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London bombers 'were all British'

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by piniyini, Jul 12, 2005.

  1. piniyini

    piniyini Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Conspiracy theories aside, the reason I posted this was because I couldnt believe that two of the bombers could be from this little town called Dewsbury where I live. To top it off they also had to be the same origin as me, Pakistani.
     
    piniyini, Jul 13, 2005 IP
  2. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #22
    The thing no one seems to be asking is were the kids duped?

    They may have been part of the operation but what did they actually think they were doing that day? Acting as suicide bombers? or couriering banned materials around the city?

    Don't suicide bombers leave notes for their family? Why then did the family of one report him missing? Because he thought he'd be home that night?

    These were Muslims who had integrated into the British community, and therefore legitimate targets to be used and abused.

    I don't know, but there's lot of questions that need to be asked before you start making the statements the mainstream press have been making.
     
    sarahk, Jul 13, 2005 IP
  3. iskandar

    iskandar Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I would be very very cautious when referring them as the bombers. I am not a Pakistani, but for me these teenagers are not actual bombers. Either they are framed or like Sarahk sid, they do not know exactly what they were carrying.

    Their background does not justfy their action. Coming from a well to do family, very - very casual on the bombing day, and just teenagers. I don't think a guy under 20 could be a expert terrorist, up to the stage that the British Intelligence failed to suspect it.

    No way these teenagers were trying to commit suicide on that day...( i have significant doubt that they are responsible for it - i think they are just easy scapegoats)
     
    iskandar, Jul 13, 2005 IP
  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #24
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1552099,00.html

    This article was composed and released in April of this year. If I recall correctly, one of the London terrorists had recently studied in Lahore as well. There is a common misperception about terrorists being poor, desparate souls.

    There's lots of activity going on in the UK. Just a few months ago there were 100 arrests of suspected terrorists: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1621.ece

    A recent capture of a cross-dressing terrorist in Pakistan revealed his working with 10 in Britain: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1600278,00.html
     
    GTech, Jul 13, 2005 IP
  5. yfs1

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    #25
    Thats fine if they were just walking around and they went off but the whole in the "They thought they were transportating goods" is that they were all on different modes of transportation at exactly the same time. None of which going even close to the same place.

    If someone told you and a bunch of other people to take these heavy backpacks and meet in a central place (they came to this meeting with the backpacks already on), spread out on different transportation at exactly such and such a time to deliver these backpacks, wouldn't you be at least a bit suspicious.

    In todays climate, if you believe they thought they were just delivering drugs or something, you're way off.
     
    yfs1, Jul 14, 2005 IP
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    martaay Peon

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    #26
    also having my read of the daily mail still fresh in mind, its reported that police confirmed there were no timers and that manual triggers were used. That pretty much throws the 'unsuspecting lad they thought they were transporting xxx' theory right out the window, the times yesterday also reported that the bus bomb was also meant for the tube but the terrorist/bomber/unsuspecting bag carrier's bomb trigger didn't work correctly and when all the others went off he got evacuated with everyone else, then got on a bus and started fiddling with it, which was also reported from someone actually on the bus saying he 'looked very nervous and kept going into his bag and fiddling with something'.

    I think people need to be clear a terrorist is a terrorist, regardless of nationality/race/religion if they were white christians we would be calling them a terrorist just as much as we are because they were muslim.
     
    martaay, Jul 14, 2005 IP
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    DarrenC Peon

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    #27
    I'm ashamed to be from Leeds right now :(
     
    DarrenC, Jul 14, 2005 IP
  8. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #28
    The concept of being a suicide bomber is so outside of anything most of us can imagine - as is setting them up.

    While I choose not to live in the type of english community they have come from it is, by global standards, a priviledged life.

    To not comprehend that they have more power and influence alive, and vocal, is unbelievable.
    Did they learn nothing of democracy in their British schools?
    Nothing of changing the system from within?
     
    sarahk, Jul 14, 2005 IP
  9. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    #29
    I guess not
     
    chachi, Jul 14, 2005 IP
  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #30
    What?

    I was listening to WISN this morning (thunderstorms are interfering with WLS which I normally listen to). Anyway, the guys on the radio were discussing this very same point when something occurred to one of them.

    Any terror attack is caused by Bush and the Iraq/Afgan wars. Using that ideology one has to wonder, if that is the motivation for terror attacks, ie., Bush/Iraq, then how does one explain the following:

    The Cole Bombing
    Our Embassy Bombings
    The First WTC attacks and bombings
    The Second WTC attacks and bombings

    I could go on...

    These people have always hated us, and they always will. They were blowing things up before Bush and will be doing it long after him, unless we all join in the good fight and do our part to eliminate them.
     
    Mia, Jul 21, 2005 IP
  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    GTech, Jul 21, 2005 IP