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Absolutely TERRIBLE Day

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by chatmasta, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hey,

    So in the past two days, I have spent $26 on AdWords. How much have I made? $5. For some reason today, my CTR was horrendously low, though I can't say the exact number.

    My earnings are really inconsistent (though I have changed my layout twice since setting this proxy network up on November 1st...the one I have now is what I want to stick with.)

    Yesterday, after changing my layout, my earnings was $3.99. However, today it is only $0.97. I have had two days over $3 and one more day over $2.

    So my biggest problem in terms of consistency is CTR. That really is all over the place. Some days are under 1%, others are over 3%.

    I am thinking the reason for the terribly low (and it was really, really low) CTR today was the irrelevant ads being displayed on my proxy sites (surfing, etc). I changed the text and meta words on it today to take out anything related to surfing, and also not too much on filters (I was getting pool filter ads).

    However, this still hasn't changed the ads I am seeing. Generally how long is it between crawls for the AdSense crawler?

    Also, I would greatly appreciate it if someone critiqued my ad placement.

    http://www.filtersneak.com

    Thanks!
     
    chatmasta, Nov 9, 2006 IP
  2. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Adsense doesn't like people using adwords and sending them to some lame page full of ads.
     
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    #3
    i think if you want your ads to change that you need to add some more text to your site. All that is there is the header and many links to proxy sites across the bottom. Because of this, the adbot has nothing else to go on and assumes that your targeting "filters". I'm not sure what you are hoping to target, I assume "proxy filters" and if that is the case you need to do some research to see how many advertisers are advertising "proxy filters".

    Hope this helps.
     
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  4. chatmasta

    chatmasta Peon

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    AdWords is a totally irrelevant point here, especially since it was only about 8% of my impressions. And this is a proxy. In this market, the vast majority of visitors are new visitors, and therefore the bottom line is key. I would actually prefer that they do not even browse to pages and consume my bandwidth, but rather just click on ads. I would just appreciate a solid reasoning behind my low CTR and if my assumption is right, an answer to my question.

    Also, just FYI...I added a bunch of sites to the competitive filter, and thats why the 250x250 square on the left is blank. It used to have an image ad there for surfing, but apparently there are no good ones, heh.

    EDIY:

    Rdv, that was a fast post lol. I had more text there, but it just triggered surf ads and pool filter ads, although there are some proxy ads. What I would actually prefer is more ads for myspace sites, image hosting sites, etc. AKA more people in my market, what I call the "asshole market." :p
     
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  5. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    Why on earth would you use the most expensive PPC network to drive traffic to the lowest paying publishing network???

    If you want to waste money PM me as I have 10,000 other more productive methods to waste money....
     
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  6. chatmasta

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    With AdWords, I was just testing the waters. Clearly they suck. Hahaha.

    Anyway, another question...why is this site (my friend's) getting such targeted ads? He has no text and no keywords.

    http://www.freedombrowse.com/
     
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    #7
    Ok so you learn quick this is good

    Next your friend has through use of domain name, the little blurb of text up top and the nice links at the bottom themed and targeted his site for Google

    Members of the FreedomBrowse Network
    FreedomBrowse - AlgebraTunnel - PirateProxy - GoldenProx - BetaProx
    HydroProxy - OptiProx - ThunderProx - MotionProxy - VelocityProxy - H2OProxy - TurboProx
    PlutoProxy - PencilProxy - SpiralProxy - ProxyLady - WurkProxy - ChoiceProxy - SumoProxy
    ElkProxy - GigaBrowse - LunarProxy - OptimalBrowse - Proxling - ProxyBullet - ProxyMountain

    Not too hard for Google to figure out what the sites about
     
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  8. chatmasta

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    Of course on the flip side those are probably all blacklisted.

    But back to my original question...I know this site is kinda spammed with ads, but how can I optimize their positioning?
     
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    Put the ads up top

    Flip the ads next to the big square over to the left side

    Take a look at Google Heat Map study

    https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=17954

    Also read this

    http://www.useit.com/alertbox/reading_pattern.html

    Your head tags need fixing...dump the site name from the title tag as you are not a brand name therefore nobody will be searching for your domain..
    or stick it at the end.
    <title>Proxy Website Offers Anonymous Internet Surfing FilterSneak.com</title>
    Clean up the meta description tag as well, and get
    the meta keys out of the comment tag that crap doesnt fool search engines

    Hope it helps
     
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    Thanks a lot for those links.

    The meta tags were in the comment tag because I was taking them out, actually, to test the effect on the ads. Of course the search engines don't fall for that. I have concluded that they aren't really necessary in my case - true?
     
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    Most search engines no longer read the meta keywords tag though recently Yahoo was using it to spam check page content..
     
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