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  1. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #241
    Bob,

    I don't see any cool links in "Quick Links". Do you have your personal options set to something special?

    I also agree with you in your post to bpal, serp changes happen as Google finds links, etc. The Update is just "housekeeping" (I like that phrase).

    Think of the update more as the punctuation at the end of a sentence.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Apr 23, 2004 IP
  2. bpal

    bpal Peon

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    #242
    Good observation. :) Yeah, I think I did pretty much ask the same thing. I was just asking again to gain more of a response regarding the deep crawling aspect.
     
    bpal, Apr 23, 2004 IP
  3. compar

    compar Peon

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    #243
    Well if 'who's online' is a cool link as Alek suggests then the rest of the links might be considered cool also.

    I guess I just think several of the drop down menu's in the forum, like UserPC and Quick Links are very user friendly and helpful-- and hence might be thought of as cool.

    Maybe we Canadian's are just easily impressed.:cool:
     
    compar, Apr 23, 2004 IP
  4. hulkster

    hulkster Peon

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    #244
    I thought the fact that Shawn was picking up on the User Agent to classify that the Goolge Spider was "online" was pretty cool, plus the fact that there was like 5-6 Bots at the same time (and a Mediabot). Shawn has commented before that the number is often in the double digits, but it was neat to see it in person.

    alek
     
    hulkster, Apr 23, 2004 IP
  5. compar

    compar Peon

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    #245
    Alek,

    I don't want to belabor the point but it has been there to see all along. I've looked at the who's online 3 or 4 times and Google seem to always have at least one bot visiting and often more.

    I was just surprised that you hadn't discovered this yourself. There is a lot of great stuff about this forum software. Everyone should experiment and check out all the features.
     
    compar, Apr 23, 2004 IP
  6. hulkster

    hulkster Peon

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    #246
    When you first enter the forums, it shows you who is online at the bottom of the page (and also when you view a specific threat). So I had noticed that, but beyond that, it wasn't really that interesting to me who was online at that (near) instant ... plus it's hard to be an expert in all of the ins/outs of the Forum Software, so maybe that's why I'm just a Grunt and you are a Raider?!? ;-)

    I've seen you be a a bit "tough" on folks, but everybody misses a few things here and there and I appreciate the feedback/information.


    alek

    P.S. I just confirmed that it looks like Shawn has the Bot's mapping to "Guest" in both of those displays I mentioned above - it's not big deal, but my guess is the "User Agent" classification isn't being done on those displays (?)
     
    hulkster, Apr 23, 2004 IP
  7. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #247
    Just to finish it off

    There's a bundle of straight google spiders down there right now at 8.00am our time - midnight yours

    As well as Shawn - you burning that liquid oxygen again? :D
     
    Foxy, Apr 24, 2004 IP
  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #248
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    ****Google PR/Backlink update currently is in progress!
    NOTE: No Change in ANY data since yesterday's results
    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    Position#n/a allinanchor:#n/a - 04/08/2004
    position#104 allinanchor#32 - 04/09/2004
    Postion#232 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/11/2004
    Postion#193 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/12/2004
    Postion#136 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/13/2004
    Postion#133 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/14/2004
    Postion#108 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/15/2004
    Postion#104 allinanchor:#30 - 04/16/2004
    Postion#92 allinanchor:#32 - 04/17/2004
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#13 - 04/18/2004 [11 datacenters #30, 4 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#28 allinanchor:#13 - 04/19/2004 [ 5 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#15 - 04/20/2004 [16 datacenters #25, 6 datacenters #27]
    Postion#25 allinanchor:#7 - 04/21/2004 [All datacenters]
    Postion#18 allinanchor: #7 - 04/22/2004 [10 datacenters #19]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/23/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/24/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:
    19 - 4/13/2004
    24 - 4/14/2004
    40 - 4/15/2004 (most datacenters report 40 but some as low as 31)
    37 - 4/16/2004 (7 datacenters report 36, 7 report 42, the rest - 37)
    37 - 4/17/2004 (8 datacenters report 36, the rest - 37)
    38 - 4/18/2004 (10 datacenters report 37, 16 report 32, the rest - 37)
    48 - 4/19/2004 (7 datacenters report 47, the rest - 48)
    50 - 4/20/2004 (9 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    50 - 4/21/2004 (7 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    51 - 4/22/2004 (12 datacenters report 48, 5 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/23/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/24/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/19/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/20/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/21/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/22/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/23/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/24/2004 (all datacenters)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    1 - 4/21/2004
    1 - 4/22/2004
    1 - 4/23/2004
    1 - 4/24/2004
    __________________
    # of Links from my posts to this thead
    69 4/17/2004 [Edited to remove 20 posts in this thread that did not have link]
    75 - 4/18/2004
    90 - 4/19/2004
    93 - 4/20/2004
    97 - 4/21/2004
    104 - 4/22/2004
    111 - 4/23/2004
    117 - 4/24/2004
    __________________
    Caryl's Links [links posted 04/07/2004]
    2 PR6s & 5 PR5's (no way of telling which are accounted for)
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    PR/Backlink info (so far) from the 64.233.161.xxx bank of datacenters

    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's link(?)
     
    mcdar, Apr 24, 2004 IP
  9. compar

    compar Peon

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    #249
    You know Alek it is a bit of a problem. I'm always ready and willing to offer what knowledge and opinions I have. Sometimes people really appreciate it. I could even find you a couple of links on this forum where they have said so. The problem arises when the information or opinion is not what they want to hear.

    I'm the kind of guy who if I have spinach on my tooth I would want you to tell me. But there are many others who are offended or embarrassed if you offer this help to them.

    So there are times when someone will tell me my attitude sucks or that I'm rude. I just have to try and balance those with the times that people say Wow! thanks for your help.
     
    compar, Apr 24, 2004 IP
  10. hulkster

    hulkster Peon

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    #250
    No problem Bob - lets get back to SEO ... ;-)
    alek
     
    hulkster, Apr 24, 2004 IP
  11. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #251
    NOTICE:

    I have been trying to stay consistant with the time frame I update the daily results for this experiment (for whatever it is worth).

    However, I will be out of town tonight and tomorrow so tomorrow's update will be late.

    If anyone see's a problem with this, please let me know and perhaps I can ask for a volunteer to post the update for tomorrow.

    Thanks,
    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Apr 24, 2004 IP
  12. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #252
    Hey thats not good enough!!! Hehe Just kidding - go have a good time things will wait

    Bob, Alek, both well said - lets move on
     
    Foxy, Apr 24, 2004 IP
  13. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #253
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    ****Google PR/Backlink update currently is in progress!

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    Position#n/a allinanchor:#n/a - 04/08/2004
    position#104 allinanchor#32 - 04/09/2004
    Postion#232 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/11/2004
    Postion#193 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/12/2004
    Postion#136 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/13/2004
    Postion#133 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/14/2004
    Postion#108 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/15/2004
    Postion#104 allinanchor:#30 - 04/16/2004
    Postion#92 allinanchor:#32 - 04/17/2004
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#13 - 04/18/2004 [11 datacenters #30, 4 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#28 allinanchor:#13 - 04/19/2004 [ 5 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#15 - 04/20/2004 [16 datacenters #25, 6 datacenters #27]
    Postion#25 allinanchor:#7 - 04/21/2004 [All datacenters]
    Postion#18 allinanchor: #7 - 04/22/2004 [10 datacenters #19]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/23/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/24/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #6 - 04/25/2004 [7 datacenters #20]
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:
    19 - 4/13/2004
    24 - 4/14/2004
    40 - 4/15/2004 (most datacenters report 40 but some as low as 31)
    37 - 4/16/2004 (7 datacenters report 36, 7 report 42, the rest - 37)
    37 - 4/17/2004 (8 datacenters report 36, the rest - 37)
    38 - 4/18/2004 (10 datacenters report 37, 16 report 32, the rest - 37)
    48 - 4/19/2004 (7 datacenters report 47, the rest - 48)
    50 - 4/20/2004 (9 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    50 - 4/21/2004 (7 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    51 - 4/22/2004 (12 datacenters report 48, 5 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/23/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/24/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/25/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/19/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/20/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/21/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/22/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/23/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/24/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/25/2004 (all datacenters)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    1 - 4/21/2004
    1 - 4/22/2004
    1 - 4/23/2004
    1 - 4/24/2004
    1 - 4/25/2004
    __________________
    # of Links from my posts to this thead
    69 4/17/2004 [Edited to remove 20 posts in this thread that did not have link]
    75 - 4/18/2004
    90 - 4/19/2004
    93 - 4/20/2004
    97 - 4/21/2004
    104 - 4/22/2004
    111 - 4/23/2004
    117 - 4/24/2004
    121 - 4/25/2004
    __________________
    Caryl's Links [links posted 04/07/2004]
    2 PR6s & 5 PR5's (no way of telling which are accounted for)
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info (so far) from the 64.233.161.xxx bank of datacenters

    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's link(?)
    __________________
     

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  14. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #254
    If you are tracking it in the keyword tracker, you should just post the chart it makes (under custom charts you can overlay multiple keywords on a single chart). See attachment for an example...

    - Shawn
     

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  15. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #255
    Thanks Shawn, excellent idea! I edited and added the graph to todays update.
     
    mcdar, Apr 25, 2004 IP
  16. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #256
    I'm naming this group the Beatles

    It just gets better - getting better all the time!

    :)
     
    Foxy, Apr 26, 2004 IP
  17. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #257
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    ****Google PR/Backlink update currently is in progress!

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    Position#n/a allinanchor:#n/a - 04/08/2004
    position#104 allinanchor#32 - 04/09/2004
    Postion#232 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/11/2004
    Postion#193 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/12/2004
    Postion#136 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/13/2004
    Postion#133 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/14/2004
    Postion#108 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/15/2004
    Postion#104 allinanchor:#30 - 04/16/2004
    Postion#92 allinanchor:#32 - 04/17/2004
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#13 - 04/18/2004 [11 datacenters #30, 4 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#28 allinanchor:#13 - 04/19/2004 [ 5 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#15 - 04/20/2004 [16 datacenters #25, 6 datacenters #27]
    Postion#25 allinanchor:#7 - 04/21/2004 [All datacenters]
    Postion#18 allinanchor: #7 - 04/22/2004 [10 datacenters #19]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/23/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/24/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #6 - 04/25/2004 [7 datacenters #20]
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #6 - 04/26/2004 [7 datacenters #20]
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:
    19 - 4/13/2004
    24 - 4/14/2004
    40 - 4/15/2004 (most datacenters report 40 but some as low as 31)
    37 - 4/16/2004 (7 datacenters report 36, 7 report 42, the rest - 37)
    37 - 4/17/2004 (8 datacenters report 36, the rest - 37)
    38 - 4/18/2004 (10 datacenters report 37, 16 report 32, the rest - 37)
    48 - 4/19/2004 (7 datacenters report 47, the rest - 48)
    50 - 4/20/2004 (9 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    50 - 4/21/2004 (7 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    51 - 4/22/2004 (12 datacenters report 48, 5 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/23/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/24/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/25/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/26/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/19/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/20/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/21/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/22/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/23/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/24/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/25/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/26/2004 (all datacenters)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    1 - 4/21/2004
    1 - 4/22/2004
    1 - 4/23/2004
    1 - 4/24/2004
    1 - 4/25/2004
    1 - 4/26/2004
    __________________
    # of Links from my posts to this thead
    69 4/17/2004 [Edited to remove 20 posts in this thread that did not have link]
    75 - 4/18/2004
    90 - 4/19/2004
    93 - 4/20/2004
    97 - 4/21/2004
    104 - 4/22/2004
    111 - 4/23/2004
    117 - 4/24/2004
    121 - 4/25/2004
    127 - 4/26/2004
    __________________
    Caryl's Links [links posted 04/07/2004]
    2 PR6s & 5 PR5's (no way of telling which are accounted for)
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info (so far) from the 64.233.161.xxx bank of datacenters

    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's link(?)
    __________________
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  18. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #258
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    ****Google PR/Backlink update currently is in progress!

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    Position#n/a allinanchor:#n/a - 04/08/2004
    position#104 allinanchor#32 - 04/09/2004
    Postion#232 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/11/2004
    Postion#193 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/12/2004
    Postion#136 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/13/2004
    Postion#133 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/14/2004
    Postion#108 allinanchor:#n/a - 04/15/2004
    Postion#104 allinanchor:#30 - 04/16/2004
    Postion#92 allinanchor:#32 - 04/17/2004
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#13 - 04/18/2004 [11 datacenters #30, 4 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#28 allinanchor:#13 - 04/19/2004 [ 5 datacenters #27, 2 datacenters #22]
    Postion#29 allinanchor:#15 - 04/20/2004 [16 datacenters #25, 6 datacenters #27]
    Postion#25 allinanchor:#7 - 04/21/2004 [All datacenters]
    Postion#18 allinanchor: #7 - 04/22/2004 [10 datacenters #19]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/23/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/24/2004 [7 datacenters #21]
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #6 - 04/25/2004 [7 datacenters #20]
    Postion #17 allinanchor: #6 - 04/26/2004 [7 datacenters #20]
    Postion #19 allinanchor: #7 - 04/27/2004 [18 datacenters #16]
    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:
    19 - 4/13/2004
    24 - 4/14/2004
    40 - 4/15/2004 (most datacenters report 40 but some as low as 31)
    37 - 4/16/2004 (7 datacenters report 36, 7 report 42, the rest - 37)
    37 - 4/17/2004 (8 datacenters report 36, the rest - 37)
    38 - 4/18/2004 (10 datacenters report 37, 16 report 32, the rest - 37)
    48 - 4/19/2004 (7 datacenters report 47, the rest - 48)
    50 - 4/20/2004 (9 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    50 - 4/21/2004 (7 datacenters report 49, the rest - 50)
    51 - 4/22/2004 (12 datacenters report 48, 5 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/23/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/24/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/25/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    51 - 4/26/2004 (7 datacenters report 50, the rest - 51)
    50 - 4/27/2004 (All datacenters )
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/19/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/20/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/21/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/22/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/23/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/24/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/25/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/26/2004 (all datacenters)
    Reported by Google 4/27/2004 (all datacenters)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    1 - 4/21/2004
    1 - 4/22/2004
    1 - 4/23/2004
    1 - 4/24/2004
    1 - 4/25/2004
    1 - 4/26/2004
    2 - 4/27/2004
    __________________
    # of Links from my posts to this thead
    69 4/17/2004 [Edited to remove 20 posts in this thread that did not have link]
    75 - 4/18/2004
    90 - 4/19/2004
    93 - 4/20/2004
    97 - 4/21/2004
    104 - 4/22/2004
    111 - 4/23/2004
    117 - 4/24/2004
    121 - 4/25/2004
    127 - 4/26/2004
    129 - 4/27/2004
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    Caryl's Links [links posted 04/07/2004]
    2 PR6s & 5 PR5's (no way of telling which are accounted for)
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    PR/Backlink info (so far) from the 64.233.161.xxx bank of datacenters

    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's link(?)
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    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    I see it's [G] picked up on one more link [PR4] lets see whether that is it or it picks up the next. I wonder if I should link from the one its picked up to the next - shall I wait a few days first? :)
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    Hi Foxy,

    I think we should just be patient. It is very good for folks to see that just because a link went up, does not mean that Google will find it right away. A lot depends on how deep the page is that it is listed on and how deep Google is crawling.

    Even when Google finds the page with the link, nothing says that Google has followed the link and recorded the linked-to page (as seen by Alek's Link).
     
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