How do you deal with a phobia?

Very true.

Even if it doesn't help you with this problem this time, you can use it in business and social life and in all other aspects of life pretty much.

 

NLP is not a qualification that is regulated by a professional association from which you can be expelled. Do the math - that is where it is at. As a Social Worker I can get kicked out for being shit house. But I can do NLP and life coaching (I do coaching) by doing a course - or not (just decide you are a practitioner and there you go), that you found on a website and cost whatever money. Come on - really. NLP? Same level of credibility as Life Coaching, it all comes down to the individual and what other foundation type qualifications that *are* professionally recognised they have that counts. NLP in the hands of a NLP only trained *person* is dubious at best - same with life coaching.

 

Well if I have to choose between 20 sessions at the Psych or a 30 minute session of NLP to get rid of a problem, I'll cut the waffle and get it done based on action and self-believe.

Not saying the conventional way doesn't work, but why get all filosophical about what's basically a minor misinterpretation of your mind?

I guess it depends on the patient's mindset.

But I wouldn't ditch NLP just because it's 'new' or hyped up by TV guru's. If you have a powerful mind there's a lot to achieve in a short timeframe. If the problems are deeper, yeah by all means take it deeper with a physhologist.

That's just my humble opinion of course.

 

30 mins of NLP and its all good? WOW!
I've said my piece, lets see what minstrel has to say if he sees this thread.

 

One wee, light-sedative pill and he's sorted. What's the problem with that?

 

Guys let's don't go into which method is best. 80-90% of the results are on the quality of the therapist. It is well known that many had great results with sh**ty methods, and many can't get the best methods working. As for NLP, there are many licensed psychologists and psychotherapists that do it too, but of course you can get a license in it in a week. Again, it's not about method, but about people. And as for going to licensed psychotherapist, I have seen some doing irreparable life-long damage to people I knew, I have seen some unlicensed people do magic, but also vice versa. It's about people, not method.

Same with hosting, Unix is for sure great, PHP too, but if you host with bad company, you are in big trouble.

I have tested EFT, free manual at emofree.com, on myself with success. Don't call me strange for that, though .

 

Yup, this way you save money too, you don't need to eat or drink, don't need to upgrade to first class for more legroom and you don't waste any time reading books or listening to people telling you how important it is to overcome your fears


No seriously, just Google it? Fear of flying is probably one of the most common fears, add to that the fact that wealthy businessmen need to fly and you have thousands of websites trying to sell ebooks on the subject

 

Ask a recognised therapist that deals with phobias and you will find that medication is used on some occasions for temporary relief successfully without harming the therapeutic progress but it depends on what you are treating, the patient, their phobia type, and several other contributing factors.

Phobias aren't like a headache you take a pill for. The pills have a different effect short medium and long term on the therapeutic process (and outcome) and can in some cases be very counterproductive and very harmful.

There are some medications you need to ease into slowly and ease off slowly (over months) and some patients with certain conditions that need to avoid certain groups of 'active ingredients.' Then there is other medications they take, lifestyle factors, medical history... tons of stuff to consider.

While taking a knock-out pill sounds like common sense there is a lot more to it than that. If you go to a GP and ask for a knock out pill some will just give you one, if you say you have a phobia a lot lot fewer will give you one, the good doctors will refer you to a doctor that specializes in medication for people with that type of challenge.. i.e. a psychiatrist.

As a Social Worker I deal with clients with a variety of diagnosis, phobia being one of them and I'm not the primary for the phobia response but know where to get the best outcome in terms of referral for phobia - it isn't nlp. Go ask your GP and they will tell you 'it isn't me either.'

Look. nlp whatever - life coaching whatever... they have their great uses - but if people have anything that is in DSM... forget da boud it = refer correctly.

 

I have to agree with Domenic here. NLP is overhyped and there are way too many people practicing it with dubious training and credentials.

It's also not like you have to look at seeing someone for "20 sessions vs. 30 minutes of NLP"... that sounds like something that came from an advertisement for NLP.

fryman, up here the airlines run fear of flying courses which are actually excellent, reasonably priced, and work for many people. They include group therapy sessions, flight simulation, and at the end an actual flight with your counselors to assist. One of my former clients recently completed such a course and found it very helpful.

 

Minstrel’s advice is definitely worth considering.

I used to love to fly.

About 5 years ago I started suffering anxiety attacks for no rational reason. With symptoms like dizziness, heart pounding, feeling cold I first thought I had a heart problem. The worst was when I felt like I could not get any oxygen.

Every conceivable test said I was fine and that I would have to find a way to deal with it. Recently, I therapist taught me some relaxation techniques. This was very fortunate for me because I later HAD to make a business flight for the first time since the attacks began.

I had always found flying to be very fun and exciting, but now I had no idea how I would react once I was on the plane. As it turned out, I did OK. I had some moments were I felt that sense of dizziness and an inability to breath or swallow, but thanks to the relaxation techniques I learned, I was able to cause those feelings to subside.

Bottom line: I would take Minstrel’s advice. You probably do not want to jump into something that can cause so much stress without first giving yourself the tools to deal with it.

Good luck.

 

I used self hypnosis to help me lose weight and it worked real well. My self hypnosis coach had a vasectomy without anaesthetic so he definitely new a thing or to about what works and what doesn't work because he didn't die of a heart attack when he had the vasectomy and came through with flying colors.

I don't know how it would work for phobia's.

Minstrel and Dominic make valid points about NLP but if you do manage to find a good NLP person they can definitely be highly effective.

All of their points about NLP can also be applied to psychologists or psychiatrists. There are just as many idiot psychologists and pyschiatrists. (With four years of counselling and the latest drugs you'll finally be able to take that flight)

The flight course that Minstrel mentioned sounds good.

 

Well... I decided to take it like a man and face my fears

Just got back today from Huatulco. Beatiful place... we went on a tour where you go down a river and at the end you get the chance to be covered in a special mud that is meant to make your skin feel like if you were a child



Quice a scary experience for me, but as you can see in this photo, it was worth it

 

Wow great place.

How much per night?

 

Well... I went by myself since some other friends were already there. Single room, 3 nights in an all inclusive plan including the flight was about 700 bucks.

Hotel was Brisas of Huatulco, in case anyone of you wants to go there.

 

That sounds like a good deal. I'll have to put on my list of places to visit.

 

How was the mud?

 

Watch Lost, that should do it.

I took up paragliding and although I still hate planes I can get through a flight without getting drunk.

 

Many of us CAN but why do you WANT to?

 

I wonder how many airlines renumbered any Flight 812's that they had after this show came out

I had a fear of heights - strike that, I have a fear of heights. However, when I joined the Army out of college, I signed up for Airborne school. I figured the experience would either cure me or kill me; it did neither. So then I went to Air Assualt training - still afraid of heights.

The thing that changed for me though, was that I could "respect" the fear, but still be assured that with some rational thinking, safety measures, and f it attitude, I could survive the experience.

I ended up completing 468 airborne jumps during my military tenure, and the thrill of exiting an aircraft was always cool, but landing and knowing you faced up to and lived through the fear is the great part, even empowering.

 

Actually I can't remember where I read it, but very few people truly have a fear of heights. The majority have a fear of falling.