McDar Experiment

This could possibly be part of the same issue!

Showing a description/title that are months old sounds like a cache issue to me.

 

The site reverted a few hours ago (the cache now shows 17th)

Another site is ranking badly across the board, though it has held its rankings for years (i have it tracked since oct 2003 on the kwt). The cache shows up as 14th

 

Design Agent,

Thanks for tracking this information and contributing.

I have had no luck with getting folks to monitor this stuff.

Caryl

 

This article may help explain the theory that I am supporting .

 

If that theory is correct, absolutely every site I have and consult on will drop like rocks in the serps.

We'll see...

Caryl

PS - Personally, I believe Google is solely responsible for the exponential growth of the internet.

When their Florida Update turned the focus from on-page optimization to off page optimization (links) folks scrambled to build websites just to gennerate links!

IF the theory you are referring to is correct - expect to see the internet explode exponentially once again. IMHO

 

But they wouldn't drop for long Caryl.
Building a new type of link page which gives a link per page in a sort of article wouldn't exactly be difficult now would it, and if that theory was correct then everyone would build this type of linkpage f'in quickly.

 

We all have theories and beliefs we share, the simple fact is this is a game of cat and mouse .

After reading threads like this one you will certainly have enough ammo to make an educated choice on what you elect to believe in!

Caryl, Bob and others...thank you!

 

Thus the Exponential Explosion of the internet (once again).

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
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Last 10 days

Postion #11 allinanchor: #4 --10/08/2005 [ALL DCs #11]**(Note: Allinanchor #4 on ALL DCs)
Postion #9 allinanchor: #3 --10/09/2005 [30 DCs #9, 3 DCs #769]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 30 DCs, #791 on 3 DCs)
Postion #9 allinanchor: #3 --10/10/2005 [30 DCs #9, 3 DCs #491]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 30 DCs, #793 on 3 DCs)
Postion #9 allinanchor: #3 --10/11/2005 [27 DCs #9, 6 DCs #756]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #796 on 6 DCs)
Postion #10 allinanchor: #3 --10/12/2005 [27 DCs #10, 6 DCs #751]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #794 on 6 DCs)
Postion #10 allinanchor: #3 --10/13/2005 [27 DCs #10, 6 DCs #743]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #797 on 6 DCs)
Postion #11 allinanchor: #3 --10/14/2005 [27 DCs #11, 6 DCs #n/f]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #802 on 6 DCs)
Postion #12 allinanchor: #3 --10/15/2005 [27 DCs #12, 6 DCs #487]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #799 on 6 DCs)
Postion #11 allinanchor: #794 --10/16/2005 [27 DCs #11, 6 DCs #764]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #794 on 27 DCs)
Postion #753 allinanchor: #794 --10/17/2005 [3 DCs #12, 2 DCs #486, 5 DCs #742, 2 DCs #743, 4 DCs #744, 10 DCs #753, 6 DCs #764]**(Note: Allinanchor #793 on 6 DCs, #794 on 14 DCs, #795 on 6 DCs, #796 on 3 DCs, #798 on 4 DCs)
Postion #26 allinanchor: #806 --10/18/2005 [10 DCs #26, 23 DCs #27]**(Note: Allinanchor #804 on 5 DCs, #806 on 20 DCs, #807 on 6 DCs, #808 on 2 DCs)

Postion #768 allinanchor: #795 -10/19/2005 [3 DCs #749, 2 DCs #750, 2 DCs #753, 4 DCs #755, 6 DCs #758, 4 DCs #759, 8 DCs #768, 4 DCs #770]** (Note: Allinanchor #793 on 5 DCs, #794 on 4 DCs, #795 on 10 DCs, #796 on 4 DCs, #797 on 6 DCs, #799 on 4 DCs)

Cache Date: Oct 18, 2005 19:48:02 GMT
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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

138 - 9/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
140 - 9/08/2005
Unchanged from previous date
152 - 9/28/2005
Unchanged from previous date
155 - 10/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
150 - 10/18/2005
__________________

note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

1100 - 9/20/2005
Unchanged from previous date
1130 - 10/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
1090 - 10/12/2005
1080 - 10/13/2005
Unchanged from previous date
1070 - 10/18/2005
1050 - 10/19/2005
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

81 - 8/31/2005
79 - 9/01/2005
Unchanged from previous date
91 - 9/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 9/08/2005
Unchanged from previous date
155 - 10/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

606 - 1/29/2005
457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
251 - 2/12/2005
261 - 3/03/2005
273 - 3/18/2005
275 - 3/19/2005
508 - 4/09/2005
560 - 5/20/2005
627 - 6/14/2005
536 - 6/25/2005
584 - 7/11/2005
631 - 7/29/2005
15,785 - 8/19/2005
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Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
(Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

Number Indexed by Google

40 - 12/23/2004
48 - 12/24/2004
107 - 12/30/2004
115 - 1/2/2005
116 - 1/21/2005
108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
__________________

PR/Backlink info

~ April 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
143 Backlinks reported
___________

~ March 3 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
113 Backlinks reported
___________

~ February 3 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
260 Backlinks reported
___________

~ January 1 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
___________
~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
155 Backlinks
(Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
___________

"A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
__________________
Note:Google API has page at #9999

 

Again - to make it easier to read...

Postion #768 allinanchor: #795 -10/19/2005
Positions:
3 DCs #749
2 DCs #750
2 DCs #753
4 DCs #755
6 DCs #758
4 DCs #759
8 DCs #768
4 DCs #770

Allinanchor:
#793 on 5 DCs
#794 on 4 DCs
#795 on 10 DCs
#796 on 4 DCs
#797 on 6 DCs
#799 on 4 DCs

Cache Date: Oct 18, 2005 19:48:02 GMT

The cache date was updated again yesterday. What I find curious is the yesterday's cache date!

When Google just does a "regular" cache update it is usually reported as the previous date to the current date. Like the results for today.

BUT Yesterday's reported cache date was for Oct 15, 2005 02:51:26 GMT. You would normally see that reported on Oct 16th. October 16th was still "stuck" on the old Oct 4, 2005 13:31:07 GMT cache date.

This is what make me feel that the reported Oct 15, 2005 02:51:26 GMT cache date was not the same "type" of cached data.

Heres a look...


Caryl

 

I just read the vast majority of this thread over the course of this day... my brain hurts - a lot.

At first it seemed like I was really learning something and very specific ideas were forming in my head. As time went on they started to dissolve though.

With the recent G update now, it is like whatever little pieces of firm thought left in the melted ooze just got blown up.



But seriously, thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. It is quite a journey.

 

Hi I'm back again guys

Well, this update hit me, like others, at the weekend, and, just like this page, I lost heavily across the allins, as well as the serps.

So when I looked at the post above by Caryl I could not quite understand why the movement down was across all three factors evenly just as it was/is with all mine.

It does not seem logical, for example, that the allinurl can fall equally as the allintitle or the allintext as it is judged by a different set of rules....or is it?

Hmmmmmm

Like always it will be a waiting game to see the longer term effects

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update
**33 Active DCs(6 New DC Found)**


The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #9 allinanchor: #3 --10/10/2005 [30 DCs #9, 3 DCs #491]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 30 DCs, #793 on 3 DCs)
Postion #9 allinanchor: #3 --10/11/2005 [27 DCs #9, 6 DCs #756]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #796 on 6 DCs)
Postion #10 allinanchor: #3 --10/12/2005 [27 DCs #10, 6 DCs #751]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #794 on 6 DCs)
Postion #10 allinanchor: #3 --10/13/2005 [27 DCs #10, 6 DCs #743]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #797 on 6 DCs)
Postion #11 allinanchor: #3 --10/14/2005 [27 DCs #11, 6 DCs #n/f]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #802 on 6 DCs)
Postion #12 allinanchor: #3 --10/15/2005 [27 DCs #12, 6 DCs #487]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 27 DCs, #799 on 6 DCs)
Postion #11 allinanchor: #794 --10/16/2005 [27 DCs #11, 6 DCs #764]**(Note: Allinanchor #3 on 6 DCs, #794 on 27 DCs)
Postion #753 allinanchor: #794 --10/17/2005 [3 DCs #12, 2 DCs #486, 5 DCs #742, 2 DCs #743, 4 DCs #744, 10 DCs #753, 6 DCs #764]**(Note: Allinanchor #793 on 6 DCs, #794 on 14 DCs, #795 on 6 DCs, #796 on 3 DCs, #798 on 4 DCs)
Postion #26 allinanchor: #806 --10/18/2005 [10 DCs #26, 23 DCs #27]**(Note: Allinanchor #804 on 5 DCs, #806 on 20 DCs, #807 on 6 DCs, #808 on 2 DCs)
Postion #768 allinanchor: #795 --10/19/2005 [3 DCs #749, 2 DCs #750, 2 DCs #753, 4 DCs #755, 6 DCs #758, 4 DCs #759, 8 DCs #768, 4 DCs #770]**(Note: Allinanchor #793 on 5 DCs, #794 on 4 DCs, #795 on 10 DCs, #796 on 4 DCs, #797 on 6 DCs, #799 on 4 DCs)

Postion #767 allinanchor: #795 -10/20/2005 [10 DCs #486, 9 DCs #761, 4 DCs #765, 10 DCs #767]** (Note: Allinanchor #789 on 2 DCs, #791 on 5 DCs, #792 on 4 DCs, #793 on 6 DCs, #794 on 4 DCs, #795 on 12 DCs)

Cache Date: Oct 19, 2005 00:58:55 GMT
_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

138 - 9/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
140 - 9/08/2005
Unchanged from previous date
152 - 9/28/2005
Unchanged from previous date
155 - 10/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
150 - 10/18/2005
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob replaced links in Signatures - 7/21/2004
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

1100 - 9/20/2005
Unchanged from previous date
1130 - 10/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
1090 - 10/12/2005
1080 - 10/13/2005
Unchanged from previous date
1070 - 10/18/2005
1050 - 10/19/2005
1040 - 10/20/2005
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy removed links in Signatures - 11/16/2004

81 - 8/31/2005
79 - 9/01/2005
Unchanged from previous date
91 - 9/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
156 - 9/08/2005
Unchanged from previous date
155 - 10/06/2005
Unchanged from previous date
__________________

*August 18, 2004 - (10) Project Supporters donated Links from 13 different IP addresses to page. Additional info will be added as it comes in.

Total links found by using site:www.domainname.tld Researched daily by Foxy

Daily Totals Report (click to see full report)

606 - 1/29/2005
457 - 1/29/20052/6/2005[/B](148 lost links from one IP) [/b]
251 - 2/12/2005
261 - 3/03/2005
273 - 3/18/2005
275 - 3/19/2005
508 - 4/09/2005
560 - 5/20/2005
627 - 6/14/2005
536 - 6/25/2005
584 - 7/11/2005
631 - 7/29/2005
15,785 - 8/19/2005
3891 - 10/20/2005
__________________

Dec 17, 2004 - digitalpoint's "Patient" Added link to 116 different urls
(Located on 3 different IPs within same class 3 IP address Address - 217.36.188.*)

Jan 20, 2005 - (moved all urls to dif server - now all 116 are on same IP + changed from Coldfusion to Java)

Number Indexed by Google

40 - 12/23/2004
48 - 12/24/2004
107 - 12/30/2004
115 - 1/2/2005
116 - 1/21/2005
108 - new urls & 70 old urls- 1/31/2005
__________________

PR/Backlink info

~ April 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
143 Backlinks reported
___________

~ March 3 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
113 Backlinks reported
___________

~ February 3 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
260 Backlinks reported
___________

~ January 1 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
268 Backlinks - see Table of Links reported
___________
~ December 16 Update ~ (only Backlinks updated in this update)
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
155 Backlinks
(Details can be found for this and the following in Complete Report)
___________

"A nice tool that Shawn didn't write -" DISCUSSION
__________________
Note:Google API has page at #9999

 

Wow! We jumped up a whole position today. At that rate we will be back in first place in just a couple of years

Now I'm sure that if we comb the forums and SEO blogs we can probably fine a theory that will explain exactly why we improved one place today. After all Google is all knowing and all wise. This couldn't possibly be random or a sign that they are broken.

 

Broken or fixed, they're still serving up results everyday at astonishing rates. So I can not ever see the theory of broken being reality, unless they are offline...messed up, retarded, insane I may agree with . But never broken, the daily revenue they generate is beyond what most of us see in a lifetime with or without my site in the top of serps.

 

is the keyword tool acting funky today? I'm getting the site in question...a ranking of 100 or 200 or 300 with bls, pr, etc. but no ranking for the top ten.

 

YES, the McDar Tools were having problems but I just now have them resolved.

Try closing your window and opening the tool in a new window.

Caryl

 

Homer,

The McDar tools were serving up results today as well - the wrong ones! Just because results were being returned, did NOT mean the tools were functioning properly.

It took me nearly 4 hours to find the offending piece of code!

This can often happen with upgrades. The site was uploaded to a new server with a newer version of server software. The new software didn't like the old code!

There is no way on Gods green earth that Google migrates/upgrades and does not run into incompatibilities.

BTW - No one who contacted me today regarding the tools used words such as "offline...messed up, retarded, or insane". They all reported the tools were broken.

Caryl

 

Hey, Foxy!

Long time no see

Thanks for the update of the supporters links I was just thinking I was going to have to look them up - when I could find the time.

Caryl

 

Bob,

Can you say PERFUCKED!