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Am I violating the TOS?

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by Randombase, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. #1
    I'm really getting scared for being banned since I just reached 100$ and only started wondering after that if I'm actually violating the TOS with my ads placement..

    Can someone please see if this is violating the TOS or not?

    http://tinyurl.com/6ecemc

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Randombase, Apr 29, 2008 IP
  2. zodiac

    zodiac Peon

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    #2
    yip.
    not only for adsense,but your also violating the TOS of custom search. ;)
     
    zodiac, Apr 30, 2008 IP
  3. Randombase

    Randombase Peon

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    #3
    I checked with the custom search TOS, and I think I fixed that now.

    Is it possible this page will ever be allowed by Google or is it impossible due to the music search nature? :(
     
    Randombase, May 1, 2008 IP
  4. newzone

    newzone Well-Known Member

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    not good, google custom search is very modified ? i saw a pop'up when i visited the site ... so , bad
     
    newzone, May 1, 2008 IP
  5. Randombase

    Randombase Peon

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    #5
    The popup is just a sponsor, it has nothing to do with google search itself. The entire page has been implemented into the mainpage design now, the popup is removed (didn't earn a thing, actually).

    I think there is no TOS violation anymore but correct me if I'm wrong, please :)
     
    Randombase, May 1, 2008 IP
  6. uski

    uski Peon

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    #6
    It looks like you have modified the Google custom search code or that you modified its behavior by adding external code and referring to its content.

    If I'm right, this is bad, really bad and will surely get you banned. Especially, you are not allow to modify the search terms.
    If I enter "this is my search terms" I get "-inurl:(htm|html|php) -inurl:randombase.com intitle:"index of" "last modified" "parent directory" description size (.mp3|.wma|.ogg) this is my search terms" as the search terms used.

    You ARE violating the Google Custom Search TOS.

    I'm sorry for you because it looks like that the whole concept of your website is around this modification... too bad :/
     
    uski, May 2, 2008 IP
  7. Randombase

    Randombase Peon

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    Hmm.. if I place text BEFORE the query is actually executed, and people only have to add their own terms, would it be allowed then?
     
    Randombase, May 2, 2008 IP
  8. uski

    uski Peon

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    #8
    Definitely not. I had a similar issue, I've been talking with the AdSense Support about this and exchanging many e-mail with them and they are very strict on this: they want the user to enter the search terms, and the search terms should not be altered or suggested in any way. Furthermore, any modification to the look or the way the Google Custom Search works is totally prohibited.

    Sorry :/

    [Edit] I'd like to add that I've seen a few websites violating these rules, just like your own, and these websites have been running for a while. However, they might have very low earnings and it is possible that the AdSense team did not review them so far. The danger is that if you start to earn some cash someone from the AdSense team might want to look at your website and discover the trick - they will cancel your account and you'll lose any earning they didn't give you. You can take the risk - but I think it's not worth it.
    I know I could earn a LOT more by using a similar trick but I prefer to have a secure lower income than a big income which might get me banned in 2 weeks. If I were you I wouldn't risk my account to be banned but it's up to you. I heard that some people are able to get another account by recreating an AdSense account using some blackhat techniques but you won't be able to use that new account on your domain anyway so it's really best not to get banned.

    You also have to think that someone might just tell Google that you are not following their TOS - this can be especially true if you have some competition or some angry users.
     
    uski, May 2, 2008 IP
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  9. Randombase

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    #9
    Now the page is completely rewritten, google search has been removed and replaced by a homemade search engine. Is it still in violation with the TOS of AdSense? The ads appear periodicly between search results.
     
    Randombase, May 3, 2008 IP
  10. Ckrismoney

    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    #10
    I didn't see it before but it looks good now.

    You could put another 468x60 in the right of the header ( thats a high click position ) to get more clicks as seen here

    Site looks good.
     
    Ckrismoney, May 3, 2008 IP
  11. uski

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    #11
    Heads up: I don't know how you did the homemade search engine, but if you are actually using Google as the underlying search engine then you are probably still violating the TOS.

    Per the AdSense Program Policies:
    "AdSense publishers are required to adhere to the webmaster quality guidelines posted at http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html."
    (and also, by the way: "Sites displaying Google ads may not include: [...] Any other content that is illegal, promotes illegal activity, or infringes on the legal rights of others")

    Per the Webmaster Quality Guidelines:
    "Don't send automated queries to Google."

    So I don't know how you do the search but be careful with that.
    The AdSense team might also respond negatively to your MP3 search engine if they find that it "promotes illegal activity".

    I might appear strict but I just want to make sure you are fully aware of every possible thing that Google might find as a reason to suspend your account.
     
    uski, May 4, 2008 IP
  12. nishugoyal

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    #12
    Recently on twitter I heard some site getting black listed because it was using Google search API .. and Google Adsense at the same time
     
    nishugoyal, May 4, 2008 IP
  13. Randombase

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    The search engine itself has nothing to do with Google.
     
    Randombase, May 4, 2008 IP
  14. uski

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    Then, in my opinion, you should be OK as long as Google does not consider that your page promotes illegal stuff.
     
    uski, May 4, 2008 IP
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    #15
    Agreed - as long as you are not using googles search engine nor modifying it or their code in any way - you should be ok.
     
    tenro1, May 8, 2008 IP
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    and why would that search violate google TOS, can someone get a proper explanation? Is it the model of the search book violating the terms or just the way the search results are shown?
     
    scutari, May 8, 2008 IP