McDar Experiment

Sweet dogs beagles

I have Online Poker, will change to "Online Poker Rooms" and the first heading should be the same.

I have now done that

s... I almost did a link to the zplus2.com with that link

 

PS our dogs name is "Bolli" after the champagne Bollinger

 

Hmmm, You do have a fixation on wine. I actually prefer Charles Hiedsieck.

Now I thinlk you have changed you title to what I specifically suggested not to do, becuase that is what i"m using for my home page and I don't want two pages on my site with identical titles. So add something after the Online Poker Rooms and I'll follow your lead.

 

Well we have 2 cats called Gucci and Prada

Anyway - you may have all missed my earlier post because the site page was going AWOL - here it is again - it may (or may not) influence your test :

BTW - and I don't know if it's for this thread or not...

I have been adding loads of links with my KW1KW2 into my site and it's made no difference to my rankings.

Just before I did this I had been setting up links with Company name KW1KW2(plural) and this moved me up.

I had 14 links with writing a KW1KW2 and I shot up 27 places to#18

So I wonder if just KW1KW2 is working (I have had a look at all my competitors above me (I'm 6th) and they've hardly got any pure KW1KW2 links pointing at them at all.

I've changed my sig here and in other places so I'll let you know

Food for thought

 

I used to have a preference for CH but went to Bollinger and Krug [when I can afford it!]

Changed the page back to Online Poker - Sorry - don't think 5mins could hurt tho

 

In fact I've never met a Champagne I didn't like. What we drink on a regular basis is a Spanish Champagne -- Friexnet -- I prefer the white or clear bottle over the Black -- and I've also enjoyed an Autralian one recently.

I don't know where Caryl is. I think we are both waiting for her lead on this.

 

Now there is a truth. Mumm is very pleasant as well and I used to row in NZ with a mate called Peter Masfen who took over Montana and they produce an excellent sparkling brand Lindauer.

I keep saying to Shawn he should start a wine section on the forum but he somehow doesn't seem keen ... hehe

 

You know there's a Chandon vinyard in the yarra valley near Melbourne Oz that does the most amazing fizzy pop - for us Brits - you can get it in Waitrose for £6.99 - incredible - better drinking it in the vinyard in the ozzy sun but, as it's hot and sunny here then I'm OK

 

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

We will take the two experimental pages that contain similar content, same title, etc. and have one internal link point to each.

We then will have the "volunteers" add links to both of these sites (as many as they want to or are able to donate). The links to both sites will have the same anchor text pointing to them.

We will then record the links (number and type ie. from web page or sig link) that we expect to eventually show up. We will also record the initial placement for each page for the keywords we will be monitoring.

This will be our bench mark!

We can watch the serps for a few weeks to see the progress (or lack there of) each page makes.

After, we are satisfied that links have been recognized and accounted for we should then be able to make some changes to links to one of the pages to see what effect that will have. We will have established positions for both pages and changes in links to one of them SHOULD only effect one of them.

If we see both of them moving, we will be able to attribute the change to Google in some way and NOT neccessarily our changes. If Google behaves, we should have some hard and fast evidence to show the effects of keywords in anchor text to placement.

An example would be:

We start both sites out with the anchor text "online poker rooms". Later on we change the anchor text to only one of the pages to "online poker game rooms" (example only) and we will be able to monitor the effect this anchor text has on ranking for "online poker rooms".

Again, IF Google has a "sandbox" both of these sites should experience the effects and recover in the same time frame as they both will have the same NEW and NUMEROUS links at the same time.

Caryl

Sorry for the long post...

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
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Last 10 days

Postion #29 allinanchor: #5 - 06/01/2004 [1 DC #27, 7 DCs #28] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #29 allinanchor: #5 - 06/02/2004 [ 9 DCs #28] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #28 allinanchor: #5 - 06/03/2004 [ 4 DCs #26, 4 DCs #27] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #27 allinanchor: #5 - 06/04/2004 [ 2 DCs #19, 6 DCs #26] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #25 allinanchor: #5 - 06/05/2004 [ 5 DCs #26] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #24 allinanchor: #5 - 06/06/2004 [ 10 DCs #25, 2 DCs #26] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #27 allinanchor: #5 - 06/07/2004 [ 1 DC #26] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #28 allinanchor: #4 - 06/08/2004 [ 3 DC #27] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/09/2004 [ All DCs] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/10/2004 [ 3 DCs #26, 4 DCs #28] **29 DCs are NOT responding**

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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:
56 - 5/18/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
57 - 6/2/2004 (All datacenters)
58 - 6/3/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
57 - 6/7/2004 (All datacenters)
58 - 6/8/2004 (All datacenters)
57 - 6/9/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date

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Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )

3530 - 6/1/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3590 - 6/3/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3740 - 6/5/2004
3750 - 6/6/2004
3790 - 6/7/2004
3920 - 6/8/2004
Unchanged from previous date
3990 - 6/10/2004
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Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

429 - 6/1/2004
427 - 6/2/2004
435 - 6/3/2004
Unchanged from previous date
457 - 6/5/2004
452 - 6/6/2004
431 - 6/7/2004
414 - 6/8/2004
Unchanged from previous date
397 - 6/10/2004
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"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#19 - 06/1/2004
#20 - 06/2/2004
#18 - 06/3/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#17 - 06/6/2004
#19 - 06/7/2004
#20 - 06/8/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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PR/Backlink info

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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I'm going out soon for about 4 hours so will check in when I get back - if we are a go situation just let me know what you want me to do and I will do it straight away - don't wait for me is what I am saying.

 

Foxy,

The three of us are here right now, I think either you or Bob should do up a "copy and paste" for the urls and anchor text to be used for the experimental pages so folks can get started adding links.

What do you think?

Caryl

 

Bob,

If your new site is trying to target "online Poker rooms" should we compete with that or should the experiment try and target something like "online poker games" (example)?

Caryl

 

Ok so if we can get volunteers to link to the two experimental pages as Caryl suggests that would be great.

The two URLs are:

My page: http://www.online-poker-rooms.nu/poker-rooms.html

Foxy's page: http://www.zplus2.com/online-poker.htm

I think we should use 'online poker games' as the anchor text.

Note: Foxy you and I should both change our titles and on-page content to reflect this. The reason for changing the term from 'online poker rooms' is so that the experiment doesn't end up competing with my real site.

Just so everybody is straight, we are asking everyone who participates to put up two identical links on each page, or in your sig, or whatever the case may be. One to each of the URLs.

The pages are up and running so you can start adding links as soon as you like. Please let us know where and when you add them.

 

CORRECTION:

I have change my URL to http://www.online-poker-rooms.nu/poker-games.html.

Please use that as the link to my experimental page.

 

Should both of you change the name of your pages to poker-games.html?


EDITED: HaHa, you beat me to it, Bob! You are just too good.


We should have Foxy change his as well In fact, just edit his link and we'll worry about him changing the page url when he returns!

 

Yes I think Foxy should do the same. I also changed the page title and the first on-page heading to "Poker Games". Foxy you should do this also.

Anyone putting up links please wait until Foxy confirms the change in his URL.

 

Here's an easy "copy and paste" for anyone interested.

<a href="http://www.online-poker-rooms.nu/poker-games.html">Online Poker
Games</a>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.zplus2.com/poker-games.html">Online Poker
Games</a>

Please let us know if you link to this experiment. i.e. How many links, Location, type (webpage or signature)

Thanks a bunch

 

Bob,

Can we keep track of both experiments in this thread? How do you think we should proceed?

 

The thread is getting damn long. I asked about starting a new thread for this next experiment about 100 post ago. Nobody responded then.

I'm easy either way. Maybe we should ask Shawn if he has any preference. I'll PM him.

Does anyone else have an opinion?