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Any Devs Know of a White Label Video Share CMS / Advanced YouTube Clone

Discussion in 'Content Management' started by professionalseo, Aug 18, 2007.

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    Hi- I am new here. Been a longtime lurker for years but just joined to get some opinions from the developers among you for a couple new social networking myspace/youtube sites I want to make. Yeah, I know what you are going to say- "you too??" Well, the truth is that I had the idea for this 11 years ago before most people had ever heard of the net but did not have 100K to hire developers so I have missed out on the boat. On the upside, because of the success of these sites there are now so many developers coming out with solutions it brings the cost down to what a normal person can afford.

    I have looked at downloadable solutions like Clipshare, Altrasoft, Handshakes, PHPIbazi etc, and while the price is right, from my impressions they all have seemingly lackluster performance, dirty code, and really ugly layouts. Clipshare seems the least offensive but has hacking problems and has no real member functionality and is more a pure "youtube" site. There are 2 different sites I want to create- 1 strictly "youtube" site and another whose primary function is video sharing like youtube, but needs to have some member functionality as well like myspace where one can host blogs, add other members etc.

    Recently I have been looking to a more professional solution with "white label" companies that offer these solutions like Ning.com or Kickapps.com and I like the look and feel of these sites but the major drawback is that from my understanding you must redirect your site to thiers and 1 of the sites I am developing is already an active site with a PR of 5 ranking well in Google for a highly sought after keyword so that would disapear in a minute if I redirected my site to thiers unless I am misunderstanding the way these companies function.

    I have seen other white label providers that are quality but either they cost $10,000+ or bombard your site with ad's and links to thier site. I realize that it might be asking too much, but I would like to find a solution where I can pay a reasonable install fee ( up to $1,000 ) and maybe have some of thier ad's, but gradually as the site grows, be able to have that taper off by paying some sort of fee and remove thier branding.

    Ideally, I would like to find a solution that has the ability to offer content providers a revenue share like Revver.com does. I have looked into Revver and it is close to what I am looking for but thier financial structure for affiliate sites is 40% for them, 40% for the content creator and only 20% to the affilaite site (me) and I would rather pay an upfront fee, or some kind of "graduated" fee down the road as the site grows rather than a percentage in perpetuity and be able to share 50/50 between myself and the content creator.


    So my question boils down to this:

    1) Are there any downloadable solutions out there superior to ClipShare and Handshakes, and if so what are they?

    2) Failing that, can you recommend a white label solution that is not $5,000 - $10,000 and that I do not need to redirect my domain to, and that I can brand myself, without a "powered by" link?

    In other words- is there something in-between $299 for a piece of buggy crap and thousands of dollars?

    I realize all this is perhaps a lot to ask for and I have a lot of requirements, but I have thouroughly investigated the market so please dont tell me to just google "youtube clone" - been there, done that. LOL I see many threads looking for YouTube clones with all the same names, but none on white label solutions.

    Any input would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks-
     
    professionalseo, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  2. professionalseo

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    nothing ?
     
    professionalseo, Aug 19, 2007 IP
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    Waffleguy Well-Known Member

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    nothing. Sorry.
     
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  4. professionalseo

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    Hard to believe that on one of the biggest webmaster forums on the net, no one has any opinions on this?
     
    professionalseo, Aug 21, 2007 IP
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    #5
    I read your messages and think your going in the right direction.

    There are not really any white-label solutions available currently without a big price tag for what your needing.

    We are in development, but actually building what your needing. It will actually run on a monthly charge. $99 for what your needing up to $249 for extra features. This is for under 10,000 registered visitors. Higher packages available.

    We see the need for an affordable solution and we also see the future in video sharing sites, and have developed a solution for the need. It has the main features needed plus we have been building as many of the newest trends and video delivery methods into the solution.

    This is what your looking for! Not that everyday $299 crap! I will give them this, its not crap, nice software, but they are inferior to a custom software that is built for a different role in the online community software game.

    We have actually spent over a year building the apps, they started out as a simple Large BrightCove type player and has evolved into a full video sharing script, and now into a white label video sharing solution and video delivery solution.

    We have 30 days at least until we move to beta stage and take on a few invite only beta tester sites.

    Get back to me and I will give you the website address! :)

    When we go beta I will update this message and add address and features, just dont want alot of traffic for the next 30 days.

    Oh and we will have free services as well, with our advertising of course, but the poster here wasnt looking for that info so just left out til now.
     
    eyeblab, Aug 21, 2007 IP
  6. professionalseo

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    sure- would like to check it out- sent you a PM
     
    professionalseo, Aug 22, 2007 IP
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    Normally this is where i'd jump in and start screaming about have fantabulous my own script it; but from reading your post its clear you have a very clear goal, specific needs and are not looking at merely setting up a video sharing community.

    I am not aware of anything on the level of which you're looking for, and personally I think you'd be better served hiring someone to create this for you ; at least that way not only do you know you have a unique site, but you can be explicit in determining the features and functionality of the end product.

    I really do wish you all the best in this; in my opinion Revver are onto something with their video revenue sharing; and when youtube launch their version (if they haven't already done so without me noticing) then I envision it exploding, so nows the right time to get yourself in position to make the most of it.
     
    kingcaw, Aug 22, 2007 IP
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    Have been looking at phpmotion. This may or may not be a possible solution for you.

    I am interested in finding out if anyone has any experience with this youtube clone.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    4cornersusa.com, Aug 22, 2007 IP
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    i think there is no free cms which meets your criterias .

    you will need a custom cms
     
    trichnosis, Aug 23, 2007 IP
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    Hi,

    I have also been actively seeking some social networking software. Hosted solutions like Ning are non-starters for me, since I would be at the mercy of the provider. They could change their relationship at any time, and I would have not control. Building from scratch is also a non-starter since social networking sites are very tricky and I wouldn't want to throw too much money at a solution until I know the cost of running it - money as well as stress from spam, porn, etc.. So I reasonable budget solution with an ongoing licensing scheme would work O.K with me, as long as I get support and I can control my costs.

    Rich
     
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    Hi guys, thanks so much for your comments. Kingcaw- I wish I had the money to hire a programmer, but if I did, you would be speaking to a Billionare because I WOULD BE YouTube- I had the idea for this like I said 10+ years ago when I told people that the net would be used for this and people literally laughed at me. It is only now that they have been so successful that so many companies have seen this and are creating scripts for the masses that I even have a chance to get in the game now. Thanks very much for your kind wishes.

    4corners- yes, I have looked at them- I think they are a good looking solution for something a little lower-end which was basically my question. it seems like these companies are broken down between someone charging $10,000 and a crummy you tube ripoff script for 50 bucks- I am trying to find a sweet spot somewhere in the middle.

    Rich- yes I looked at Ning but you are totally at thier mercy and I never intend to sell, but if I ever wanted to I think it would be near impossible to do that using something like Ning + when ppl join your site they are part of the "Ning Network" so theres no uniqueness factor at all, which makes it impossible to "brand"

    Thanks again for your thoughts- if anyone else has any opinions I would be very appreciative.
     
    professionalseo, Aug 25, 2007 IP
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    Have you looked into rayzz.net?
     
    TargetedClix, Aug 26, 2007 IP
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    Hi Clix- yes, I have seen that one as well and dismissed it because thier site does'nt load all thier photos etc and looks halfway done so it scared me off but glad you posted it because I looked again at it and have to put it back in contention as a possibility since I am getting desperate for something at this point. Regards-
     
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    Any idea of what something like that would cost? Ballpark?
     
    professionalseo, Sep 8, 2007 IP
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    as you know lots of the clones have issues, it sounds like I am doing something similar to you but mine is very niche.

    I have gone through exactly the same process and providers and have reached one conclusion.

    Drupal

    This and other CMS have so many different plugins I think you can get what you want and the codes tend to be good.

    **EDIT** Flixya.com is running off Drupal and is doing a revenue share, if I remember correctly it was set up by some Drupal Devs

    I wouldnt worry about the templates, as getting something you like wont cost big money.

    Not the easiest option but if your working to a restrictive budget it will get you well on your way
     
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    Hi Remo- thats interesting. Did not know flixya was Drupal. I tried them a couple years ago and did not care for it. One big issue with them is that I had to hand code all the thumbnails etc... all those clone scripts make it so when you upload a vid, you can grab a thumb right on the screen. Trying to format a thumb and size it perfectly so they were all consistently the exact same size really turned me off, but thanks for your input. Appreciate it.
     
    professionalseo, Sep 10, 2007 IP