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Discussion in 'General Business' started by anusha, Apr 2, 2005.

  1. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #41
    This is a forum. I'm not here to impress you. I made an honest post and get your sarcastic reply in return.

    Let's move on. It's obvious that this is going nowhere.
     
    topdog, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  2. www.AmCy.org

    www.AmCy.org American CyberSpace®

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    #42
    Welcome!

    Don't take anything personal. The folks who hang out in this forum are seasoned Internet players. With all the phishing, spamming and scams going around these days, surely you understand why folks would be skeptical about your post.

    But if you are being honest then once again: welcome. I don't think I am alone in hoping to read more about your AS success! :) :D ;)

    AmCy
     
    www.AmCy.org, Apr 29, 2005 IP
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    xample Peon

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    #43
    I think this is related to what 'version' of English you have the language set to for the account.
     
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  4. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #44
    Thanks for the actual welcome.

    Yeah... I understand why people would be skeptical. Heck, my wife is skeptical, and she spends the money! LOL
     
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  5. www.AmCy.org

    www.AmCy.org American CyberSpace®

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    #45
    Heh...Now that I can believe without hesitation.

    AmCy
     
    www.AmCy.org, Apr 29, 2005 IP
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    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #46
    I don't care how my account is prefixed.
    I expect a product to deliver. Not by way of follow up emails either.

    Why don't you invite this guy to come demonstrate his AS knowledge. If he's as good as you say he is, and he demonstrates it to my satisfaction without having to risk dollars, then I'll buy in. Or should I, as a consumer, be expected to forever qualify my spending decisions on blurred graphics, and ambiguous sales gumph that never actually gets to the point ?

    I agree it's good to defend someone who's done well by you, but I think it's better not to simply redress the same hype they started with.. and really, having to followup with emails ?? not a shining example.

    Either way, if his approach has worked for you, keep at it ! :)

    Cheers,

    JL
     
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  7. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #47
    Hi.

    Like I mentioned earlier... I could not get the high $ clicks as hyped up by the sensecash site. Heck, it was the screenshot that he has on his site that sold me in the first place. I figured that with one of my high traffic sites, I could get in on some of that high $ per click action. (It didn't happen... but obviously the cents per click add up when you get a lot of traffic.)

    As far as getting him to prove himself to you.... that's really not my place. I'm not trying to get you to buy his list or sell you anything. I just wanted to relay my experience in my actual dealings with the guy.

    When it comes to adsense, I am not an expert by any means. If I knew it all, I wouldn't be reading the forums trying to learn more.

    My philosophy is very simple. If my actions don't produce the desired results, I change my actions in order to produce different results.

    So many people keep doing the same things over and over, even though their actions continue to produce lame results. Yet they continue to keep on doing those same actions hoping for different results.

    Certain actions produce certain results. Want different results? Change the actions.

    (okay... I'll stop babbling now.) :cool:
     
    topdog, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  8. afactory

    afactory Well-Known Member

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    #48
    topdog, as you wrote you have about 20,000 uniques per day?
    So, it's in avarage 50,000 page impressions

    CTR ~ 3.0%
    1500 clicks
    $500 / 2500 = .33 per click

    Hm, looks reasonable ...
     
    afactory, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  9. anusha

    anusha Active Member

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    #49
    I have solved this case.... I wish I get a place in FBI becoz of this...lol...

    The guy who owns this site (http://www.sensecash.com) is a dp member too.. His name (on dp) is JohnsonSmith ... http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=4222

    Wat's thr proof ? .. well ,... hav a look the follwoing snap shots of his so called earnings...
    a) from http://sensecash.com/stats.php
    b) And the one given here... http://www.adsensesystem.com/

    Yes! Both these statistics are modified ones... Both show the stats from march 7th to 13th... Why don't they just ban such people... I am really hurt coz I hav lost a lot of money on many traffic sending scams and things like that!!!

    Anusha
     
    anusha, May 6, 2005 IP
  10. anusha

    anusha Active Member

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    #50
    sensecash.com
    [​IMG]
    adsensesystem.com
    [​IMG]
     
    anusha, May 6, 2005 IP
  11. anusha

    anusha Active Member

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    #51
    hey!!! respond...
     
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  12. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #52
    I looked at both screenshots.

    http://www.adsensesystem.com/screenshot.PNG looks like it's been retouched. The numbers don't line up properly. Also if you look close, the numbers have been retouched.


    http://sensecash.com/screenshot.jpg this one looks untouched.

    The sensecash guy's name is Andre. He's the one that wrote to me and provided me with answers to my questions.

    It appears to me that whoever owns adsensesystem.com took the screenshot from sensecash and modified it then put it on his site.


    Here is the whois info for both:
    [whois.melbourneit.com]

    Domain Name.......... adsensesystem.com
    Creation Date........ 2005-04-24
    Registration Date.... 2005-04-24
    Expiry Date.......... 2006-04-24
    Organisation Name.... cetin hakimgolu
    Organisation Address. 2930 garber street
    Organisation Address.
    Organisation Address. berkeley
    Organisation Address. 94705
    Organisation Address. CA
    Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

    Admin Name........... cetin hakimgolu
    Admin Address........ 2930 garber street
    Admin Address........
    Admin Address........ berkeley
    Admin Address........ 94705
    Admin Address........ CA
    Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
    Admin Email.......... tradelite@yahoo.com
    Admin Phone.......... 1 510 843 1013
    Admin Fax............

    Tech Name............ cetin hakimgolu
    Tech Address......... 2930 garber street
    Tech Address.........
    Tech Address......... berkeley
    Tech Address......... 94705
    Tech Address......... CA
    Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
    Tech Email........... tradelite@yahoo.com
    Tech Phone........... 1 510 843 1013
    Tech Fax.............
    Name Server.......... ns1.freeservers.com
    Name Server.......... ns2.freeservers.com


    root@server [~]# whois sensecash.com
    [whois.crsnic.net]

    Whois Server Version 1.3

    Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
    with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
    for detailed information.

    Domain Name: SENSECASH.COM
    Registrar: ENOM, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.enom.com
    Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
    Name Server: NS25.DNSDC.COM
    Name Server: NS26.DNSDC.COM
    Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
    Updated Date: 30-mar-2005
    Creation Date: 21-mar-2005
    Expiration Date: 21-mar-2006


    >>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:42:15 EDT <<<


    [whois.enom.com]

    Registration Service Provided By: Total Online Solutions Inc.
    Contact: hostmaster@tosdomains.net
    Visit: http://www.tosdomains.net

    Domain name: sensecash.com

    Registrant Contact:
    hostezy co.
    Andre Pereira (sublimebrz@hotmail.com)
    +1.212122232
    Fax: +1.21212
    www.hostezy.com
    www.hostezy.com
    Www.hostezy.com, www.hostezy.com 121212
    US

    Administrative Contact:
    hostezy co.
    Andre Pereira (sublimebrz@hotmail.com)
    +1.212122232
    Fax: +1.21212
    www.hostezy.com
    www.hostezy.com
    Www.hostezy.com, www.hostezy.com 121212
    US

    Technical Contact:
    hostezy co.
    Andre Pereira (sublimebrz@hotmail.com)
    +1.212122232
    Fax: +1.21212
    www.hostezy.com
    www.hostezy.com
    Www.hostezy.com, www.hostezy.com 121212
    US

    Billing Contact:
    hostezy co.
    Andre Pereira (sublimebrz@hotmail.com)
    +1.212122232
    Fax: +1.21212
    www.hostezy.com
    www.hostezy.com
    Www.hostezy.com, www.hostezy.com 121212
    US

    Status: Locked

    Name Servers:
    ns25.dnsdc.com
    ns26.dnsdc.com

    Creation date: 21 Mar 2005 20:42:25
    Expiration date: 21 Mar 2006 20:42:25
     
    topdog, May 6, 2005 IP
  13. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #53
    Just for the record... YOU DID NOT SOLVE THE MYSTERY.

    I have a membership with sensecash via paypal and here is his info:

    sensecash

    Business URL: http://www.hostezy.com
    Cust. Service Email:

    --------------------------------------------------------


    I went to the scammer's site who stole his screen shot and modified it, and went through the sign up process via paypal to find out his paypal info, and here it is:

    http://www.adsensesystem.com/

    Business URL: http://TradeWorkshop.com
    Cust. Service Email:
    Cust. Service Phone: 925-788-9126



    So you see, these are two completely different entities. Sensecash is non-us account and adsensesystem is in the USA.


    It took me 5 minutes to look into this and find this information out. I suggest that you do your due diligence before making posts like the one you did.

    However... you did expose that adsensesystem.com copied the real pictures from sensecash.com - so now we know who the scammer is....

    adsensesystem.com is the scammer




    Here is the detailed paypal account info for each. As you can see, sensecash guy has had a paypal account for 3 years. The adsensesystem guy has had a paypal account for 10 months.



    sensecash:


    About Elba Co.:
    To protect your security, PayPal offers information on the status of this member.
    Seller Reputation: (239) Verified Buyers
    Account Status: Verified
    Account Type: BR Business
    Account Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2002
    PayPal Member For: 3 years 11 days

    * Member accepts all payments

    Business URL: http://www.hostezy.com
    Cust. Service Email:






    adsensesystem:

    About TradeWorkshop.com:
    To protect your security, PayPal offers information on the status of this member.
    Seller Reputation: (30) Verified Buyers
    Account Status: Verified
    Account Type: US Business
    Account Creation Date: Jun. 10, 2004
    PayPal Member For: 10 months 25 days

    * Member accepts all payments

    Business URL: http://TradeWorkshop.com
    Cust. Service Email:
    Cust. Service Phone: 925-788-9126
     
    topdog, May 6, 2005 IP
  14. paymentapprovaltooslow

    paymentapprovaltooslow Banned

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    #54
    I am not losing sleep over this. Im going to hit a few friday night flicks with my girl..its all good. Peace out...Hotdog is what we call a spoilsport. Somone who meddles in other peoples bussiness. I deal with these people every week.
     
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  15. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #55
    Aha... says sherlock holmes... a confession. LOL

    PEACE.........
     
    topdog, May 6, 2005 IP
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #56
    You're so incredible.
     
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    www.AmCy.org American CyberSpace®

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    #57
    Nice sleuthing, Anusha. G should hire you as an AS cop.

    :)

    AmCy
     
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  18. topdog

    topdog Peon

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    #58
    What?? I did the sleuthing and uncovered what's what. Sheesh. Can't get any props around here.
     
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    paymentapprovaltooslow Banned

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    #59
    Good for you. You are special. You will have something to discuss over dinner.
     
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    topdog Peon

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    #60

    Hey.... check this out... the only person on this board that calls me HOTDOG is the dude who kept saying I was lying about my income who is also known as the DavidWright guy. ("Berkeley student") - coincidence that adsensesystem.com also has a Berkeley address??

    So the truth comes out... DAVIDWRIGHT is also JOHNSONSMITH.... is also a scammer.... is also someone who should be booted from this forum. IN MY OPINION ONLY - OF COURSE.

    Crazy part is... the scammer (DAVIDWRIGHT AKA JOHNSONSMITH) is the guy who's been slamming me and talking smack about me.... has the audacity to call me a "spoil sport" for revealing the truth.

    LOL
     
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