Abuse of Iraqi children by British forces

1. The kids started it by throwing stones.

2. It is a war, war is always brutal.

 

One word: PROZAC

 

No, they're not, thet are just people who hate seeing sadisitc military kicking the shit out of people who haven't been found guilty of anything. How weird do you like your troops to be?

 

I know you guys are happy to see US and British troops torturing Iraqis, but I wonder how it is going to feel when they start doing it to Americans.

The same thing will happen in the US. If our government will allow its military to torture citizens in another country, there will come a point in time when they may do it to Americans.

Just like they were confiscating guns and tackling old ladies during Katrina, they may torture people here in the US.

 

Yeah, and space ships might land at taco bell. Hmm, well, maybe I'm saying that to the wrong person

Heh, looks like those teenagers got free college tuition for "Rock Chunkin' 101." What is today's lesson boys and girls? Chunk rocks at the military, get ass kicked! And along the way, some nujob will try to make them victims. What are the odds?

 

Hey man you guys are forgeting that Americans are not seen as liberators in Iraq (and we are not) but as an occupying force. There is a huge difference. They feel that a foreign government (no matter how "noble" the intentions) is in their freaking backyard shooting at them, so the natural thing to do is fight back with rocks or whatever they see fit.

 

They already do it to us Americans, what are you talking about. They are doing it in the form of economic slavery. The average American can barely make ends meet these days. It is a matter of time before we are so much in debt to other governments that we will be no longer be free, but slaves to our own doing. Poverty is torture and I see a whole lot more poor people today than a decade ago thats for sure.

 

Economic slavery? Is that the reason for the link to choose from hundreds of credit card offers in your signature?

 

boo hoo hoo

 

I like how all the sudden getting hit with a stick and kicked equals "torturing".
lmao...its war, not daycare.
Better pull your head from mohommads ass and realize what side youre on.

 

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does all abuse gets legalized in war ?
you will start talking straight once you get one hit like that in your butt.

 

Finally, someone else in this thread other than me who has common sense. If the United States had an army occupying it, wouldn't you not throw rocks at the troops to?

How would you like to be tortured for throwing rocks. Anyone who supports this is a maniac. You people fail to look at why we are over there in the first place. I don't support torture. period. You guys need to stop watching "24" and "Threat Matrix" and come back to reality.

If you want to throw them in jail, fine. But torture is sadistic and unnecessary.

 

The teenagers deserved the thrashing they got. It was primarily across the legs and buttocks and was a punishment because they were part of a mob throwing stones. What should have happened to them? Thrown into jail so they could be butt-fucked every day as the new bitch-on-the-block? Would that have been a more suitable punishment?

Where I grew up, we used to get our arses kicked if we stepped across the line. No criminal record and no dreaded home visit by the police. It was a relief if all you got was a bit of a slap because you knew that was the end of it there and then.

You do not approach armed men in uniform and start being abusive. That's common sense.

If you want to compare this incident, have a look at this one from the US where there was no rock throwing but if you asked me, the kid got everything he deserved.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6451373555410348611&q=cop+beats

 

I watched the video, and that cop didn't have to beat the kid that way. Just because he stuck up his middle finger? It think that sets a bad precedent here in the US.

 

No, of course the cop didn't have to beat the kid that way but I still think the kid got what he deserved.

The cop is armed to the teeth and is permanently on guard and on edge while on patrol and must be ready to go from 'calm to kill' in a few seconds as it is the nature and need of his job. Some punk kid getting right in his face and startling him like that is asking for trouble.

Where I see similarities between that footage and the Iraqi one is in wonderment that they all didn't get shot.

 

Well whatever, I think what they did was just fine. If anything they let them off too easy.

 

I couldn't not say anything any longer.......

SOLDIER'S VICIOUS FILM VOICEOVER: 'Oh yes, oh yes, you're gonna get it. Naughty little boys. You little f***ers, you little f***. DIE'

Just punishment for throwing rocks right?

How about a nice head-butt?


His captor releases the headlock, stands him up and—with combat helmet on and visor down—lands a crushing head butt. He rips the youngster's T-shirt over his head and smashes his right fist twice into his kidneys and once into his head.

In panic the terrified captive desperately clings to the lanyard of the soldier's baton in an attempt to stop it being used on him.

His pitiful cries of "No! Please!" are clearly heard. But the mocking commentator merely puts on a childlike voice and mimics his Iraqi accent: "No, pleeese—don't hurt me."

Prisoner 2:
As he unleashes ten blows the boy twists and squirms around the soldier's ankles trying to save himself. A soldier in a floppy hat—not part of the snatch squad—looks on. He is clearly unsure of what to do but does not look alarmed or make any attempt to stop the beating.

Instead he helps fix plastic restraining ties on the lad's wrists. Another burly soldier, in desert camouflage and webbing belt with water bottle attached, strides up and whacks the Iraqi's backside with a baton. The prisoner's feet jerk in agony before he appears to pass out, a dark patch that looks like blood around his head. Meanwhile PRISONER 3, in white T-shirt and jeans, is booted in the back and body six times by two soldiers.

PRISONER 4, barefoot in light blue T-shirt with beige trousers, is beaten before being picked bodily off the ground like a sack of potatoes, dumped on his chest and held with his arms up his back by two of the squad.

One soldier, identified by our source as a sergeant, walks up behind him and kicks him hard between the legs from behind.

The boy's body arches in pain and the soldier behind the camera is heard poking fun and groaning: "Oorrgghh!"

As another squad troop past and take no notice a soldier's voice is heard to scream: "In the f***ing head!"


MURDER:
The cameraman then commits an act considered the ultimate insult to an Iraqi—and kicks the dead man twice in the face, humiliating him in death. As the head of the man, aged in his 20s, is lifted to face the lens a soldier sniggers: "He's been a bad mother****er."

Another scene shows an Iraqi man grabbed by three soldiers and forced to kneel behind a wall where he is kicked hard in the chest.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml

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That is cold blooded MURDER. Anyone trying to defend this is disgusting. All of those troops deserve the same punishment. Absolutely disgusting.

And you have the nerve to call Iraqis who retaliate "Terrorist" ... so pathetic.

 

In reply to this post about the kid getting beat up for putting up his middle finger,

First above quote is entirely contradictonary in it's whole.

First part in the sentence saying that it didn't have to happen and then following up with "he got what he deserved" saying basicly to let it happen.

Secondly the reaction by the cop is not the kind of reaction you would expect from a country that supposed to be a home for the free and the brave.

Of course the kid was wrong doing what he did but to beat him up is uncalled for and not deserved.

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Regarding the Iraqi situation:

That shouldn't have happend, war brings out the worst in people but that is not an argument to justify what these soldiers have done.
It's an act of crime and not of war.

 

If I threw rocks at armed men who have flown thousands of miles away from their families to help my country and have good intentions, I would expect to take a few punches. I don't support it, but I understand it.

 

How about the guy they beat to death and then filmed kicking him in the face after he was dead? Do you understand that to?