1. Advertising
    y u no do it?

    Advertising (learn more)

    Advertise virtually anything here, with CPM banner ads, CPM email ads and CPC contextual links. You can target relevant areas of the site and show ads based on geographical location of the user if you wish.

    Starts at just $1 per CPM or $0.10 per CPC.

Capitalism... why so bad?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by zman, Sep 14, 2005.

  1. zman

    zman Peon

    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    180
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #41

    Man comes running towards you in civilian clothing with a weapon and will kill you as soon as he gets close enough. Do you need a trial to believe that he would have killed you if he were not stopped in time? :rolleyes:
     
    zman, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  2. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

    Messages:
    5,276
    Likes Received:
    230
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #42
    There is like massive bums in San Fransico when I lived there, I don't know if its still the same, but they used to have tent cities under the freeways, sometimes I used to wander around there at night, just to bug myself out
     
    ferret77, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  3. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

    Messages:
    5,276
    Likes Received:
    230
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #43
    what does this have to do with anything?

    the country is based on rule of law
     
    ferret77, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  4. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    25,924
    Likes Received:
    1,354
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    380
    #44
    It's getting worse and worse. Downtown is pretty much the worst I have ever been in. The smell of urin, masses of homeless, it is a disgrace. And there are so many organizations that pledge to help, but in reality everyone is benefitting financially pimping out the cause for donations that more or less wind up in their own pockets. (I've lived in SF from 2002-2004 and went back to visit after attending the San Jose SES - no hope for that town IMO).
     
    Blogmaster, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  5. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    25,924
    Likes Received:
    1,354
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    380
    #45
    I don't see where capitalism is the cause. It's the @$$holes that abuse it ...
     
    Blogmaster, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  6. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #46
    If you make up things, you should not put it as quote, if you use quote then don't change it. Do you think Hamilton and Constitution is blah blah blah? :confused:

    The court case was about a week ago and it is wrong and against American tradition and constitution. What are you trying to say, do you agree with Constitution or do you think that government should have the power to arbitrary imprison people for indefinite time?
     
    gworld, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  7. zman

    zman Peon

    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    180
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #47
    Not the case. The Geneva convention does not apply to those not in military uniform.

    So, back on topic... :p
     
    zman, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  8. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

    Messages:
    5,276
    Likes Received:
    230
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #48
    the home prices there have gone thru the roof, I am surpised that there isn't more pressure to drive the homeless out ...

    like market street at night there would be rows of sleeping bags just laid out all over the place
     
    ferret77, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  9. zman

    zman Peon

    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    180
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #49
    Totally. And any system is going to be abused.
     
    zman, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #50
    Like ferret said what this got to with anything?
    How about bank robbers or suspected bank robbers should we wait for them to rob a bank again or should we just shoot and kill them in street. How about suspected murderers, should we just put them in prison without proving that they actually killed someone? How about if they suspect you of cheating on your taxes, why should we waste money on courts, won't be simpler to shoot you or put you in prison for ever to make sure you won't cheat on your taxes?
    I hope this helps you to see how crazy your posting is. ;)
     
    gworld, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  11. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #51
    If someone is civilian then civil court rules should apply, or do you want a society that there is no laws? :p

    You are also wrong as usual, the Geneva convention applies to those who are not in military uniform.
     
    gworld, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  12. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

    Messages:
    5,276
    Likes Received:
    230
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #52
    there is a whole culture based entirely profit with no ethics that is an off shoot of capitalism. That I think causes problems.

    The company that will dump toxic chemicals , with no thought of the consequences, other then saving a few bucks

    The buying of influence from the government, basically buying laws to help certain companies or industries, the buying of subsidies .

    Like the energy bill that just went thru congress, if you guys are really into free market capitalism then you should really be against subsidies right?

    from the washington post

    Thats $85 Billion of OUR tax dollars going to companies that are making record profits.
     
    ferret77, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  13. Hodgedup

    Hodgedup Notable Member

    Messages:
    3,962
    Likes Received:
    287
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    203
    #53

    I wasn’t making stuff up I was paraphrasing because you always say the same thing.

    No I don’t think the Constitution or Hamilton is blah blah blah. I can understand where you would be confused. It’s because you’re an idiot. I’m saying you talking about Hamilton and the Constitution is blah blah blah. See the difference?


    Actually I’m not trying to say either. I quoted this.

    Because you say you never bash America. You’re having a hard time understanding things because to you everything comes down to a choice between two things. I think two things are the most you can handle at one time. That’s how you always make your arguments.

    ;)
     
    Hodgedup, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  14. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #54
    The problem is you are not saying anything, can it be because you have nothing to say?
    You just quote me and say that I am wrong without giving any reason or state what is your opinion. It is a simple question that you can answer with yes or no. Please, please give us your answer, opinion and the logic behind it.

    Do you think that government should have the power to arbitrary imprison people for indefinite time?
     
    gworld, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  15. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    25,924
    Likes Received:
    1,354
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    380
    #55
    Gworld, you should move to China for a couple of years and see what it's like to live in a society where you have rules on how to wipe your ass correctly ;)
     
    Blogmaster, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  16. zman

    zman Peon

    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    180
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #56
    hmmm... seems to go along with what I stating. But what do I know? As usual, I am wrong right? :rolleyes:

    Go ahead, continue avoiding the topic of this thread and continue to defend your terror buddies.
     
    zman, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  17. Hodgedup

    Hodgedup Notable Member

    Messages:
    3,962
    Likes Received:
    287
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    203
    #57
    Wow. You are incredibly stupid. Once again I am saying something. You said you don’t bash America. I’ve now pointed it out that you do again and again. Yet you can’t admit it. What I’m saying is you are a hypocrite. The thing is you got caught and called out. Instead of admitting that yes you bash America you try to run and turn the debate back to the government.
     
    Hodgedup, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  18. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    25,924
    Likes Received:
    1,354
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    380
    #58
    City is run by a very liberal government. They actually hand out a lot of welfare money, but the problem is housing. I used to pay $900.00/month for a tiny studio apartment.
     
    Blogmaster, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  19. zman

    zman Peon

    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    180
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #59
    To attempt to get back on topic, do you agree that Capitalism is not at fault here?
     
    zman, Sep 16, 2005 IP
  20. Henny

    Henny Peon

    Messages:
    2,118
    Likes Received:
    241
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #60
    Capitalism is never at fault, the restrictions placed upon capitalism are what is at fault.
     
    Henny, Sep 16, 2005 IP