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25 YR Old man hanged in Singapore for Drugs

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by yo-yo, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. ROAR

    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #41
    No--that guy certainly did not deserve a 2nd chance. He took a shot and lost. He was scum. That does not mean society has the right to end his life. He should have been locked up indefinitely.
     
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    #42
    According to that there are a ton of people that should be executed.
     
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    #43
    Mike- Reading is fundamental sir. What part of 2nd chance do you equate with life sentence?
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #44
    mia are you totally clueless their absolutely no difference between alcohol and drugs, except a piece of paper saying ones legal and one is not

    They cause the exact same effect on someone who is addicted

    Do you believe in personal choice or do you perfer government telling you what to do in personal life?
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #45
    Mia you are losing me , did you just say things should be illegal for the sake of being illegal.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #46
    If every person that ever sold a drug in their life was locked up for life I'm willing to bet 5% of all of U.S. citizens would be locked up...

    That's about 14 Million people :rolleyes:
     
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    #47
    k I'm used to the soft slap on the wrist laws ... yeah, you may have a point. But then again, if I had to spend the rest of my life behind bars, I can't really look at death as being that much worse :confused:

    but then again, if I had a choice, yeah ... gimme life :cool: heh
     
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  8. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #48
    Unless your name is Aaron Cohen and you were born that way. We have clinical trials in this country studying the hundreds of pregnant women who are meth addicts - what chance do those kids have?
     
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    #49
    The problem once again is you're blaming the WRONG people. When you should be blaming the pregnant woman who's too weak and dumb to not get pregnant and not do drugs, you're blaming the dealer she buys from.

    Does anyone believe in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY anymore?
     
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    #50
    We still need to protect those with shitty parents as well. Not the kids fault.
     
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    #51
    Guys---I have no idea what is to be done with heroin pushers. I have zero personal experience with it. Controlling the substance is probally in society's best interest. Not my gig---really dont care to be quite frank.

    We are not talking about the kid growing bud to raise rent money in college. A pound of heroin, no? There is a tremendous difference.

    We were talking about the death penalty though---right? To be blunt, I think it is wrong.

    To me= soft drugs should be legal ala Netherlands.

    Mike for what its worth, I would rather be dead than sit in jail.

    5% of the US population has sold drugs? Hmmmm---I will take that action.
     
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    #52
    You're right, it's not the kids fault.. its the parents fault and that's who we should be blaming instead of a drug dealer.
     
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    #53
    It seems drink while pregnnant does some funky stuff too, maybe we should make it illegal?
     
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    #54
    I have no problem with that.

    I miscarried after drinking - didn't know I was pregnant at the time, only about 4 or 5 weeks thru. I still wonder about the wee person that never was. However if I hadn't lost that baby my gorgeous boy couldn't have been conceived the following month - and I couldn't imagine life without him.
     
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    #55
    What i see today:eek:

    ferret77 wrote:
    Sure, and what if the money runs out? and because of your habit not being able to perform a normal job?

    You would be doing crime!! even though the hard-drugs are legal!

    Making things legal doesn't mean it would get rid of crime entirely!
    This statement is false.


    yo-yo wrote:
    Not all of them! Some of the people that are addicted knew beforehand what they where getting in to the first time they smoked or shooted it but not all of them. That's really shortsighted of you to say that.
    And once you are hooked it's very difficult to stop (depending on the time an adict is been using) in combination with environmental situations it's even more difficult to stop.

    Some people are being tricked into this new addiction. I'm probably telling you something that you can't comprehend but it's true.

    When addicted there is no matter of choice anymore, it's become an obligation! Also there are dealers that are using force to get you hooked again. It's not common practice but it does happens.

    There are tons of parents that has children that are hooked on drugs and that hold no responsibility for their children being an addict on heroine for example.
    So don't blame the parents because this is once again very shortsighted of you.

    There are tons of addicts that come from an very good parenting background but these heroine addictions can't be stopped or be forseen by the parents.
    Like you said before it's everyones choice...in the beginning that is when you for the first time hold that piece of tinn foil or needle in your hand but some are less more intelligent to understand that it's a start of walking the path to a coffen. And therefor make the wrong decision or some think there strong enough and they will not be addicted.

    Your right about making a choice for themself but ask yourself do they have the ability to make the right decision based on expierences from others or expierence in life in general?

    Also parents can not control what their kids are doing out of there house and when the addiction is started they can't even control what's going on in there house!

    Once again i regard this statement as being shortsighted and ignorant to the real life facts of hard-drugs. it's not the parents fault!!!
     
    Edz, Dec 2, 2005 IP
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    #56
    You know, people got in a big uproar in the U.S. about Michael Faye being caned for vandalism in Singapore. Why? This is their country and their rules. They have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. I know I'd love to kick someone's a** myself if they vandilized my property (as would many).

    We just had the 1000th person executed in the U.S. since 1977. Where is that thread and the people complaining about that?
     
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    #57
    I think it really depends on the situation. in some cases it is, in other cases it's not.
     
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    #58
    If the parents themself aren't offering the drugs to their kids or exposing them in such an environment or downplaying the fact that hard-drugs is very dangerous to be using then you can't blaim the parents.

    On the other hand if they are downplaying the fact of hard-drugs being dangerous and or exposing their kids to hard-drugs or even offering it to them for free or even for money:eek: then they are guilty of being a part of the blame for having addicted children. Because the other part lies with the user itself.


    Yo-Yo is implying with his/hers statement that it's the parents fault, period.
    And this offcourse not... true.
     
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    #59
    One thing I have to say is that in situations like these you need to deal with things regardless of what the parents did or didn't do right. So basically, it's insignificant. Mom and dad are not there to fix the problem, it's society having to do it.

    You should hold people accountable, but not condemn them.
     
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    #60
    was reading this thread with all those arguements, rarely making a point, was also wondering if and when someone would finally bring up this issue, thanks!!!
     
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