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Did man really landed on the moon?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by melfan, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. vagrant

    vagrant Peon

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    #41
    I am not human either, i am an alien :)

    well so many tell me :d
     
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    #42
    Of course there is gravity on the Moon. Did you ever do physics in school?

    The Flag would have moved when it was placed into the ground. It is also hanging straight because there is a metal bar at the top of it, keeping the flag open.

    I don't really care if we actually did land on the moon. I just like to think that we did.
     
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  3. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #43
    Read R. Rene's book: NASA mooned America.

    They didn't land on the moon!

    Taken from http://www.primeline-america.com/moon-ldg/ :

    About the Author
    R. Rene "bright kid from the slums", skipped a grade in school and later became a self-taught structural and mechanical engineer and possesses two patents. a Mensan, he has produced a hundred controversial columns for various Mensa publications and has written 7 books.
    How to order
    Priced at $26, the book is available directly from the author:

    R. Rene
    31 Burgess Pl., Dept I
    Passaic, NJ 07055

    It is sent to you via U.S. "Priority Mail".

    Most compelling to me: See how the astronauts leave footprints in the dust but the lander's thrust (nasa tells you how many tonnes thrust it takes to land smootly) hasn't even trown up a single granule of dust. The only flag raised there was the BS flag.
     
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  4. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #44
    TOPS30, don't believe that crap, I can tell you for a fact, as sure as Hubble sent back photos to earth from the edge of the solar system, that we had many landings on the moon, not just one.

    Did you ever see the space station?

    Have you seen the Space Shuttles, did we blow those up and kill many of our astronauts to make great television?

    If the UK went to the moon would you believe it then?

    I live Florida and have seen Cape Canaveral, I seen with my own eyes the space Shuttle take off. I could see it from 100 miles away inland from Gainesville, FL. If you just seen the machines that move the space vehicles and the buildings at Port Canaveral, you would see that you are on the wrong side of the issue. Really it is a foolish issue, but since some of you want to hash it out, I am willing to present the truth to you.

    The author of the book you present is simply trying to make a few bucks and is telling lies.

    If you wish to believe that it is all right, we can still be friends at the end of the day.
     
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  5. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #45
    I know about all their reported moon trips.

    No and I'm sure there is one. I'm sure they send rockets up and I'm sure there is Hubble. Machines can easily go around space with current known (and hidden) technology. Humans can not. Certainly not with the Nasa suits they had during the first 'landing' with zipper flies like jeans of nowdays. Image the radiation leaking. Heard of the Van Allen belt? Heard of deadly radiation? Heard of boiling in the sun and freezing on the other side?

    No I haven't. No I don't believe they were blown up but I haven't researched myself which astronauts actually died (the columbia I mean) and what their history with Nasa was. I'm sure it was an accident due to neglected maintenance due to tight budgets.

    No. I'm not British anyway and the Brits can't even land a robot on a planet, let alone humanoids.

    You're a sharp person Anthony. Did yuo see the guy step out and walk on the moon? Yes they do take off and go into orbit. They do go to the space station whatever it's called to build their indeed military base eventually. But no they did not land on the moon because it is not an environment humanoids can live in. And at the time they didn't have the expertise/technology.

    Have you read the book? From his credentials the guy seems smart enough to me. Also if he did want the bucks he would have published it and sold higher numbers, even at lower commissions. Don't call Rene a liar if you haven't read his book and clear evidence. Not just his evidence but evidence from the official NASA archive contradicting the official story.

    We can indeed. I am surprised though you do think they landed there. But anyway, did you read that book? Have you asked people familiar with outer space radiation about the dangers? Have you questioned the official story? Especially the mission where they sent the scientists (not well trained astronauts) to the moon was a load of shite. How they were overshooting the re-rentrance line or whatever it was called and then that one guy (remember, a scientist who digs out rocks) manages to manually steer the shuttle back into that small margin of ideal angle and voila they land safely. And when they land in the middle of the ocean, only minutes after a narrow escape... All of a sudden there are camera teams in the middle of the ocean recording the landing. Quick boats huh?! And the antenna on the landing probe which just should have been burned off in the hemisphere is still on it blinking in the sun.

    Come on, even your president is more credible than that.
     
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  6. melfan

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    #46
    anthonycea, i just wanna ask you. why do you believe that man landed on the moon? are you one of the astronauts? Seeing the Cape Canaveral and space Shuttle take off is not a proof. I do believe that shuttle exist and they really can fly. but the question here is do the man landed on the moon and the answer is that they did not.
     
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  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #47
    No. The question is why are you wasting time, breath, blisters, and bandwidth on this nonsense?
     
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  8. anthonycea

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    #48
    We have missions in the future that will take men back to the moon, will you believe it next time or will that also be a fake landing?

    Both of you have seen space walks and the space station, but you still believe fiction that some writer or producer of a documentary produces.

    I remember watching Neil Armstrong on the ladder of the lunar lander (I was alive at the time, born 1959) taking a great amount of time to take the last step from the ladder on to the the surface of the moon. It must have took him 10 minutes to take that last step.

    Do you know why it took him so long to take that last step, he was scared to death, that's why.

    You guys need to get real and face facts, man can fly in space, there is nothing special about landing on the moon (we have landed on Mars).

    There will be new manned missions to the moon that will prove the false beliefs false.

    The rich seem to think that if they can place humans in space, then after WW3 destroys the human race here on earth, they then can bring these folks back from outer space to repopulate the earth again.

    Listen, it is all insanity, even the brightest of men are fools before God.
     
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  9. T0PS3O

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    #49
    You are still avoiding good evidence it can not be done.
     
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  10. minstrel

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    #50
    Yes, just as our ancestors were clever enough to ignore "good evidence" that:
    • the earth is flat
    • the earth is the centre of the universe
    • heavier than air flight is impossible
    • etc., etc.
     
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    #51
    Like I posted on the first page; just point the hubble at the moon, take some pictures of the equipment left up there and the CT will be vanquished. I'm not convinced that man has ever set foot on the moon, but I'm not convinced he hasn't as well. Simple photographic evidence will prove, without any reasonable doubt, whether or not the lunar landings ever occured. (Of course, then the CT will be that the hubble images will be photoshop'ed)

    Anyone have a really, really big telescope?

    btw, anybody who thinks there is no gravity on the moon is so far out of touch with reality, there's no chance of reasoning with him/her anyway.
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #52
    They once thought that you could not transplant a heart in a man, that you could not clone animals, that man could not fly.

    Tops, they want to run an elevator to the moon, with a cable that would run the full length.

    I can tell you that you are making a big deal out of nothing, they have landed on Mars, they want to do a manned Mars mission also.

    That they may never do, but going back to the moon will happen in your lifetime.

    If it happens while you are alive you will believe it, I seen it many times with my own eyes. I lived it and can tell you about it, you can choose to believe what you will.

    I am just presenting the truth to you, if you want to discard it, that is your choice.

    You have to realize that this was all done in baby steps, first John Glenn had to get into orbit in outer space. The moon landings were after many tests of the rockets and re-entry heat shields and of the effects of gravity and so on.

    Do you think that the millions of photos that exist of the moon were created in Hollywood? There is not enough money in the world to create movie sets like that.
     
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    #53
    At least until Polystyrene was invented ;) J/K
     
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    #54
    hehe, so true :)
     
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    #55
    You can stop making silly comparisons, I know what has ben said, what can be done and what can't (at least on the subjects i have studied).

    I've got some funny wants and needs too.

    I'm not making any great deal at all. Yes machines have landed on Mars and will again too. People one day will probably land on Mars and the moon too. Pitty they haven't yet. Would be nice to know how it is out there. The only thing that pisses me off in this thread is people telling their opinions (which is fine) but then ridicule others whilst they have not got a clue what is involved in actually accomplishing it (back then - makes it even harder). Don't tell me what to believe. i believe what I know, not what I have seen. The only evidence so far you have come up with Anthony is that you saw it on telly, and that you heard they did. Compelling!

    Yes, but not back. They probably will go. Heck, I might check it out myself once I got the bucks to go there safely.

    I shall not believe it if it is just on TV. I need scientific proof.

    Now you make me laugh. you haven't presented anything to me. That Rene guy at least took the effort to present some decent facts. You haven't showed me nada. So yes, i'll happily discard the nothing you showed me. Just like I'll discard the guy with the funny beard's comments.

    I do realize that, like i said before, I have done my homework.

    Those few foto's are indeed from holywood's Nevada wing.

    Now i'm going to stop making comments until i see a post of someone who bothered to do some reading. I am open to good evidence saying they did land on the moon. Show me. TV footage and news paper articles don't count. Rocks from the moon can get here from meteorites. Start with an attempt to crush Rene's evidence.
     
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    #56
    TOPS, too bad that I had to watch on Television, I should have rode along.

    I seen Led Zeppelin on TV also, does that mean that Robert Plant really was not on stage singing his ass off, was Jimmy Page an illusion of Hollywood also, or were the licks he was playing something he authored?

    I did listen to a few records and enjoy the hell out of the music in my living room, but since they did not set up the stage in my home, am I to believe that Led Zeppelin did not exist.

    You were not there when God created the heavens and the earth, but do you believe that they were created by an intelligent being, or did the universe just happen because it decided to happen?

    Do two flies mate and evolve in to a lions, becoming king of the beasts because they got tired of eating shit?
     
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    #57
    http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/history/apollo/flight-summary.htm


    Tops, I left the above link all ready in this thread, so I have bothered to read, if you wish to believe some guy from New Jersey over Billions of Dollars worth of Research and Exploration that is your business.

    Again, there are many photos to study if you wish, that were taken by man of man on the surface of the moon.

    You do not have to hold those as real if you wish not to.
     
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    #58
    Show some independent evidence. Show evidence that can smash Rene's to pieces.
     
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    #59
    Anthonycea, can you prove, without a shred of doubt, that man landed on the moon? No. Tops, can you prove, without a shred of doubt, that man did not land on the moon? No. Until we have definitive proof either way, you two can flame each other from now till eternity.
     
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    #60
    http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/captions/apollo11.htm


    As far as independent evidence, no one but NASA was there, so if you are depending on an author from NJ that is trying to become a multi-millionaire from self publishing a book, then you are the one that needs to think here.

    The above link is a photo index from a search result, do your own research, but if you are going to depend on someone who never stepped in a space suit for information your research is flawed and so is his.
     
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