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Is this the sandbox effect?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by General Grant, Feb 5, 2005.

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    My site is fairly new, and started with a PR3, it just went down to a 2.

    Is this the sandbox effect I've read about?

    If so, it SUCKS!
     
    General Grant, Feb 5, 2005 IP
  2. disgust

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    no, it isn't.

    PR doesn't depend on the sandbox at all.
     
    disgust, Feb 5, 2005 IP
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    petertdavis Notable Member

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    That your toolbar PageRank went from 3 to 2 is of very little relevance. More important is how you're ranking for keywords. Are your rankings going down too?
     
    petertdavis, Feb 5, 2005 IP
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    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    No, I don't believe so. With that said, I'm wondering if this latest update didn't include the devaluing of certain links?

    For instance, if you had a given number of PR5 links that pointed to your site and all of a sudden Google devalued those links to a PR3 then the PR that transferred from those links to your site would also be lower.

    Hmmm.
     
    ResaleBroker, Feb 5, 2005 IP
  5. General Grant

    General Grant Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I'm just starting to show in the serp's.

    Maybe I just worry about PR too much.
     
    General Grant, Feb 5, 2005 IP
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    metrics Peon

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    I recently read that Google says that PR (as shown on the Google bar) is for entertainment purposes only. I can't remember exactly where I read it but it makes sense to me.
     
    metrics, Feb 6, 2005 IP
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    Much of what Google says is for amusement. Theirs.

    BB
     
    Big Bill, Feb 6, 2005 IP
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    dfsweb Active Member

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    Toolbar PR isn't important 'cos it lags behind the real PR by a couple of months in any case.
     
    dfsweb, Feb 6, 2005 IP
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    so how would one go about finding the 'real' PR of their site?
     
    wendydettmer, Feb 6, 2005 IP
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    dfsweb Active Member

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    That's the entire point. You can't!!

    Google mantains two versions (or more, perhaps) of the PR. The PR that is used for calculating SERPs is not the same as the PR that is displayed on the toolbar. Evidence for this can be found in the fact that nobody sees big movements when the toolbar PR is updated. Only the guys at Google could tell you what your real PR is. Or, you can wait until the next toolbar update to find out.
     
    dfsweb, Feb 6, 2005 IP
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    I wish i could come up with something more witty to say, but all i can think of is that bites
     
    wendydettmer, Feb 7, 2005 IP
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    PR isn't everything because it depends way too much on backlinks. Some of my competitors have a PR 5 like me for the German version of my site, although my site has way fewer backlinks but it offers fresh content. My two main competitors had like 3 or 4 updates in the same amount of years :p and Google lists them still #1 and #2 since they are just the oldest websites still around about the topic
     
    Chrissicom, Feb 7, 2005 IP