McDar Experiment

Oh well, I guess I just can't get there from here...

We should probably just move on for now.

 

I can now, hadn't been there before so no cache.

 

No I had done that - with Safari being so good you have to be careful - and I just tried again and its fine again

 

Oh well, maybe it is because I have IE version 5.5 (old)

I don't upgrade because the newer versions interfere with other programs I am running.

The Mac has version 5.1.6 , I beleive.

We should just move on...

 

No! No! I was "out for lunch", never "out to lunch". At least not that I will admit. No wine just a big pitcher of Stella Artios.

 

Caryl,

Take your damn network down and re-establish an Internet connection. I really think the problem is on your end.

In any case what is the plan??????

 

ah thats nice in the heat - I'm only kidding about "out to lunch" - i only drink wine and the occasional guinness - lager does not agree with me.

anyways lets get on - what next guys?

 

Bob - tell me what you would like my control site to be like - is it OK as it stands?

Caryl - tell me what you would like.

In that order....not being bossy here!

Rational - when you land ....catch up...hehe

 

Did it... Didn't work...

Lets move on!

 

Foxy, I'm here... waiting my turn...

 

OKay, both of you are gone now.

I will check in now and then later on.

 

I think Foxy's control page is fine. I now have a link up to my experimental page.

So what is the first step? How do Foxy and I manage this job of getting exact and duplicate links? Are we both going to use the same anchor text? I guess we should, but then nobody is going to link to both of us from the same page.

I'd like to stick with the "online poker rooms" anchor text and then we can test some of the things Rational has listed.

I guess we don't have to keep everything identical. If we put up 1,000 links to my page and 500 to Foxy's then I guess we know the impact of 500 extra links.

I have trouble getting my head around how we are going to be able to draw conclusions about sandbox effect from a control page. Can you give me a scenario where having a control page will lead to this type of insight?

What are we going to do with forum sig links? If we both use the same anchor text our normal measurements won't work, because site: plus anchor text won't differentiate to which site the links point. I guess site: plus domain would sort that out???

One varialbe I think we have eliminated with this method is the option to use reciprocal links. Nobody except a research supporter will want to exchange links with one of our experimental pages, I don't think.

 

So Foxy and I are both online, now where is Caryl?

 

I'm Here... Give me a chance to read your reply

 

Bob,

My idea has been that if we have two pages targeting the same keywords and both have the exact same links, we have thus controlled for those variables.

If two pages have the same exact links and one is in position#10 and the other position #20, what conclusions could you draw?

If you took any two pages from the serps one from Position#10 and the other from position #20 what conclusions could you draw?

In the second senerio, we are left guessing about links. Quality of links, theming, etc. We can only speculate.

In the first, we have controlled for the linking so we could eliminate that as a factor. If a sandbox effect was to occur, wouldn't you expect that it would happen to the two sites almost simultaneously? As they both have the same links, added at the same time, and therefore should suffer the same fate.

Has that helped clarify my reasoning or should I try to explain it differently?

You see what I am getting at. An experiment should be a test where you are eliminating as many variables (unknowns) as possible.

 

Ok so tell us what to do.

As I read it you are advocating exactly the same anchor text, quality and quantity of links to both pages. In this case they can both be thought of as control pages.

Let's say we get 1,000 links to both pages that are exactly the same. Having got that issue out of the way what do we then vary?

Foxy and I both have pages in place, so what is step one? How do we manage and oversee this duplicate linking phase?

Who is going to measure, track and report?

 

Got to take my dog for her walk. Be back in 20 minutes.

 

Hey what sort of dog ? We have a cocker - golden - wonderful dog

Anyway perhaps it is for Caryl to call the linking phase coordination and quantity then my page WILL NOT change variables yours will. BTW should the title and first text be exactly the same?

 

She is a 9 year old Beagle. Her name is Bailey. She's a fine dog.

Yes I would think identical titles and first on page heading would be a good idea.

I have Online Poker Rooms as the title of my home page that's why I added the item about "original page" to the test page. But I'm flexible make a suggestion and I'll make the change. As to the first heading, why don't you follow me?