Alex Doyle Associates

Plenty of spelling mistakes too. Guess we'll have to make this thread rank for 'ADM Group', 'Alex Doyle Media Group', 'E-Commerce Online', 'E-Commerce Online Business Solutions' and 'ecommerce online business solutions' as well. We could all chip in some coop weight to make this happen...

 

It says on the website that they (e-commerce Online) are part of the ADM Group, neither ADM Group, or e-commerce online are registered at companies house. They are answering the phone as ADM Group (Alex Doyle Media Group Limited is a bit of a mouthful I suppose). I called and asked to speak to Andrew Morris,and was told he was unavailable (nothing new there then!) so it is definately the same lot.

The thing is Andrew and Co have now made so many enemies that it is easy to follow the trail, you can run but you cannot hide.

 

Check out the alt text on the home page - too funny!

 

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Be careful that any references to ADM Group are clearly "Alex Doyle Media Group" or whomever they propose to be, as there are a number of legitimate ADM Group businesses/organisations listed in Google...

 

I'm amused by their 'guarenteed seo'. I suppose they can always say that it wasn't a guarantee when it all goes pear shaped. I see they are also plugging managing PPC programs for people...God forbid letting them run rampant with your Credit/Debit card

 

I would just like to add my name to the list of people who have been ripped off by Alex Doyle! I run a company called watchfromabox.com limited and we paid ADA £3500 + VAT in December last year....more fool us!

Before i did it i actually met with Andrew Morris twice and i have is mobile phone number.. what shall we do with that??

I also sent ADA a lawyers letter about 4 weeks ago but have since received a letter saying that they are in liquidation. Please count me in for any future action etc, i am now going to call e commerce online!

 

You're #29!

Welcome to DP even when it's for this unfortunate reason. I hope you get some positive out of this forum too whilst sorting your issues with them out.

Please read the entire thread and contact (best officially in writing) all relevant parties, from the GM Police to Watchdog and OFT. Moneyclaim gov uk is recommended too.

Then post in other threads so we can help get your sites out of the gutter (if that's where they still are).

 

thanks Tops30, good advice, i will get on to it!

 

while i am here... i am now using a different optimisation company who are ok!? does anybody know of a company that have a proven track record of getting first page rankings without breaking the search engine rules??

 

Here's a strange thing, I received a web report today from Rachael at ADA.
They obviously don't read them because it just confirms in black and white that the only results I have had have been from sponsored links I organised myself.
The question is though, if they have wound the company up, why are they sending out reports.
They still don't seem to be answering the phone.

 

Pete, they are not there anymore, they are now trading as e-commerce online at the following address and numbers. Andrew is on holiday until after new year

Orient House, 3 Mary Way (Off Newton Street)
Manchester, Hyde, Cheshire SK14 4RY
United Kingdom.

T +44(0)161 351 4747
F +44(0)161 351 4741
Email:

 

Twarsop, SEO is not rocket science, (unless you are in a really competitive arena) There is plenty of talent on the web that will help you get a headstart yourself. I would encourage anone to have a go, while using good solid resources for help. Then, if you get there fine, if not, then you will have learned enough to pick a good company and blow out the duffers.

Don't get hung up on just ranking, as this is only part of SEO/SEM you want to learn about usability (not accessability which it is now being referred to). Usability is the ease of which your site can be used. This means having a standardised navigation stystem, a good file structure, and nice clean clear information pages that guide your visitor to where you want them to go without them having to think 'what now'. Good usability will increase sales, and is in my experience a integral part of SEO/SEM. Everything that makes life easier for the visitor also makes life easier for the spiders. navi systems, sitemaps, clear titles, good descriptions, clean clear consise information that is topic specific on pages. So have a go yourself, but try not to wander to far from the good forums. I would say that there are only a handfull of good seo forums online. There are many many that people speak on as experts, but really they are just repeating what they have heard elsewhere.

On this forum, there are one or two like that (as there are everywhere), but there are many more who understand business, SEO/SEM, and willl correct any misinformation that is given out.

ADM - is this an acronym for 'Another Duff Manifestation'

or is it their team motto for client aquisition

ADM - Another Duped Mother****

Second thought, all good companies have a latin motto

'Aliusmodi Damno Neglectus' - this translates (roughly lol) as "another manifistation that will cause loss through neglect and disregard".

 

As you all know, Morris has risen again, Ecommerce Online (www.ecommerceonline.co.uk), (Pagerank:0; Alexa Rating: N/A). Notice that most of the hyperlinks in the left column don't work, such as "SEO articles by our experts". Keep pressing your credit card processors for a full refund for the ADA "work" done; credit card companies are quick to cotton onto rogue traders and you'll not only get your money back, they'll have their facility withdrawn in no time: send them a hyperlink to this thread and advise them of the new website he started.

 

The Fraud Squad, Trading Standards, BBC Watchdog and HSBC Card Services and First Data Corp who used to deal with ADA card transactions up until August have all been made aware of the current situation. First Data have told me that this is still an ongoing investigation. I am sure that other people have forwarded on information that they have to their card providers also. There is a group of over 30 of us that are exchanging information all the time, but not through this forum as much of it is sensitive and do not want to give Andrew Morris et al. an insight into what is going on.

Merry Christmas

 

Boosting search ranking is a *scam* - as simple as this.

J.D.

PS it's funny - their website (the one in the quote) is suspended... some company

 

To all who have had bad experiences with Alex Doyle, join the club. my problem started in Jan 04, i'm a relatively new internet company and i was sold on the promises that they could get my website to the NO.1 slot across all the search engines. I was sceptical, however they said that they would, as a special offer, only take 50% of the total bill and then the balance when i was satisfied with the work they had done. This i decided was a fair deal and so gave the go ahead. It wasn't until my credit card bill came through that i found they had taken the whole amount in one go. I immediatley phoned them to complain and was assured it had been taken in error and they would credit the extra taken. Well, surprise surprise, they never did. Not only have i never received my money back, i have never received any of the promised work. I have been in contact with my local Trading Standards who contacted the branch local to ADA's offices but as of yet nothing has come of it. To make matters worse, and this is something all of you who have been conned by ADA need to know, ADA in November took another payment from my credit card for the same amount as the original charge. I had not authorised this payment, there is no way i would, would i? They obviously keep everyones credit card details on file and make random charges as and when they feel like it. Everyone, please check you card bills for November and December to see if they have hit you again.

 

Hi Robin, if you look back through this thread you will see that quite a few of us were hit again with an unauthorised payment in October and November, I have managed to get mine back from my card provider. If you have not authorised this payment you should be able to get it back as well. You might not be so lucky with your initial payment as your card provider will probably see it as too long ago to do anything about it. The important thing is, has anyone had a payment taken after the date when they allegedly ceased trading?

 

http://www.ecommerceonline.co.uk/optimize_services.php

Quote from their website......

E-Commerce Online specializes in taking the load of Search Engine Optimization, Campaign Management and Customer Relationship Management for your website off your shoulders. With proven techniques that improve the coding of your websites whether static or dynamic, the proper strategies for search engine submission, workable adverstising campaigns, simplified marketing and business processes that everyone can understand help you claim your website ranking in top 10 positions on Search Engines as well as build and retain profitable traffic to your website.

Unquote.....

Well Gang what can we say to that...... What a load of B......t

ADM Grp of Manchester

 

I have just found the following website through googles webmaster pages. It says "If you feel you were deceived by an SEO in some way, you may want to report it." and it gives the following url for international complaints: econsumer.gov

I guess it is just another organisation that will have its hands tied but at least we can all continue to spread the word about ADA.