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Inkjet vs. Ink-Film for Faxes

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by yfs1, Jan 6, 2006.

  1. #1
    I'm sick of getting faxes through my computer (Its been one of those days) so I am going to pop out to the store and just get a dedicated fax already. This is the one I want to get:
    Philips PPF 575 Magic 3 Voice
    http://www.faxshop.co.uk/acatalog/philips_fax.html
    (3rd one down)

    Argos lists it as Thermal but I think technically its "ink-film technology"

    The reason I want that one is I may go decent stretches without recieving a fax and I don't want the ink to dry up. I send a lot more and recieve the occasional. Is this "ink-film technology" the right choice? Will it basically last for as long as the roll does?

    All my labeling stuff is thermal and I love it (Dymo, etc) and the only ink jet are my production machines that nearly run all day (never dry up because of that)

    Wanted to get peoples opinions before I pop out to Argos.

    By the way
    1.) Quality isn't a big issue, 99% of faxes are text
    2.) Multi Function Printers aren't an option as I hate anything Multi-Function - I own a lot of printers, and a good scanner so I want a stand alone fax

    Thanks!
     
    yfs1, Jan 6, 2006 IP
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Ink Film = consumables requirement (@ £18 for 140 pages). We bought a fax at say £50 and the first time we had to buy Ink it turned out to be as expensive as a new fax. We use 3d party el-cheapo ink but the next fax will be thermal like my parents' fax and like our labelers. Consumables industry is a rip-off so I'd go thermal.
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 6, 2006 IP
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    Will I get the full amount of pages out of the thermal (Unlike Inkjet that can dry up if not used)?

    Actually rereading your post - Thermal and Ink-Film are completely different?

    (I know you can never rely on Argos for an accurate description)
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Ink Film seems similar to the old dot matrix 'tapes'. Thermal never runs out. It just requires different paper with a certain coating. Paper might be a bit more expensive but you won't use a lot of it you said so that should cost you less overall.

    Thermal = no consumables.
    Ink Film = not overly expensive consumables.
    Ink = Flush money down the drain or mess about with DIY refill sets.
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 6, 2006 IP
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    THis is all I could find:

    Ink Film Fax Machines
    Ink Film fax machines work by transferring print through a replaceable ink-covered ribbon which ensures a fixed cost per copy. It’s ideal for low volume usage.

    It sounds like the old dye-sub printers..The ink is activated by a small amount of heat or pressure and applied. That technology never had issues with drying up and when it said 140 pages, you got exactly 140 pages.

    I think I will go with that. True Thermal may be overkill as the machine itself is pretty expensive

    I guess this is a good sign
    http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q="ink+film+sucks"&btnG=Search&meta=
    vs.
    http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q="inkjet+sucks"&meta=
     
    yfs1, Jan 6, 2006 IP
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    yfs1 User Title Not Found

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    I just bought it an hour ago so I will report back in case anyone come across this thread (There isn't a ton of info on Ink Film Fax Machines out there.

    Something tells me this thread is going to rank for the term
     
    yfs1, Jan 6, 2006 IP
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    You get that too? He's been talking a lot lately. Change the topic to include Ink Film and you're all set. Post some aff links and DP could be making you a mil or two.
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 6, 2006 IP
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    I changed it...I don't know why, I actually don't care if it ranks :rolleyes:

    I do find it weird that no one else had an opinion. Do that few people have fax machines these days? I got sick of scanning things to send throught he computer. Sometimes the old way is the easiest.
     
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    I forgot to post back to this thread. THe fax is exactly what I wanted. It seems to be pressure activated (rather then heat) so its loud as hell. It sounds like a Dymo on crack.

    If I was receiving faxes all day I would have returned it but for my purposes (lots of sends, few receives) its perfect.

    Thanks Johannn
     
    yfs1, Jan 19, 2006 IP
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    No probs, Jasonnnnnnnnn.

    I've got to start handing out a red for every n to many...
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 19, 2006 IP
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    Hey just saw this, If you want you can EASILY rewind the film and use it about three times before it really needs to be replaced. :D
     
    Henny, Jan 19, 2006 IP
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    Does the cartridge have a chip? I would have thought it would know that you did that (to further persuade you to part with cash)

    I do know the old ribbon machines did let you get away with that
     
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    Crazy_Zap Well-Known Member

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    Off topic, I know, and I'm sorry. But I've been meaning to ask you, yfs1. Is your avatar from Kids In The Hall?
     
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    I loved that show but alas it is not. I take it you are not from the UK.

    www.alanpartridge.co.uk
     
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    I hated the film type of fax and if you rewind it more than once you will have problems reading it.
     
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    No, I'm from the home of the Kids in the Hall. Toronto. (Actually, a suburb of Toronto)
     
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    If I was getting a ton of faxes I would have gotten laser but I couldn't justify the cost for the 10 faxes I receive a month.

    Inkjet just plain sucks for intermintent use
     
    yfs1, Jan 19, 2006 IP
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    I have an office jet K60, Prints awesome photos, uses very little ink, does faxes, scans, prints etc, for me the only way to go.
     
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