London bombers 'were all British'

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Why the hell did they have to be from our end?!

 

Tom Ridge (ex-Homeland Security Secretary) was on a television show here last night. Chris Mathews (the show host) asked him what he went to bed worrying about for the past 3.5 years that he served as Secretary. Ridge basically said he thought about the fact that these people are living here now and that we have to figure out a way to stop or deter them.

 

I agree with you about the bombers being british. In fact, their are reputable sources online that say British intelligence(MI5) were all over the job.

I find it wierd how Tony Blair/Bush points the finger at Al Qaieda without having proof.

If you want more information go to www.infowars.com. They have all the real info on the bombings, not the cnn/nbc corporate info.

Tesla

 

www.infowars.com

well I believe there are more to what we are seeing on TV and the papers regarding this issue and most of it points to Bush/Blair

 

Yea, who would ever think to point a finger at the muslim terrorists

 

Tesla -

Are you proposing that you can't be British and a part of Al Qaieda?

By the way, the British government saying it was an Al Qaieda plot might actually have something to do with the fact that they claimed responsibilty for it

Poor Al Qaieda getting blamed for the bombings by Tony Blair. Maybe you should start a benefit for them Tesla

 

I work with someone who's husband is in MI6. He says a fifth suicide bomber was shot dead at Docklands before boarding the light railway there (this was never even reported in the media as far as I know). After checking his prints and running a background check this "terrorist" came up completely blank - no passport, no driving license, no school record or national insurance number. The MI6 guy said this tells him that the "terrorist" was definately a secret service operative for some country or other.

 

It would be more surprising if there was no Brits involved in the London bombings.

As for the docklands shooting - odd, that - was reported before online as well:
http://www.threadwatch.org/node/3081#comment-18262

 

Whoever the bombers are they must belong to an expert group with military training and background. When i read that they are just teenagers i must say i am very skeptical.

Moreover, the papers said that they come from a well to do familiy, " living in a large detached house in the Beeston area of Leeds, with two Mercedes cars parked outside". i don't believe they would waste their life just like that. Then, The Independent says the four young men carrying rucksacks "looked as if they were off on a walking holiday,", joking and laughing...( it seems like they DO NOT know there's a bomb in their bags )

Does not make sense. You must be super .. super cool dude to be like that before commiting suicide.

It also does not make sense how a terrorist group could conduct such carefully planned attack without the brits inteligence knowing it.

al-qaeda behind this? maybe no. A fake al-qaeda to justify more wars? maybe yes.

so, after iraq and afghanistan, who's next? iran?

BTW, that's only my opinion, and of course, i may be wrong

 

There are number of strange similarities with this bombing and 9/11, such as reports that governement 'drills' were being run on the same day (in the exact same fashion as what occured). The CIA

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.htm


I don't think it necessarily means there's any kind of conspiracy going on, but it's certainly suspicious. What it makes me wonder is if there was some sort of pre-attack warning, and these were covert security operations that failed. Although from the reports it actually shows that while the CIA was running drills of crashing planes into buildings on the morning of 9/11, jet fighters were removed from patrolling the US east coast and sent to Alaska and Canada (reducing the amount of fighter planes available to protect the east coast).


It's definitely no mystery that there are military and security activities where the true details are never revealed. I've a very close friend who was in US Special Forces during the Gulf war and he's had a rough time recovering emotionally because he's not allowed to actually talk about many things he was involved in.

 

I read that whole thing, the problem with these conspiracy theories is that although they may sound plausable when isolated like that they all contradict each other. I have seen the movie that shows "proof" that the Pentagon wasn't actually hit by a plane. That is in direct contradiction to this wacky theory where Cheney guided the plane while ordering it not to be shot down.

In the mass confusion (which is what that theory relies on) there are always incorrect reports in a rush to be the first to report it. Conspiracy theorists always take that as fact.

I suspect the Canary Wharf shooting is the same as I have now heard 3 very different "reports" by people who say they know someone in MI6, CIA, etc (take your pick) who told them the facts.

I'm not naive enough to say things aren't hidden or that governments don't engage in some really shady stuff but most of these conspiracy theories have more holes than a strainer.

 

There is always a twist on every story. Too bad, it went against UK this time..

 

What exactly does that mean

 

I take anything from infowars or prisonplanet as just that, left wing conspiracy theories. Alex Jones is a notorious lunatic. The same guy who recently said that the US military might create a black hole with their anti-matter weapons. Jones is proof positive that investing in pharmaceutical stock is a wise investment.

I must say though, I'm never surprised at the nut jobs that set out to paint an alternate universe of reality when it comes to those with a pattern of habitually blowing up the world. "The blame MUST be anywhere, but on those who did it."

 

This was what I thought Tesla was getting at by painting Al Qaieda as a victim of Tony Blair in this instance.

 

Does your workmates husband share all his confidential 'mi6' information then? if so maybe hes never heard of the official secrets act

Somehow I dont think they would have travelled specifically to london, split up on different tube routes and coincidently all (bar one) exploded within a minute of each other and not known what they were carrying on their back!

 

As you have pointed out, that assertion was just crazy. The sheer weight of these bags (reported in just about every story) makes that theory nonsense.

Its not like the explosive was the weight of a pencil.

 

Agreed. I'm not a fan of jumping off the bridge...and it's certainly not hard to twist facts to support any theory, but at some point one has to say there IS at least a little bit of evidence to show that SOME government activity was happening that seems mysteriously similiar (related or not) to the bombing. Of course the million dollar question is what?

I'm also not a fan of blindly trusting "official" stories released by the government.

 

I agree..I do believe Government is involved in certain aspects but not in the way these conspiricasts propose. Its more about CYA after the fact.

But thats true of every government. France didn't want the world to know they were selling arms to Iraq (amongst many others), etc.

I just haven't seen anything convincing that they are behind planning these sort of things, just that they may cover up some of the inteligence as to not risk looking stupid (and losing their careers)

There is a HUGE difference IMHO