Damn... conservatives won...

How about children in mixed marriage, can you imagine having a mixed couple when the dad or mom is black and going to school in southern state, how would the child like to hear all the time that his mother or father is a dirty "Nig*er"?
How about when the mom is too short and fat, how would the child feel about other children calling his mom, fat midget?
How about when the one of parents has a physical handicap? How about a child a Arab Muslim child in white Christian school or a Jew orthodox child with a their long hair?

Should we stop anybody who is not of right color, religion or perfect physical characteristic from having children because the child can be bullied in school?
If a child gets bullied, the problem is not about gay parents, mixed racial parents or parents with wrong religion or physical shape. The problem is about parents who teach their children to bully others and school systems that tolerate bullies. Let's not further punish the victims who are getting bullied and instead start to punish those who are guilty of bullying others.

 

Any time man... Happy to make you comforable!

 

I about 10 words in, I am like... Where the hell is this going?

Friggin hillarious... Someone green this guy, I'm all out!

 

Oh, but that was not Canada's fault... They were importing that stuff from the US. LOL!!!!

 

Some very good points from everyone... well not everyone but the ones with good points.

And in my defence I've only seen one liberal commericial, and 4 conservative. I watched a few shows on the matter that weren't biased.

 

gworld wrote:

No, of course not but if the choice can be made to deny gays from adopting children then i am against gays adopting children.
A child born of a person of colour (black man/woman or chinese or whatever) in combination with someone of a person that does not match the colour of the partners skin is a natural result.
The same goes for religion - appearance.

It's the unnatural part that will cause the harresment and getting terrorized by children and environment since it is not accepted in society as a whole for the majority at least that gays can be parents by adoption.

I also think that gay parents are not a good environment for children to grow up in...a child needs female and male influence in his/her life.
Single parent children would very much like to have a mother or a father in their lives - it's this component that indicates that children very much like the dual parenting of different sexes in their lives.

This is my oppinion and surely others would see it otherwise but that is just me - i can tell with certainty that me as a child would not have liked it having same sex parents.

 

So in fact you are not very concerned about child being bullied since they can be bullied for other reasons related to their parents or may be because the child himself is fat, short, ugly or may be discovers that he is gay when he is a teenager and be bullied for that. Your argument about bullying was just an excuse.

The real reason according to you is because it is unnatural, not a good environment for the child and you won't like if if you were a child.

 

No it's not an excuse it is an argument that i have put forward.

Getting bullied because someone's parents are gay is bound to happen! the other causes you put forward can get bullied is a possibility! Also this leaves a less stigma on a child then having gay parents.

Having gay parents will cause far more harresment and getting terrorized then the causes you put forward.

 

You know, Gay Marriage has been around since 1989 in Denmark and there has been no problems at all.

 

I believe that gay marriage should be just as legal as heterosexual marriage. Which is to say, I do not believe that marriage should be any of the governments business.

If the couple wishes to sue each other, then it can go to the courts. Requesting the governments permission to marry is simply barbaric.

I have four straight friends going through divorces right now and government incompetence makes the process long, expensive and painful for everyone involved.

 

Taylor Hewitt wrote:

Don't know if this was a response to me but to clarify i don't see any problems with gay people getting married. I just am against gay people adopting children.

 

Sorry, they are allowed to adopt as well.

 

Do you have a scale that we can measure bulling, so we can decide how much bulling is OK and safe and how much is bad and dangerous?

I have a first hand experience of seeing a black guy getting a beating in Kansas because he was standing in a movie line with a white girl (1976), so according to you they should have passed a law that people from different races should not go to movie together.

If you are worried about bullying, children safety and mental health then advocate tougher actions and laws against bullying and do not use it as an excuse against gays.

 

gworld wrote:

I don't know what your trying to accomplish here but what you said quoted above is not been said nor implied by me!!

Bulling, harresment and being terrorized is not limited to school grounds, it's going to be a experience endured on all places of society.
And i agree with you that people would need to change their mentalities and stop bulling but this can't be stopped (at least not as much as you and i would like to), it will always exist unfortunately.

And even if there are laws about bulling and people will restrain from it then it would not be a cause for me to accept gays adopting children because of what i mentioned before.

And like i said it's not an excuse against gays it is an argument that i think is valid in todays society.

 

So if it society says its acceptable to be gay then it should be ok to adopt.

What about San Fransico , in half of San Fransico it totally acceptable to gay, and there are parts where its common to be discrimnated against if you are straight.

So by your argument you would support gay adoption if the people live in the Castro, or Maybe in provincetown?

 

ferret77

Please read what i posted before as i really don't like to repeat myself.

 

You are right but this is the logical conclusions of your argument. People who bully or are racists are not in fault, instead we should stop what ever that they don't like or agree with. We should not stop people from bullying a fat child, after all fat people are unpopular in most places, we should send the fat people to diet farm so they can be thin.
We should not stop bulling, educate and punish bullies and instead punish gay people for wanting to have children.

 

gworld wrote:

That's not logical.

Like i said before even if bulling was not the reason for denying gays to adopt children i still considder it as not acceptable since every child wants to have a father and a mother.....and not two fathers or two mothers!

Being fat is not a choice, so this type of bulling can not be prevented unfortunately.
Bulling towards gay adopted children can be prevented as long as gays are denied to have this right.

It's not the way a family should consist of. A family should consist of a mother and a father.

 

I would say being fat is more of choice then being gay, don't you think?