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Free Zone Alarm, Free AVG, and Free Ad-Aware

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by websiteideas, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. demonsnakeyes

    demonsnakeyes Guest

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    #41
    Thanks minstrel! i've been looking for this kind of info! :)
     
    demonsnakeyes, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #42
    Demonsnakeeyes, that was just an example. I don't necessarily agree with all of the PC World conclusions. What I'm suggesting is read a few and try a few and make up your own mind.

    See these additional antivirus software reviews, especially Top 10 Reviews where all 10 are listed as equally affective and in that opinion AVG outranks NOD32 for updates; and this review from CNET.
     
    minstrel, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  3. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #43
    True True of course it's only a opinion but when a succesfull computer criminal exposes how bad AVG performs i would not take this lightly ;)
    Many people think that when AV products such as AVG don't find anything there is nothing wrong but don't realize something is lurking in the background.

    And a lot of these review sites and especially the top ten website that has been posted is purely putting up test results that favour the company that gives the best money for advertising promotional efforts.
    That site holds no credibility whatso ever from what i recall from discussions on wilders security forum.
    Just to let you know ;)
     
    Edz, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  4. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #44
    :confused:

    I'm not going to the mats to defend "Top Ten Reviews" but are you seriously suggesting that "a successful computer criminal" is more credible than PC World, Ziff-Davis, or CNet?

    Also, I'd point out that Google has a long list of reviews here - read a few of your choice and make up your own mind. I'm not pushing any specific AV here. I'm not even actyally using AVG at the moment although from my own experience with it on other people's systems that is what I'll probably be installing when my current Norton AV subscription runs out.
     
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  5. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #45
    Would you suggest PC World, Ziff-Davis or CNet is more credible? Would you suggest that they know the inner workings and current development on exploits and capabilities of detecting Malware better then the criminal cyber criminals of today?

    I don't feel the need to defend review sites as well and i only wanted to point out the false representation of Top Ten Reviews. That's all ;)

    I'm glad AVG and Ewido are merging since this would for sure help strengthing the power of them both :)
     
    Edz, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  6. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #46
    Than an acknowledged (and caught) criminal? Someone who has proven he has no problem lying, cheating, stealing, etc.? Someone who has already demonstrated that he wouldn't allow a little thing like remorse, ethics, morality, right-and-wrong, etc., get in the way of something he felt would benefit him in some way personally? Or just something he felt like doing for the hell of it?

    Would I suggest PC World, Ziff-Davis or CNet is more credible (and trustworthy) than a man like that?

    Hell yes!
     
    minstrel, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  7. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #47
    Fortunately there are others that think otherwise ;)

    Major AV companies are present non-stop on hacker boards to know about the latest tricks and exploits and to know what is being done by cyber criminals to avoid their detection methods.

    Cyber criminals may not have any morals but when one opens up about their illicit practices it's wise to keep both ears and eyes open to know what the current events are like. And if they are caught or not is irrelevant since there can be many reasons behind their capture that does not affect the methods they used or others would still be using.

    Why am i telling this? What the heck does those editors at CNet know about the inner workings and practices about creating sophisticated rootkit based trojans and keyloggers/worms?

    Are those people on top of things like cyber criminals are? Hell no!

    The majority of Malware that is being created is created purely for profit and the traditional virusses that where created to merely crash a system or to perform some annoying occurence on a system is almost died out.

    Who do you think can secure your house better?
    A reformed burglar with decades of experience and that based his/her's livelyhood on his/her's illicit pratices?

    or

    The man in blue that portraits credebility and thrustworthiness and is the ''personification'' of proper morals?


    Morals is not an issue to be informed on the latest threats that you can be exposed to.

    To catch a criminal you have to think like a criminal...this also counts for not being a victim of a crime as well.
    Things aren't black and white and is surely not to be treated that way - not in the real world and also not in the cyber world.

    Something i see you are leaning towards to if you close yourself from this type of information and rather believe the ''man in blue'' is the one you should depend on to gain the knowledge to protect yourself.

    Stay open for opinions for both sides of the players in this game.
    Just my 2 cents ;)
     
    Edz, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Well, I'm not going to flog this to death, Edz.

    You like NOD32? Good. I'm happy for you. I like what I see of AVG.

    You think cyber criminals are more trustworthy than writers and reviewers for international magazines whose circulation and thus jobs depends on them providing accurate and useful information to their readers? Again, knock yourself out. I'll put my money on people who didn't make a career out of mischief and larceny myself.
     
    minstrel, Apr 26, 2006 IP
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    No problem Minstrel. For the record -- I don't put my complete trust on words of criminals but i am sure as hell not going to close up for their point of views.
    It's just another factor to the overall sum. :)
     
    Edz, Apr 26, 2006 IP
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    websiteideas Well-Known Member

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    #50
    Is anyone here so confident in their ability to monitor processes with task manager that they run their computer with no antivirus?
     
    websiteideas, May 2, 2006 IP