839
    I still use IE 6 and Firefox 2
     
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    #840
    IE7...not our public library! FF 1.5.X.X something :eek: :D
     
    timsdd, Mar 28, 2008 IP