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Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by jonas18, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. jonas18

    jonas18 Well-Known Member

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    cause things don't create by themselves. Tell one thing you heard or know that was created or born out of nowhere since you been on this planet?
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    Sarah Palin.
     
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    imad Peon

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    #43
    so? common sense you mean?

    what you say, is called cause and effect, some may take this and apply it on God too, by asking: who created God?

    how can you solve this?
     
    imad, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    jonas18 Well-Known Member

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    She is human. Meaning she was given birth by a other human being...nice try thou.;)
     
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    jonas18 Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I would love to know the answer for this.
     
    jonas18, Jul 28, 2009 IP
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    imad Peon

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    #46
    The question is invalid, because it gives the adjective of creator, and creature, to God, when God is a creator, and not a creature,

    but even though this question is invalid, it has been asked over and over, since ancient history, and it comes, from that belief in we did not come from nowhere, the same belief been there since so long, people found it very easy to know that we did not come from nowhere.

    Despite this knowledge been there in the beginning, later generations lost the way, and they found themselves doing what their fathers used to do, without understanding why?

    They found it hard then to know who started all of this, how does he look like? where is he? among so many other questions, they put theories, and in many cases these theories been followed as the undoubted truth by many, and this led to worshiping Sun, Moon, Nile, other human beings, cows..etc from there, the so many gods you asked about came, man, created many gods, but God who created man, is one.

    Some said Sun is our God, and they worshiped it, but when their knowledge increased and they found that Sun is a creature that follows some laws, and these laws must be founded by someone else than the Sun itself, they gave up worshiping sun, some went to the extreme and said there is no God, when they meant to say Sun can't be a God, and this because for so long they attached the image of God with the Sun, and found it hard to give it up.

    God has no image, and there is nothing like him, he is not a male, and not a female, he is not a part of the universe, and the universe and everything in it, is his creatures.

    would not make sense to put God under the law of cause and effect, when he is the one who created this law and many others, our part was to discover this law, and give it a name.

    an example to make it closer to the mind, is puppets, and the puppeteer:

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    for people watching, assuming they are not so smart, some might say, these puppets move alone by themselves, nobody is moving them, in fact, this is what the person see with his limited sense of vision.

    some others who are little more smart, would say, these puppets do not move alone, somebody is moving them, let's call him puppeteer.

    the first group would then tell them, impossible! if that is true, then who is moving the puppeteer?
     
    imad, Jul 29, 2009 IP
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    #47
    Thanks for the insight into the ignorance and idiocy much of the world lives in.

    p.s. When you can't answer a question that does not make it invalid, it makes your arguments in support of Allah invalid. Nice try, but lies and misdirection wont get you far here.
     
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    imad Peon

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    #48
    want to share in the discussion BT? feel free to post your opinion, and why do you see this as ignorance, and idiocy, mind if you provided the knowledge that will remove that ignorance?

    P.S.: I understood that you do not understand what is the meaning of an invalid question, an example of an invalid question is: why does browntwn always hide his tail? got the idea? unless if you really have a tail, then the question is invalid, same when you ask who created the creator, there is a mix between the creator, and the creature.
     
    imad, Jul 29, 2009 IP