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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Klaas Koopman, Sep 14, 2005.

  1. #1
    Hi All,

    I finally figured out what my problem is...

    I am a webdesigner, and love to build sites, aka search for domains, then build and idea around a domain and design the layout for it. After that i'm always stuck. I get it coded and then i'm stuck. I just can't generate content!!!

    Which means not many visitors, which means not many hits, which means almost no money....

    Anyone has this problem, and perhaps some hints/ tips on this? I also tried paying people to create me content, but that's to expensive for me. I cannot continue doing this for to long or i'm out of money, which means no more hosting etc!

    What do you people suggest?

    Kind Regards,


    Klaas Koopman
     
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  2. tulip4heaven

    tulip4heaven Well-Known Member

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    Dear Klaas


    Did you try free articles on your sites for quality contents, i think free articles are available on every topic.

    Thanks
     
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    wanboll Banned

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    #3
    where can you get free articles from
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #4
    That's a flawed approach.

    Study some marketing. You base your moves on an interesting domain. You should base your decisions on what the market wants if you want serious traffic. The domain is only a small bit of the puzzle and comes almost last on the list of decisions to make for a website.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Totally in agreement, I never go after a domain name unless I already have a plan for a site then in the end I try to get a domain that matches the site I'm about to activate.

    Are you possibly also biting off more than you can chew as far as active running sites? Everyone gets coders block, but the more sites you run the easier it can occur. The only exception of this rule is you have block on one site you can easily move to another, but still to many and you'll have no time left to promote them or anything else for that matter.
     
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  6. tulip4heaven

    tulip4heaven Well-Known Member

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    #6
    search free articles on google , n you will find a lot

    Thanks
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Free articles are duplciate content which won't get indexed (very well) so you won;t get more traffic from it. They're only a resource for your existing traffic really. Only unique websites get proper traffic.
     
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  8. Klaas Koopman

    Klaas Koopman Well-Known Member

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    okay well I got 1 project, which I love to work on. And i'm being told that you should love the subject you are working on, so i'm on the right track.

    And free articles, i've thought of that, but still it TAKES A LOT OF TIME to add them to my website. And duplicate content isn't really what i'm looking for either... so what other options are there? I'm not a good writer myself so....
     
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    Sorry .. but when I saw your post tittle I though you had erectile dysfunction or something ..
     
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    LOL at iskander

    Yeh youhave got to love what your doing. i love the design aspect of it all. Making your site and that. Just have difficulty getting it in front of people me.
     
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  12. Klaas Koopman

    Klaas Koopman Well-Known Member

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    did you read the whole thread? I'm not looking for articles, I know where to get them...
     
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    #13
    Have you considered trying to partner with others who can write content for you for specific sites of yours? You can pay others to write/research or agree on profit sharing, etc

    Another approach would be to try and get permissions from some other sites within the field you are interested in to include bits and pieces of their content on your site with links to the original sources in return? If you mix/organize your information better than the original content providers, users might find your site more valuable, easier to navigate, etc. In the meantime you can start asking your site's users for content submissions for pay or other services.

    I realize that not everyone can produce quality content even if he/she is intrested in the topic. So, finding other ways to get original (or semi-original) content may be your best bet.
     
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  14. Klaas Koopman

    Klaas Koopman Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic Reply, thank you very much, I really appreciate it!

    I've tried to find people to write for me, but that costs like $5 per article of up to 500 words. Only got about $100 so I should really look closely where to spend my money on. And just 20 500words pages would not be the answer I think.

    I have come up with a small thing, and let's hope this turns out well. But your idea of mixing information others offer ( ofcourse ask before publishing ) might be an excellent idea to try out!

    Thank you very much again for that great reply! Exactly what I was looking for.

    Kind Regards,


    Klaas Koopman
     
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    Glad I was able to help. As far as $5 articles and your budget, a new site with 2 articles is better than a new site with no content. While you are sandboxed and have virtually no traffic, it makes very little sense to even worry about a lot of content. I would set your weekly budget for content providers (say $5-$10 a week, 1-2 articles) and adjust it as your revenue changes and based on other conditions. And as I mentioned before, ask for your users' content submissions at the footer of every article while the site is still shaping up.
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    And 20 quality articles on a focussed niche could be a very valuable resource, attracting natural links real easily. It could quickly be an authority, being easy to get directory listings for and all the rest.
     
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    Klaas Koopman Well-Known Member

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    #17
    i'm not working on a niche site.

    okay let's say I was doing the 10 weekly, that's $40 monthly. that means 8 articles a month, would that be enough at the start ( the site is there already for some while ) would I make enough out of ad's or something like that to support that every month?

    and the part of getting people to submit content to my website... tricky part. How would they submit? ( i'd have to buy an article submission service at my site )
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Buy? Learn PHP and you can code a simple form for free within hours.

    It doesn't have to be a content site btw, why not a service related site? That way with only a hand ful of pages you can get some serious traffic. Just takes a good ideas as oppose to the graft of writing.
     
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    okay now you are making me think, which is a good thing.

    I'm now at a MultiMedia class, which perhaps will teach me some php.

    but I also know how to design layouts ( people tend to tell me i'm quite okay with them ). So setting up a portfolio ( working on it ) would be nice, but ... i'm not sure, how would I make money with that, let's say besides the selling my services...
     
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    GADOOD Peon

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    So you pay for articles, and if you can't afford it, you raise the money. Go around your neighbours asking if you can wash their car because you're raising money for a project you're working on.

    Just utilize the articles well, there's enough information about the web on how to use them effectively for traffic.

    On the love issue: Bollocks, don't listen to people who say that. The money's too distant and uncertain and who says the topic you love pays well? I love blow jobs, but that doesn't suit AdSense nor will guiding girls on how to give good head make me any money, it'd just get me a lot of abuse from tetchy pent-up bitches who gnash away on the job.

    Attack niches that will pay well and you only need a trickle of traffic to make those dollars. That trickle can be gotten with articles, and will never go away. Search rankings will come as the bonus. They may not, it's irrelevant. I don't like to rely on search engine traffic but I fully SEO everything I do and it comes naturally after days, weeks, months. Immediate traffic comes from good articles, written by writers. This way you can re-coup your investment back in a shorter period of time - as much as weeks sometimes.

    Just love the success; you don't need to love maternity clothes or fertility drugs, you just need 10-20 articles syndicated on the topics pointing back to your website with a few more on to earn $5+ per day.

    People make this shit too hard for themselves. PAY for articles though. You want a simple system, so there's one with 2 high paying niches to boot. I don't care, there's hundreds of thousands.

    The irony is I'll sink more reds for this post then green, but that's 'cos some people pride themselves on breaking their balls working 24 hour days. Too bad so bad. Good luck, but don't say you can't afford articles. You can raise the money in many ways man. If you really want this Internet money it won't be difficult to get.

    Pete
     
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