Is Knowing ENglish:- the only criteria to rate person's Knowledge?

As long as i can understand what a person is talking about i really dont give a damn about some grammar mistakes ..... not everyone is born in english speaking countries .... well majority of the world .... and to say that those who cannot write english perfectly ... well they are trying because it is obvious that is not their mothers language ! And maybe they have more knowledge than some other guys who can only speak english. In my life i came across many people who were so full of themselves when i made simple mistake when talking or writing english but then i knew that they could only speak english while i speak at least 4 languages more than they hehe

I never told them but was just thinking in me .... what a lowlife morons. they can only speak one language

 

I was born in an English speaking country and still give a lot of errors, that doesn’t mean I’m stupid just slow!!! One thing that irritates me is seeing Portuguese sites written in English with grammatical errors.

Just yesterday I saw these Examples:

All the all rights reserved.
Google Research
CLICK TO ADD the “sitename” HERE to the FAVOURITES PERSON OR THING
Grippe of the Birds (Bird flu)
The occult face of the Milk (don't even ask)

I would add more but really think there is no need to. All this was found in just one site. With the number of English speaking people in this country you would think they would ask someone to check to see if everything is written correctly.

 

No matter what language you choose to communicate in, you should do it well.

I am less likely to link to a site which uses poor English. I am also less likely to bookmark it or take it seriously.

The proper use of a language is not the be all and end all of skills, but it is one important skill. If you want to win at the web game, it is a skill which you should invest time and effort in mastering.

 

If a word is not included in Office's dictionary, it doesn't exist ? (kiddie)

1. True, my bad. It's not an excuse, but I posted at about 1 AM.
2. indian is not "spelt" with I, I don't see anywhere "I love American people" (replace American with any nationality)
3. I was referring to "script kiddie" ( go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie ) . Indeed, it is not a word in dictionary but it is used.
4. True, sorry if it caused bleeding to your eyes.

 

I think proper English can be a distinguishing factor on the internet, considering it's the single most important thing that people will use to judge you.

When someone starts speaking that net slang or has really bad English, particularly on forums, I'm less likely to respond or take them seriously. But this obviously doesn't impact upon the knowledge someone has as that stays the same no matter how they communicate.

English is (in my opinion) the best secondary language to learn if you don't know it already.

 

Well Mariush,

Mariush I merely did what you were doing.

I only stated here that the word indian should contain a capital. If you really want to agrue about the grammaticality of the word you are wrong.

We don't spell it like so: canadian, american, italian. Even MW fixes it for you. Because you are talking about a nationality or people from a nation you always capatalize the word.

All I'm saying is you made errors in your post. Does that mean that you couldn't sell anything? Does that mean you are stupid? Of course not. But you felt that someone else was more stupid because they madespelling and grammer errors.

I was merely giving you the treatment you gave someone else.

To: The Webmaster

First, of all I normally don't check people's posts for spelling or grammer because as long as I can tell what it says I don't really care.

But you asked .

1) "there" should have a capital 'T'.
2) "speack" is spelt without the 'c'.
3) "english" should have a captial 'E' (see Mariush MW vomited it out) . x3

Skinny

 

Over the years I have dealt with many Non English people. This ranges from Pakistanis', Indians, Portugese, Spanish etc. The one thing I learned quickly was how people assume that because the peron has not yet mastered English, they are unintelligent. Intelligence has nothing to do with it, and many people make the mistake of thinking educated people are intelligent.

Education is learned, Intelligence is built in and can only be developed. You can NOT learn intelligence. I have very few formal qualifications, I am completely self taught, yet it has never stopped me making money and building a reputation.

If people want to take the piss out of me, then let them, because it is EASY to knock people down, but HARD to lift others up around you. COWARDS and BULLIES put people down to make themselves feel better, decent people who are comfortable with who they are, delight in helping others and seeing them grow.

Many years ago I had a lad come to work for me on a criminal rehabilitation scheme. This lad had a white mother and a Black father (black is his choice of words not mine BTW). I suggested he went to night school to learn English (as he had no education at all and could barely read or write). He went to day release class, and at the end of the year he sat the exam. HE FAILED IT! He came back to me and started ranting at how I had made him look foolish etc.

I asked him to find me a stores requisistion note with a certain reference number (It was 11 months previous). He got the req out, and I placed it next to the one he had written that day. A MASSIVE grin came across his face, and he said 'SORRY' to me. He realised that he had LEARNED. I sold the business and moved, and we lost touch. 10 years later I walked into a carpet store to buy some carpet (oddly enough) and this guy was there.

It was brilliant to see him after all this time, in a suit in a large store. Turns out he was the manager of this large store. He turned to my wife and said "This bloke changed my life, he is so kind" I cried, and felt 10 feet tall.

As I said, ANYONE can put people down, it is easy. Real people don't though, they lift people up.

Sorry for the long post

 

English good. Me English gooder than all!

Eh, as long as you don't use "da" instead of "the", I don't have a problem with you. Also, as long as you don't do something stupid like tYpE lIkE tHiS than it's all good.

 

Very well said Old Welsh Guy

 

yes especially when there is da spell ck3kr in da house

 

@jat

Thanks buddy for understanding!

Old Welsh Guy has point right there. He is totally right; I have seen many people (especially Indians) speaking English just to pretend that they have gone to school... I deal with those people everyday.
I am basically an Indian (living in Canada)
When ever I see a Indian guy I try to speak Indian language (so that its comfortable for me and may be other person also) but
They try to bombard their broken English on me. I just can stop laughing at that point (buddy why the hell cant you talk what we both can understand and speak properly) BUT no they want to show that they are educated!

 

spel chkr did da gud job.....



bt i m wndring is it gooder or better??

 

good >gooder> goodest Honestly does you kno notingk?

 

thnx fr tichin me such a gud leson of da eng, OWG...
good>gooder>goodest
yepp nailed in da mind...

 

sorted ............

 

Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Why is this story relevant? You told some guy to learn English which he did, he then secured the manager job at a carpet store after working for 10 years - am I missing something?

 

Ok, it seems I have to clarify a few things.

First of all, I want to apologize to anyone that may have been offended by what I've said.

No, I have never said in my posts that a person having problems in the grammar department is stupid, less inteligent. Intelligence has (almost) nothing do to with it.

What I have said is the way I feel about this, feelings that have formed over the years. Who knows, maybe I'm weird or maybe there are plenty like me.

As a business person, I would do my best to check and double check any text that I present to a possible clientele. That, the text, is probably the first place where the person will learn about my company.

It would be in my best interest to write it as clear as possible, I would even hire some native english speaker to check it for me.

I am an active coder on RentACoder.com (well, not so active right now because I got employed) and I did a lot of custom programming for people in lots of countries, like Portugal, Argentina, Australia, UK, USA and naturally people made mistakes while talking about requirements.
In this case, I won't bug the client, I accept the fact that he is not a native english speaker and I know the most important thing is to understand each other.

As for that thing about nationalities spelled (spelt, spelled - both are fine) with capital letter, I have to be honest with you again and tell you that it's not used in my country. I have checked Google news and indeed, the articles use capital letter for nationalities.

There's probably something else that I've forgot to mention, and sorry for any mistakes that may appear in my text, it's 3:08 am here and ...

 

Dude if you can't see the relevance to the thread then it is wasted on you

The guy was not unitelligent, he was just uneducated, that was the point of the whole thread. I didn't say he secured it after 10 years did I? And like I say, it is EASY to try to put people down

I am sorry if my post didn't meet your North London high Standards !

 

You don't need to know english, but it is much easier for the closed mided english speaker to pick on you if you do try and speak english.

Good luck and dont worry about people like that.