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  1. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #761
    I have mentioned elsewhere that some significant changes happened at this time, 12th May, in Google but what I found interesting was that nobody else saw this [which worried me] - in fact I only saw it about a week later [it was very subtle] by looking at the charts in KWT and I have published one here
     

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  2. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #762
    Foxy,

    Your March and May spikes seem to correspond to the spikes show on

    Rank Pulse which indicates major changes in Google.

    It is odd that when these things occur nowdays, there seems to be little discussion about it. At least not enough discussion to gather clues as to what Google is doing or has done.

    Maybe the lack of discussion is because most are left just scratching their heads.

    I have noted previously in this thread, that where we have seen drops in serps, many others have reported similar drops at the same time.

    It is very hard to separate the effects of our changes and the effects of Googles changes.

    Perhaps, this is a good thing that we are putting up two more experimental pages. It may help us see "Google effects" on all.

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Jun 17, 2004 IP
  3. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #763
    Yep ....... :)
     
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  4. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #764
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _______________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #28 allinanchor: #4 - 06/08/2004 [ 3 DC #27] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/09/2004 [ All DCs] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/10/2004 [ 3 DCs #26, 4 DCs #28] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #30 allinanchor: #4 - 06/11/2004 [ All DCs ] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/12/2004 [3 DCs #44, 8 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/13/2004 [3 DCs #46, 11 DCs #48] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/14/2004 [4 DCs #44, 10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/15/2004 [12 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/16/2004 [10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/17/2004 [8 DCs #46, 5 DCs #49] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #48 allinanchor: #6 - 06/18/2004 [3 DCs #47, 3 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**


    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    57 - 6/7/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/8/2004 (All datacenters)
    57 - 6/9/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    58 - 6/12/2004 (All datacenters)
    59 - 6/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/14/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )

    3750 - 6/6/2004
    3790 - 6/7/2004
    3920 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3990 - 6/10/2004
    4020 - 6/11/2004
    Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - 6/12/2004
    4030 - 6/13/2004
    3890 - 6/14/2004
    3870 - 6/15/2004
    2710[/COLOR] - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2210 - 6/18/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    452 - 6/6/2004
    431 - 6/7/2004
    414 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    397 - 6/10/2004
    374 - 6/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    368 - 6/14/2004
    367 - 6/15/2004
    351 - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    333 - 6/18/2004
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #17 - 06/6/2004
    #19 - 06/7/2004
    #20 - 06/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #22 - 06/11/2004
    #40 - 06/12/2004
    #42 - 06/13/2004
    #41 - 06/14/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________
     

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  5. nadlay

    nadlay Guest

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    #765
    Interesting that this has pop back up today. I've spent an hour or so reading through the early posts - it's a very enlightening thread.

    I'm going to try and finish reading next 50 pages this evening (I'm only up to page 25 so far)
     
    nadlay, Jun 18, 2004 IP
  6. nadlay

    nadlay Guest

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    #766
    Just now reached page 78 - wow, that was a marathon.

    But it was interesting.

    Have you discovered why sleeping bags page has fallen yet?
     
    nadlay, Jun 18, 2004 IP
  7. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #767
    We moved mcdar.net to a new server and have since been having technical difficulties with our tools. :(

    I have temporarily installed working copies on a different website.

    Google Datacenter Watch Tool

    and

    Keyword Analysis Tool - edited to say reg copy now working!

    Sorry for the inconvenience!

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Jun 18, 2004 IP
  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #768
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _______________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #28 allinanchor: #4 - 06/08/2004 [ 3 DC #27] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/09/2004 [ All DCs] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/10/2004 [ 3 DCs #26, 4 DCs #28] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #30 allinanchor: #4 - 06/11/2004 [ All DCs ] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/12/2004 [3 DCs #44, 8 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/13/2004 [3 DCs #46, 11 DCs #48] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/14/2004 [4 DCs #44, 10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/15/2004 [12 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/16/2004 [10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/17/2004 [8 DCs #46, 5 DCs #49] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #48 allinanchor: #6 - 06/18/2004 [3 DCs #47, 3 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/19/2004 [3 DCs #46, 1 DCs #48, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**


    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    57 - 6/7/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/8/2004 (All datacenters)
    57 - 6/9/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    58 - 6/12/2004 (All datacenters)
    59 - 6/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/14/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )

    3750 - 6/6/2004
    3790 - 6/7/2004
    3920 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3990 - 6/10/2004
    4020 - 6/11/2004
    Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - 6/12/2004
    4030 - 6/13/2004
    3890 - 6/14/2004
    3870 - 6/15/2004
    2710[/COLOR] - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2210 - 6/18/2004
    1800 - 6/19/2004
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    452 - 6/6/2004
    431 - 6/7/2004
    414 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    397 - 6/10/2004
    374 - 6/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    368 - 6/14/2004
    367 - 6/15/2004
    351 - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    333 - 6/18/2004
    302 - 6/19/2004
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #17 - 06/6/2004
    #19 - 06/7/2004
    #20 - 06/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #22 - 06/11/2004
    #40 - 06/12/2004
    #42 - 06/13/2004
    #41 - 06/14/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________
     

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  9. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #769
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _______________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #28 allinanchor: #4 - 06/08/2004 [ 3 DC #27] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/09/2004 [ All DCs] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #27 allinanchor: #4 - 06/10/2004 [ 3 DCs #26, 4 DCs #28] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #30 allinanchor: #4 - 06/11/2004 [ All DCs ] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/12/2004 [3 DCs #44, 8 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/13/2004 [3 DCs #46, 11 DCs #48] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/14/2004 [4 DCs #44, 10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/15/2004 [12 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/16/2004 [10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/17/2004 [8 DCs #46, 5 DCs #49] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #48 allinanchor: #6 - 06/18/2004 [3 DCs #47, 3 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/19/2004 [3 DCs #46, 1 DCs #48, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/20/2004 [3 DCs #44, 1 DCs #45, 2 DCs #47] **29 DCs are NOT responding**

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    57 - 6/7/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/8/2004 (All datacenters)
    57 - 6/9/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    58 - 6/12/2004 (All datacenters)
    59 - 6/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/14/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )

    3750 - 6/6/2004
    3790 - 6/7/2004
    3920 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3990 - 6/10/2004
    4020 - 6/11/2004
    Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - 6/12/2004
    4030 - 6/13/2004
    3890 - 6/14/2004
    3870 - 6/15/2004
    2710[/COLOR] - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2210 - 6/18/2004
    1800 - 6/19/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    452 - 6/6/2004
    431 - 6/7/2004
    414 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    397 - 6/10/2004
    374 - 6/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    368 - 6/14/2004
    367 - 6/15/2004
    351 - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    333 - 6/18/2004
    302 - 6/19/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________

    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #17 - 06/6/2004
    #19 - 06/7/2004
    #20 - 06/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    #22 - 06/11/2004
    #40 - 06/12/2004
    #42 - 06/13/2004
    #41 - 06/14/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    PR/Backlink info

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
    ___________
    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
    __________________
     

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    mcdar, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  10. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #770
    I have a feeling that those 29 dcs have had their address altered or are not being used - what do you think?

    Otherwise interesting that it [he/she] has moved positively again :D
     
    Foxy, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  11. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #771
    Have you? :)

    Good thread though Huh? :D

    Anyhows it has started moving back up at this moment - what you should do, if you want, is track the "Weber BBQs" as a comparison - and although we [as a group] did not set it up as a control, I sort of did, and, although not perfect [as a control], it does show some interesting [very] other attributes because the kw phrase is not competitive at all. [Control meaning in this instance something that stays stable without change and without undue competition so it is as much as is possible not influenced by other factors]

    But well done for reading it all - I can tell you that I have read it through again and I am about to do it again as I find myself going back to pages to refresh the braincells [those that are left] so that I can remember what we are currently about! :D
     
    Foxy, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  12. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #772
    :D :D

    There I've done it :D

    I've got two in a row

    I wanted to put three in a row and the MOV said NO!.... :p

    In fact I cannot add another!!!

    So ...thats it!
     
    Foxy, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  13. nadlay

    nadlay Guest

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    #773
    I really enjoyed reading it.

    In fact, I've really enjoyed this whole forum.

    I've probably learned more on this forum in the last two weeks since I joined, than in all the last 8 years on the internet.
     
    nadlay, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  14. Foxy

    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #774
    That is a very kind post :)

    For me this forum has a far more integrated, investigative, interest than any other I have been involved with and, hopefully, it can stay that way!

    Again we must thank Shawn for making it available but equally the credit must also stay with the contributors as Shawn acknowledges as it is they like you who make it. Thanks from me to you for being here too.
     
    Foxy, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  15. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #775
    NEW PAGE UPDATE:
    *Google PR/Backlink update

    The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
    04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

    Search for "Sleeping Bags"
    _______________
    NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
    You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
    ________________
    Last 10 days

    Postion #30 allinanchor: #4 - 06/11/2004 [ All DCs ] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/12/2004 [3 DCs #44, 8 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/13/2004 [3 DCs #46, 11 DCs #48] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/14/2004 [4 DCs #44, 10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/15/2004 [12 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/16/2004 [10 DCs #46] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #47 allinanchor: #6 - 06/17/2004 [8 DCs #46, 5 DCs #49] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #48 allinanchor: #6 - 06/18/2004 [3 DCs #47, 3 DCs #49, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #49 allinanchor: #6 - 06/19/2004 [3 DCs #46, 1 DCs #48, 2 DCs #51] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #46 allinanchor: #6 - 06/20/2004 [3 DCs #44, 1 DCs #45, 2 DCs #47] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
    Postion #43 allinanchor: #5 - 06/21/2004 [3 DCs #42, 3 DCs #45] **29 DCs are NOT responding**

    _____________________________________________________
    note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
    number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

    57 - 6/9/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    58 - 6/12/2004 (All datacenters)
    59 - 6/13/2004 (All datacenters)
    58 - 6/14/2004 (All datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    60 - 6/21/2004 (All datacenters)
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
    Alek's PR 7 Link:
    Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
    Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
    Unchanged from previous date
    Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
    __________________
    note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
    Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
    0 - 4/20/2004
    3 - 5/04/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2 - 6/17/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    __________________
    Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )

    3920 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    3990 - 6/10/2004
    4020 - 6/11/2004
    Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
    4060 - 6/12/2004
    4030 - 6/13/2004
    3890 - 6/14/2004
    3870 - 6/15/2004
    2710[/COLOR] - 6/16/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    2210 - 6/18/2004
    1800 - 6/19/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    945 - 6/21/2004
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    Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
    Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

    414 - 6/8/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    397 - 6/10/2004
    374 - 6/11/2004
    Unchanged from previous date
    368 - 6/14/2004
    367 - 6/15/2004
    351 - 6/16/2004
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    333 - 6/18/2004
    302 - 6/19/2004
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    293 - 6/21/2004
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    "Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
    Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

    #17 - 06/6/2004
    #19 - 06/7/2004
    #20 - 06/8/2004
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    #22 - 06/11/2004
    #40 - 06/12/2004
    #42 - 06/13/2004
    #41 - 06/14/2004
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    PR/Backlink info

    ~ May 31 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
    170 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 170)
    37 of Caryl's links
    46 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    85 for Digitalpoint forums
    1 for Alek's Link
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    ~ April 23 Update ~
    sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
    49 Backlinks
    (backlinks reported in the 49)
    5 of Caryl's links
    42 of Bob's Links
    1 of Foxy's Links
    2 for Digitalpoint forums
    Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
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    compar Peon

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    #776
    The quick conclusion that one could jump to is that the forum sig links were hurting the site? It will be interesting to see if the improvement in SERP placement continues as the number of links indexed continue to diminish.
     
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    Foxy Chief Natural Foodie

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    #777
    I was about to write the same...great minds think alike?

    Lol
     
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    #778
    The page dropped from #30 to #46 on 6/12.

    It really has only varied +/- 3 positions since then. (high #49 and Low #43)

    So, this may only be normal Google Flux. We will see as days roll by if it continues to drift further.

    Caryl
     
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    I would like to bring up a very strange example of unexplained Google changes.

    I have a page that is somewhat optimized for the keywords Camping Equipment.

    This page has NOT been touched since January. No links have been added.

    I started tracking this page in April with Shawn's Keyword Tracker. Please note the WILD position changes.

    Date Rank
    Jun 21, 2004 43
    Jun 20, 2004 123
    Jun 19, 2004 123
    Jun 18, 2004 123
    Jun 17, 2004 122
    Jun 16, 2004 152
    Jun 15, 2004 152
    Jun 14, 2004 152
    Jun 13, 2004 152
    Jun 12, 2004 147
    Jun 11, 2004 148
    Jun 10, 2004 152
    Jun 9, 2004 154
    Jun 8, 2004 154
    Jun 7, 2004 154
    Jun 6, 2004 158
    Jun 5, 2004 159
    Jun 4, 2004 156
    Jun 3, 2004 155
    Jun 2, 2004 153
    Jun 1, 2004 154
    May 31, 2004 153
    May 30, 2004 156
    May 28, 2004 157
    May 27, 2004 155
    May 26, 2004 155
    May 25, 2004 155
    May 24, 2004 153
    May 22, 2004 79
    May 21, 2004 80
    May 20, 2004 79
    May 19, 2004 104
    May 18, 2004 78
    May 17, 2004 80
    May 16, 2004 72
    May 15, 2004 72
    May 14, 2004 68
    May 13, 2004 72
    May 12, 2004 54
    May 11, 2004 39
    May 10, 2004 39
    May 9, 2004 41
    May 8, 2004 48
    May 7, 2004 69
    May 6, 2004 68
    May 5, 2004 78
    May 4, 2004 71
    May 3, 2004 68
    May 2, 2004 67
    May 1, 2004 29
    Apr 30, 2004 51
    Apr 29, 2004 41
    Apr 28, 2004 41
    Apr 27, 2004 28
    Apr 26, 2004 51
    Apr 25, 2004 52
    Apr 24, 2004 34
    Apr 22, 2004 53
    Apr 21, 2004 71
    Apr 20, 2004 73
    Apr 19, 2004 76
    Apr 18, 2004 73
    Apr 17, 2004 73
    Apr 16, 2004 107
    Apr 15, 2004 74
    Apr 14, 2004 75
    Apr 13, 2004 76
    Apr 12, 2004 71
    Apr 11, 2004 75

    Mind you, all of these changes had soley to do with GOOGLE! I have made no internal or external (links) to this page!

    Caryl
     

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    #780
    I have a few like that as well. Basically, any of my kw phrases that are weak due to lack of attention (haven't gone out and gotten backlinks with those phrases, etc), fluctuate wildly like this. If given a tad bit more attention, they'd get more stable, I think. I don't know why it is so, but weak kws tend to do this.
     
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