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Google's joke of the months - adsense on totally empty page and G accepts

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by hans, Sep 2, 2006.

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    when i surf the web i expect to find answers or solutions - real value content.
    when i ever click on any site's ads no matter what kind of ads
    i also expect useful information, services or products that help me in my life or work.

    recently I copied a few of my iste's advertisers and verified their sites

    http://www.heclick.com/

    was the last one of them

    heclick.com is an advertiser on my site - hence I wanted to know what value information, services or products this site offers to my site visitors
    and see:
    all entire site of this Google adword/adsense customer is 100% pure adsense only. every page zeor content - every page keyword combination on a number of precisely selected high traffic keywords in the title-meta-tag
    every single link seems to have the keywords the site most likely bids for adwords.
    absolute zero content of any kind
    every single link ( english links - i have no knowledge of the other language displayed ) leads to another similar page stuffed with maximum number of adsense.

    the joke is that Google is well aware of that site - it is one of the few i reported since i feel it is a disgrace to all www to have such adword/adsense sites oiut on the web!

    Google's bla bla response came quiet fast
    a reverificfation today shows that the site still runs exactly with zero content

    my personal conclusion hence is

    if you substantially contribute to Google's wealt you most likely can do whatever you want - there seems to be zero moral and zero ethic standard when it comes to making profits.

    zero content actually might be exagerated - each page has a keyword or keyword combination made most likely by hand in the META title tag. nothing more - nothing else. no site info, no contact info -an entire setup june 10 2006 just for the purpose of being and enjoying the life of an adsense site targetted by adwords from the web.

    do you have similar sites advertising on your site ??
     
    hans, Sep 2, 2006 IP
  2. blackpudding

    blackpudding Peon

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    I'm not so sure?

    Is it MFA or is it ART :D

    Cheers,
    BP
     
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  3. crazyryan

    crazyryan Well-Known Member

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    I think the site is banned now, the ads dont show.
     
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    itdevil Well-Known Member

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    nah, ads by google are still showing on the site... dont know why but they still are for me atleast
     
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    costy81gl Well-Known Member

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    The only one keyword is in the url.
     
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  6. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    there are no ads on the domain index page
    but if you click any of the pages of that domain yoiu see ads only - no single attempt to write even a title for a page - no attempt to autocreate some fake content
    just plain adsense ads and link ads - with knowledge of Google and hence apparently with Google's blessings as well ... it brings £$

    a person finding such a page has NO other way OUT of his frustration than to either close teh browser window OR click any of the ads to find what he was actually searching for at the very beginning of his www journey
     
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    I have at least seen 5 sites like that..
     
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  8. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    I think the Adwords landing page quality guidelines will hit people with sites like that pretty hard. In order to get traffic they will have to pay a much higher amount, making arbitrage less and less affordable for them.
     
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  9. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    on that site i haven't found any other pages with any content at all on the entrie domain
    hence adword langing page or no - entire domain is but made for adsense. such an entire domain is setup in less than an hour - then you sit back and google pays you out - for doing nothing but to deceive tghe world ...

    the question is how is he making money if he has zero content and hence zero natural traffic at all and has to pay for every visit he gets

    most likely by landing a page with low adwords price to a page with high adsense eCPM

    while Google accepts that site to qualify as adsense site as well as adword site

    what quality guidelines are you talking about ?? since G accepts that site - G apparently knowns of no quality guideline we might have in our own web publishing standards.

    Yahoo has clear TOS and this site would infringe at least against 3 or 4 points of Yahoo guidelines of ANY web site YPN or just content site.
     
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  10. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    The problem with Adsense is the huge amount of sites that are currently using Adsense ads. It's nearly impossible for Adsense to police each and every site unless it gets flagged in some way. If that happens it could also take quite a bit of time for them to finally get the site banned. By allowing you to use your Adsense code on any sites after you get approved, Google makes it easier for people to show ads on MFA and bad quality sites, by not reviewing each site that the publisher places the ads on.

    The site owner is most likely making use of arbitrage = bidding on low cost keywords, getting people to visit his pages, click on ads and go to another advertiser. Theoratically he then makes profit off of that visitor.

    Adwords recently introduced a quality penalty for Advertisers where, if they don't have a useful landing page, they will have to pay much higher minimum bids. See: Landing page quality
     
    Crusader, Sep 2, 2006 IP
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    But hans said the site was reported a few time but it still exists. I found another MFA:

    http://show.ads.googlepages.com/google.htm

    Let's see how long it take for Google to ban the publisher ( I guess Google won't, even you sent them reports everyday.)

    Google is sometimes very strict with their ToS but sometimes they just forget about it.
     
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  12. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    That's not true. Google does enforce the ToS when the abuse is reported, however this takes considerable time. I know about a few sites that were reported by members of this forum and it took around 3 months for Adsense to ban the sites in question. Some of those sites were pretty large ones too, so even if a site generates a large amount of revenue for Google, they will still ban it if it's in violation of the ToS or guidelines.
     
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    commandos Notable Member

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    #13
    just report it .
     
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    hans Well-Known Member

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    the landing page policy as outlined by Crusader
    Crusader and posted at

    http://adwords.blogspot.com/2006/07/landing-page-quality-update.html

    is basically nothing else but a joker card with the meaning - you can do whatever you want if you pay us enough.
    honest adword users hay normal - cheters pay double or so ...

    i would say that's kind of prostitution Google enjoys here - allowing deceiving landing pages at extra $

    reporting helps nothing so far
    just very polite bla bla mails coming back

    this and similar examples just show the practiced double moral by G ( an dother companies sometimes as well of course )
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    dude, just forget about it and go on.
    who cares what others do?

    he has no content, so he def not ranking anywhere and the only traffic he gets is from people who find it on seo forums and report it etc..
     
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    He probably has a real site somewhere. Google only requires you register one site with them. Then you can put adsense anywhere you want.

    It doesn't really matter. If people click on the ads because they're interested then it's a valid click. Unless you force people to click ads there's no real issue.
     
    KalvinB, Sep 2, 2006 IP