Damn... conservatives won...

Your ripping things out of context here ferret77.

edz wrote:

 

The truth will set you free.

As I said before your concern is not about the child or bulling, it is just simply the fact that it makes YOU feel uncomfortable.

 

No it's not, A family should consist of a mother and father for the sake of the child.

To let a child be raised in an environment that it needs...a motherly influence and a fatherly influence!!

 

I agree. It's because it makes people uncomfortable. Half the time kids are an excuse.

Bullying is spelled with a 'y' by the way.

And I doubt somebody will be made fun of at age 35 for having gay parents they don't even live with so yes bullying is limited to school for that sort of thing.

 

And fat people have the choice to try and lose weight. You can't just stop being gay...

 

Yes to try

I should have put it this way

Being fat is not always a choice, so this type of bulling can not be prevented unfortunately.
Bulling towards gay adopted children can be prevented as long as gays are denied to have this right.

...so i didn't have to get into this as well.

 

Edz,

Have you ever experienced bullying against adopted by gay parents kids first hand?

 

So i should witness it first hand or else i am not being able to say that this will certainly happen?

 

I'm just saying that this sort of thing is new to the world so I don't see why we're all assuming they will be "terrorized". Yeah Kids tease and are jerks about things but there is nothing to suggest that they will pick on people with gay parents more than an obese ugly chinese person with braces and spews spit when they talk.

 

Here's my unrefutable (tongue in cheek) argument not against, gay marriage, but for the right to ban it. But it also works the other way too.

1. Two people can enter into any consenting contract.
2. Society, through the legislative process, can choose to promote certain types of behavior through non-restrictive laws; i.e. tax abatements for businesses, welfare for those in need etc.
2. Marriage is a specific type of contract recognized by society and given certain incentives and various legal responsibilities through the legislative process in order to promote a certain type of behavior.
3. Therefore, society has the right to either promote, through recognition, or to not promote it, by not recognizing it, if it doesn't fulfill whatever obligations the society deems it should have in order to be promoted.

So if society decides marriage is between two dudes, then they can do so. Obviously it's only about promoting a certain type of behavior, as two guys are perfectly able to enter into any private contract that they'd like. I think in the United States at least, it is mostly about social recognition, as it would be very easy to get the things that homosexual couples want in order to be happy without calling it marriage.

 

I'm not exactly sure which side you are on allthewhile... not implying that we are on opposite sides but it kind of confused me lol...

 

Here we go again...

 

Personally, I think that homosexual behavior is destructive, and that is why I would vote against the recognition of gay marriage: I don't want to promote that lifestyle. However, I recognize that within the government, marriage is nothing more than SOCIETY recognizing a relationship and giving it certain privalidges and even certain responsibilities.

I mainly just hate the argument "Let people do what they want to do in private." Gay marriage is NOT about what people do in private. That would be an anti-sodomy law, which is another matter. Marriage is specifically a SOCIAL recognition of a particular private contract. In a way, society is even part of the contract.

In the United States, at least, marriage is not a "right". Unless it's a "right" that individual states choose to recognize. Federally, there's not a drop of a right for STRAIGHT or GAY couples. Should there be a constitutional ammendment? I don't know. But it would make me much happier than judges or governors making up their own laws. But that goes for any issue.

 

Well let's not start the sodomy debate okay lol... straight couples have anal sex as well, remember that.

 

Just was in my userCP and saw this negative rep added "this isnt the place for ppl like u"... it's like the third negative rep for me participating in this thread...

People like me? You mean people who look at everybody as equal and believe that gay people are in fact, people?

 

Owned??? Slavery was abolished... Or, didn't you get the MEMO?
"Chocolate Smuggler"?

Your comments speak volumes about you.

 

That's EXACTLY what they mean. There are a lot of retarded cowards here who anonymously red rep you for speaking your mind because they haven't the courage to tell you who they are. Just consider the source and the rep means nothing.

 

It wouldn't be abolished if Gtech had anything to say about it.

 

I have disagreed with GTech before so I guess that's what his timely post was all about. The funny thing is... I still had some respect for him before today. Not a lot, mind you, but still some. Who knows? Maybe some 13 year old kid hacked his forum password or something.

 

when ever you particpate in a debate with will.spencer, mia and gtech you can expect those to show up.