McDar Experiment

I don't know what datacenter I'm getting from my location in Canada, but the page is not showing any PR or any backlinks at the moment.

 

Thanks, Bob,

I discovered my problem - I had no actual hosts file, just a sample. I just created one and now I can see the updated PRs on the "new" datacenters.

The "new page" is now a PR5 with 49 Backlinks.

 

Same here on KWT

but on your tool

23.

 

BTW your showing at 19 on the .99 series
same on the "new"

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
****Google PR/Backlink update started this AM and currently is in progress!

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
Position#n/a allinanchor:#n/a - 04/08/2004
position#104 allinanchor#32 - 04/09/2004
Postion#232 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/11/2004
Postion#193 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/12/2004
Postion#136 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/13/2004
Postion#133 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/14/2004
Postion#108 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/15/2004
Postion#104 allinanchor:#30 - 04/16/2004
Postion#92 allinanchor:#32 - 04/17/2004
Postion#29 allinanchor:#13 - 04/18/2004 [11 datacenters #30, 4 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
Postion#28 allinanchor:#13 - 04/19/2004 [ 5 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
Postion#29 allinanchor:#15 - 04/20/2004 [16 datacenters #25, 6 datacenters #27]
Postion#25 allinanchor:#7 - 04/21/2004 [All datacenters]
Postion#18 allinanchor: #7 - 04/22/2004 [10 datacenters #19]
Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/23/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:
19 - 4/13/2004
24 - 4/14/2004
40 - 4/15/2004 (most datacenters report 40 but some as low as 31)
37 - 4/16/2004 (7 datacenters report 36, 7 report 42, the rest - 37)
37 - 4/17/2004 (8 datacenters report 36, the rest - 37)
38 - 4/18/2004 (10 datacenters report 37, 16 report 32, the rest - 37)
48 - 4/19/2004 (7 datacenters report 47, the rest - 48)
50 - 4/20/2004 (9 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
50 - 4/21/2004 (7 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
51 - 4/22/2004 (12 datacenters report 48, 5 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
51 - 4/22/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Reported by Google 4/19/2004 (all datacenters)
Reported by Google 4/20/2004 (all datacenters)
Reported by Google 4/21/2004 (all datacenters)
Reported by Google 4/22/2004 (all datacenters)
Reported by Google 4/23/2004 (all datacenters)
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
1 - 4/21/2004
1 - 4/22/2004
1 - 4/23/2004
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# of Links from my posts to this thead
69 4/17/2004 [Edited to remove 20 posts in this thread that did not have link]
75 - 4/18/2004
90 - 4/19/2004
93 - 4/20/2004
97 - 4/21/2004
104 - 4/22/2004
111 - 4/23/2004
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Caryl's Links [links posted 04/07/2004]
2 PR6s & 5 PR5's (no way of telling which are accounted for)
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PR/Backlink info (so far) from the 64.233.161.xxx bank of datacenters

sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's link(?)

 

Note that the PR4s are not showing - does that mean that G is only taking into consideration PR5 and above?

 

Foxy,

There are PR4s showing in the Backlink update! What I find incredible is that Alek's PR 7 link is NOT THERE!!!

Caryl

 

Are they coming from Bobs lot~?

 

Maybe I got banned for too much Hulk'in?!? ;-)
alek

P.S. Feel free to do a "view source" on the page - I assure you it's exactly what it looks like - no "funky tricks", cloaking, or whatever - I don't do that stuff.

It is a little puzzling it doesn't show up - maybe it missed some sort of cut-off date for this update?

 

Aleks page is showing for me

Alek, Wendy, Dirk, and Kyle Komarnitsky Home Page

... what my IP address to Country with Flags; An SEO test to benefit Folding@Home: sleeping bags. UNIX Sysadmin Tools & Presentations.
www.komar.org/ - 7k - 21 Apr 2004 - Cached - Similar

 

Hi Alek,

I did check out your page and everything is clean as a whistle!

Your page with the link showed it was cached by Google on 4/18, however, the link you added was the 53rd link on the page. Perhaps Google will not actually follow that link until some kind of deep crawl.

This VERY important for those following this thread to note: While we are trying to record as much information as possible, there is NO WAY that we can come up with anything but CORRELATONAL DATA. That is to say that we can not say that because two events happened ~the same time, day, whatever, that one influenced the other.

There are too many unknown and uncontroled variables to ever make that kind of statement here.

An example: Today, Google is doing a PR/Backlink update. Google is reporting 49 backlinks to the experiment page. We all know there are more. What we don;t really know nor ever will, is what pages does Google give credit for that Google is NOT reporting.

It is that unknown factor that leaves us still speculating.

By the nature of this experiment, we have attempted to "control for" some of the unknown factors that obscure most webpages.

We know the number of actual links to that page.
We know that there is only ONE anchor text being used.

 

Foxy,

I am referring to viewing the new Backlink information on

search for link:www.mcdar.com/camping1/sleeping-bags.htm

click the aove link to perform the seach on the 64.233.161.98 datacenter (one of the few updated currently)

Alek's site is NOT among those reported.

 

Ummmmm ... I didn't realize I had that many links, although all but 5 point internally ... I should tidy this up a bit one of these days.

BTW, if you wanted me to move the location of the link so it is higher in the page, let me know. I promised I would leave it up for a month if you guys looked at the Goolge Compute page and thanx all who have done so and consider helping out this good cause.

alek

P.S. Hulk glad to see he's not banned by Google.
That would make Hulk mad.
Hulk get strong when he get mad.
Hulk then want to SMASH.
Hulk not sure he could SMASH Google.

alek

 

So if the backwards links are counted even before the PR update, why are some people saying that the serp results will be changing in a couple of days after the PR updates? Is that something different... settling in maybe?

Also, if we don't have to wait for PR update for the serps to reflect the backwards links, google only has to find them. Do different sites get deep crawled at different times or does google do it in one big hunk each month... or both?

 

I see a lot of Google adsense spider!!!!

and one MSN

 

VERY cool link ...
alek

 

Alek,

Apparently you have never clicked on the items in the blue menu bar at the top of every page. Just click on Quick Links. You will find this and several other "cool links".

 

bpal,

Didn't you ask the same question in message # 206 of this thread? Look at McDar's progress reports starting each day from the beginning of this experiment. The evidence is undeniable. From the second the links started to be cached and indexed the page started to move upwards in the SERPs.

There is a ton of bullshit out there about PR and backlinks. This experiment has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that the PR/backlink upgrade has nothing whatsoever to do with the SERP placement. In fact it appears to just be housekeeping on Google's part long after they have adjusted the pages index.