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Denver Kills ALL pitbulls...

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by yo-yo, Jul 21, 2005.

  1. #1
    The city of Denver is killing every pitbull they can. They've already killed more than 260 loved pitbulls taken from regular people that considered them family.

    This disgusts me. I really cannot believe how much ignorance and plain stupidity we still have in the U.S. , it makes me even more mad knowing the victims are innocent dogs that can't speak for themselves.

    I really hope karma comes around to all the people involved in this and my thoughts go out to anyone who loses their dog.

    BTW: I don't (and never have) owned a pitbull, but did have a german shephard for the first 17 years of my life and can tell you that a dog is a beloved part of your family and your life.

    Im so mad I actually feel like going to Denver and.... :mad:


    Reference:
    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050721/ap_on_re_us/denver_dog_ban_11

    http://www.detnews.com/2005/nation/0507/22/A06-254240.htm
     
    yo-yo, Jul 21, 2005 IP
  2. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    Really, they should get rid of all the children from Denver, perhaps moving them to camps outside the city, since they are most often bitten by dogs.
     
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  3. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if you're being sarcastic... but dog biting is uncommon and rare. And as a matter of fact, small breeds are MORE LIKELY to bite humans than large dogs. Large dogs like pitbulls and rotts get unfairly pin pointed by the media because.. well... the media sucks ass and doesn't care what they ruin or kill for good ratings.

    I suppose we should go around killing entire species of animals because a super small percentage hurt somebody?? :rolleyes:

    http://gprime.net/flash.php/thepitbullproblem

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  4. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    Of course I'm being sarcastic.
     
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  5. chris45

    chris45 Peon

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    that's is very insane for those people to do. can't they use their head and think of a better solution? you're the humans, you got the brains (supposing), please use them.
     
    chris45, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  6. Nintendo

    Nintendo ♬ King of da Wackos ♬

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    Remember this.....

    That would be :rolleyes: :rolleyes :
     
    Nintendo, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  7. Perrow

    Perrow Well-Known Member

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    #7
    I remember a brittish statistic quoted in a swedish newspaper some years ago that said that golden retrievers were most likely (statistically) to hurt people (or was it kids, might have been kids). What people need to remember is that they are domesticated carniovors and not toys. Most of us have at some time seen two dogs fight, hold that image and think if you would leave your child alone with any one of them? They might be the nicest dogs on the planet, but given the wrong signals theres no telling how they will react.

    Dogs might be, and should be, loved family members but you should always respect the fact that they are animals and react as such at most times. Often that is a good thing but not always.

    ps. Have no dog but want one. Have no kids but think I want to :D
     
    Perrow, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  8. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    Not that I agree with them killing the pitbulls, because not every dog is nuts, but I did see a pack of wild pitbulls tear a guys german shepard apart on a trail so I can see where they get their slanted view from- but lets get serious.
     
    schlottke, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  9. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    PS: A dog is a living creature just like us that reacts to situations and makes decisions based on passed experiences.

    If you treat a dog like it should be, and you give it all the love it deserves, it will give you back 10x that amount and be more loyal to you than any person ever could be. And yes, I would without hesitation leave a dog alone with my children (if/when i have some). My german shephard attacked every dog he had the chance to (and did so b/c he was attacked as a puppy by a huge rott) but was the most gentle and loving anyone could be to every human. I slept with that dog at my feet from the time i was 3 years old until he died.

    If you treat a dog like nothing more than an "inferior" animal and you abuse it, what do you expect when it becomes mean and hurts somebody? It's only doing what you've taught it to do.

    In denver they are using this sort of logic: "a black person wearing red shot somebody and was a gang member, therefor all black people who wear red are dangerous gang members, we should put them all in prison".

    I don't know what the city in denver has been smoking (or more likely snorting) but they need to stop...
     
    yo-yo, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  10. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #10
    You can't blame (not saying you are) a an entire breed for what a tiny percent of them has done. I've seen a german shephard snap a guys arm like it was nothing. I've also seen tiny dogs attack old ladies.

    It has nothing to do with the breed.. it's all about how the dog is raised and treated.
     
    yo-yo, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  11. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    I totally agree, just describing why the media has such a slant- it does seem pitbulls get a lot of badpress after all. (Dog fighting, etc)
     
    schlottke, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  12. Perrow

    Perrow Well-Known Member

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    That I do agree on (and most other things you've said). I would probably leave my kids with my dog as well, but I would do it after considering what child and what dog and knowing that if anything happened I was to blame.
     
    Perrow, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  13. Perrow

    Perrow Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Being a fan of large dogs one of my favorite sayings is "small dog, small brain". But I guess it's just that most owners of small dogs just don't care to train their dogs properly.
     
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  14. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #14
    Funny thing is since my german shephard passed a few years ago I've moved out on my own into an apt. Not knowing when a house is coming .. i cant get a large dog, so i settled for my favorite mini-dog a miniature pinscher.

    I've tried being strict with him (hes only 6 weeks so he needs training) about biting and chewing... he won't stop biting my hands and toes (most likely b/c he's teething) and I wont put up with it :eek: . He may be small but he's deff. going to have to learn to behave.

    I've taken him outside 3x a day and once in a while he'll try to run over to another person or dog (he's not on a leash) and before he gets 4 feet away i can say say "No puppy" and he'll immediately stop and come back :)


    Back on topic - I say we do something :confused: to show denver this can't stand. They're MURDERING innocent dogs that haven't done anything wrong except being born.
     
    yo-yo, Jul 22, 2005 IP
  15. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    Wankers...

    We had a rott - the best dog in the world ever...

    We called her wiggle bum because when she ran down the stairs she always waggled her tiny tail...

    Sooooooo cute!
     
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  16. e10

    e10 Well-Known Member

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    Dog´s like rotties and Presa Canaria´s are stolen here by thugs who take them for dog-fighting. Also they´ll steal a good looking pedigree bitch and just breed the poor thing into the ground so they can sell off the puppies.

    I disagree with what Denver is doing. I have always had dogs. My boxer Skye is the gentlest dog in the world and I am always having to rescue her from my 18 month old boy who pulls her ears, her muzzle and uses her back like a playground slide. For some peculiar reason, she loves that boy to bits too.

    BUT... pit bulls, rotties, german shepherds, dobermans and all the other big breeds are dangerous if treated badly or owned by some spotty, little hooligan who only has a dog like that because he has no balls of his own.

    There was talk here a while ago of introducing a special license to own one of these bigger breeds. Don´t you think that is a better idea than just culling a whole breed of dog because a few of its members have had some bad press?
     
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  17. SEbasic

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    It's about the way they are treated though.

    Any dog can become violent if it's been treakted badly by it's owners.

    Rotts and the rest are just victimised because they do more damage when they have been treated badly - it's just because they are so powerful.

    Licensing doesn't seem like a bad idea - how could you enforce it though...
     
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  18. e10

    e10 Well-Known Member

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    Yes any dog can be vicious if it is treated badly and it is the big dogs that are the most dangerous. That is why this special license was for big dogs.

    I don´t think it was ever enforced. I just remember reading about it and being annoyed that it was yet another bit of useless paperwork. But looking at it again in the light of what is happening in Denver, I´d rather pay a special fee to register a big dog than have her taken away and destroyed.

    Have you seen the Presa breed? They are huge but every one I have ever met haas been a big gentle giant. We had one living nearby who ate his owner´s staircase. He had to make it again in metal.

    http://www.thebreedsofdogs.com/PERRO_DE_PRESA_CANARIO.htm
     
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  19. Hodgedup

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    I agree with e10 on it's how the dogs are treated. A lot of people get big dogs to 'look and feel tougher'. There's actually a very good movie that illustrates this, Amores perros.

    As far as Denver. Wow. I can't believe they are doing this. I mean how many people are actually attacked by dogs in Denver every year? What about all of the people that die in car accidents, heart attacks, lung cancer. I guess they should ban cars, fast food, smoking.
     
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  20. debunked

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    It mostly has to do with the owners of the pitbulls, there are many in this city that have good owners, but a pitbull can be more easily trained to attack and kill than most dogs.

    I am not a dog lover, but I killing all pitbulls is not the answer, but maybe having a special licence for that dog to keep track of them?? I don't know, but I know I will kill any animal that attacks my kids, that I have no problem doing, but I also teach my kids to be careful and respectful to animals big or small, and if they pull on a tail, expect to be bitten.
     
    debunked, Jul 22, 2005 IP