Did man really landed on the moon?

First off, Tops and I are friends, so we do not consider a debate something that will change that.

We are not flaming each other, I can take whatever he puts my way, he can also debate fairly.

Unless we put both of you in a Space Shuttle and scare the shit out of both of you, neither will believe anything.

Since we can not do that, you must depend on research that is available online, do your own research.

By the sound of what is going on in this thread, some folks have years worth of research to do on the subject.

Next, Tops view is good for the space program, they need to do another moon landing for this generation.

In the 1960's we had so much going on (space missions) that we knew without a doubt that it happened, you guys need to go back and look at the real time videos that were made.

 

Anthonycea, what part of "I'm not convinced either way" didn't you understand. You don't have any proof, and can't present any evidence that states unequivocally "we landed on the moon". It's just not there. Just as there is not any evidence to state unequivocally that we did not land on the moon. Once again, how many times do I have to state the obvious - take a picture of the moon where the capsule landed. The equipment and the evidence should still be there if we did set foot on the moon. It's that freaking simple. No conjecture, no preponderance of the evidence. Unequivocal proof. Plain and simple.

 

http://stipo.larc.nasa.gov/nix_collections/


Do your own search for photos, the link is above.

If they shot you to the moon and left you there would you believe then.

How do you explain the hours of video shot from the moon with views of the earth?

How do you explain the landings and re-entry of the space ships back to earth?

You prove that it never happened is a better question?

 

So does this mean that just because you see it, you belive it? Whoopie Doody. So someone has photos of this and that. Big farking deal. PROVE (the key word you seem to be missing) that they are real. YOU CAN'T. Once again, you are assuming they are real and trying to develop a preponderance of the evidence to justify your assumption/belief.

I don't have anything to prove. WHAT PART OF "I'M NOT CONVINCED EITHER WAY" don't you understand. Are you that dense. For crying out loud. WAKE UP!!!!

 

Read this thread

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=3086

Disprove that, all we have are photos and videos.

 

This is a lost cause. Either you're not reading what I've written or you are unable to comprehend what I've communicated. Maybe both.

I have nothing to prove. Those that believe one way or the other are the ones who must provide the proof. Show Me.

 

Prove to me that you make fire trucks, I will not believe it by your website or photos, even if you give me complete specifications and references.

If you send me a video of your manufacturing plant with you and your family sitting on one of the trucks I still will not believe it.

If you call me on a cell phone while a live broadcast shows you riding in the truck across town I still will not believe it.

I must ride on the truck before I will believe that you make the truck, I want to see you screw in every nut and bolt and watch you manufacture the truck before I will completely believe that you make fire trucks.

How much more clear can I make this picture.

You do make fire trucks, RIGHT?

 

This is a little bit of a stalemate don't you think guys.

OK, So Mopac isn't sure whether we have actually been on the moon, Anthony is, while TOPS is sure that we were never there.

Well I can tell you guys that I have been to the moon and the views are great.

I built the Rocket out of old cardboard boxes in my back garden (Yard).

Will you believe that?

No - Because I can't prove it.

WIll you believe that I once lived an entire year without more than 24 hours of it being sober, no. Because I can't prove it.

People believe what they want to believe. If they like the sound of it, then they'll go with it.

Just relax guys. One day soon someone will go to the moon (AGAIN?!?!?), then we can watch the video all over again, and judge for ourself.

One thing is for sure though - What with CGI and all that, we will never know the truth (Except for me because I have been there )

 

Well said. Now about that carboad rocket...

 

How do you explain the landing?

More specific, how do you explain the lack of a crater where there are footsteps? Just anwer that. Come on, please... How is it possible.

ANSWER IT!

(A forum community wouldn't be fun if we all agreed, stalemates are good fun too, especially when the other one is wrong :d )

 

Wacko Jacko was never a black guy, he was always a white guy, can you prove he was a black man at one time.

PROVE IT!

 

Well, one of you is wrong... There can be only one...

 

I don't recall any time in the past that I was black

 

Anthony (and others).

Try and disprove these 10 killer points:

http://www.moonmovie.com/10things.html

Some of these like the first two might be debatable, but without asking me stupid counter questions about wacko, Elvis etc. be a man and try and disprove these.

 

Some more good points: http://www.moonmovie.com/15things.html

This site is a bit amateuristic to my own admission, but Rene has all these topics covered with solid scientific research, evidence and proof and what else you might need to be convinced...

 

Rene is full of shit.

 

We have one extreme trying to disprove another extreme. I don't buy into the flag waving issue. The entire time the flag is moving, the astronaut is holding the flag pole which could easily cause the motion we see. The other problem I have is with some of the inferences made to the lighting. The shadows are definitely a problem. However, the astronaut who is illuminated while in the shadow of the lunar module is perfectly plausible. After all, light scatters when it is reflected off of an irregular surface. It's very easy to explain the reflected light we see in the photos. The CT crowd goes to just as many extreme lengths to get you to believe them as the gov goes to getting you to believe their version. Still comes down to taking a picture of the moon and proving the lunar landers are up there. It can't get more simple than that.

 

I believe ya! I spent 29 years of my life without going more than 24 hours of itbeing sober! It can be done.

Just ask my mommy!

 

For sake of completeness here are some some links Athony should have come up with that disprove what disbelievers think:

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did we land on the Moon.htm

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/iangoddard/moon01.htm

Yes they shatter a few, but not the most important ones. Good read though.

 

Take a picture of the moon to prove that we were there..........

So live video of Neil Armstrong stepping on the moon is not enough for you.

There are hundreds of hours of video, there are thousands of photos, go study them then come back and talk.

I do not believe that the Beatles were a rock band, this was all an illusion to take the kids minds off of the Nixon administration and the space landings on the moon.

We would not want folks looking closely at a bunch of fake moon missions, so the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix and dope and Woodstock were faked to take our minds off of the fake moon missions.

The revolution against the British at Boston Harbor was a hoax, this never happened, it was faked by the Brit's because they did not want the responsibility of managing such a far off land.

They figured it better to set up a false government like the one we have in Iraq so they could rule by proxy. Do not believe those stories about America being an independent country.