McDar Experiment

Enjoy! We'll beat this mother to death when you get back.

BTW I'm still rolling around on the floor laughing at your explanation of how busy you have been that you offered on the SEO Chat forum. How come we never get any gems like that on this forum?

For those who did not see it on the SEO Chat forum Caryl said:

"I've been as busy as a one armed paper hanger with crabs". The mental image that conjures up is pretty hilarious.

 

That is a goodie

When you are back is fine by me - enjoy the holiday

Our weather this year is absolute shite so not much fun here - hope yours is better.

 

This has been an absolutely perfect weekend in Waterloo. We had our local outdoor Jazz festival this week end and I sat and listened until almost 11:00 pm last night with simply a short sleeved T-Shirt on.

Caryl is probably less that 100 miles -- as the crow flies -- away from me across lake Ontario so she is probably enjoying the same fine weather.

Edit addition: I should add that I also was wearing pants

 

Thanks for the edit. Talk about mental images!!!

 

Size 42?!? ;-)

 

Size of what????

 

Shall we ask Vicious Summer?!? ;-)

 

The one thing I've always wondered is, if she is Vicious Summer does, that make her Pussy Cat Winter??? You can't be Vicious all your life.

And how about Spring and Fall, or is San Diego to far south to have seasons?

 

While were on those subjects I've always laughed at the abbreviation used for "conspiracy theory" CT

which means Cock Teaser here

BTW envy your weather - but still had a party last night outside!

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
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NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #130 allinanchor: #6 - 07/02/2004 [4 DCs #129, 4 DCs #133, 4 DCs #135, 3 DCs #139] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #126 allinanchor: #7 - 07/03/2004 [3 DCs #121, 5 DCs #123, 10 DCs #127] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #129 allinanchor: #7 - 07/04/2004 [3 DCs #122, 7 DCs #126, 3 DCs #128] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #125 allinanchor: #5 - 07/05/2004 [5 DCs #119, 2 DCs #124, 6 DCs #171] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #172 allinanchor: #6 - 07/06/2004 [5 DCs #164, 6 DCs #171] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #171 allinanchor: #7 - 07/07/2004 [5 DCs #162, 3 DCs #167, 9 DCs #170, 2 DCs #172] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #168 allinanchor: #7 - 07/08/2004 [5 DCs #161, 4 DCs #167, 2 DCs #166] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #171 allinanchor: #4 - 07/09/2004 [2 DCs #164, 4 DCs #165, 10 DCs #170] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/10/2004 [2 DCs #164, 3 DCs #165, 8 DCs #169, 3 DCs #172] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #168 allinanchor: #5 - 07/13/2004 [7 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**

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note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

69 - 7/02/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
67 - 7/04/2004 (All datacenters)
64 - 7/05/2004 (All datacenters)
65 - 7/06/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
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note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004

190 - 7/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
197 - 7/03/2004
213 - 7/04/2004
234 - 7/05/2004
237 - 7/06/2004
Unchanged from previous date
254 - 7/08/2004
249 - 7/09/2004
245 - 7/10/2004
252 - 7/13/2004
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Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

216 - 7/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
209 - 7/04/2004
219 - 7/05/2004
212 - 7/06/2004
Unchanged from previous date
220 - 7/08/2004
225 - 7/09/2004
Unchanged from previous date
203 - 7/13/2004
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"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
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PR/Backlink info

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
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~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #184

 

UPDATE:

You can check the current status of the pages anytime at...

Experiment 2

Still no placement for either page in the regular serps!

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Allinanchor:
Online Poker Games: Bob 16 & Foxy 14
Online Poker: Bob 144 & Foxy 143
Online Games: 0 for both
Poker Games: Bob 36 & Foxy 26

Links Found: 2200
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It is still curious to me that neither page is listed anywhere in the regular serps for ANY of these keywords!

 

I have been searching by 100 per page and Google has been reporting:
www.mcdar.com/camping1/sleeping-bags.htm @ 168 (experimental page)
www.mcdar.com @169

I assumed that the second page (main site) was the "additional" page added to searches when requesting 100 per/page.

As it turns out, The main site (www.mcdar.com) is the page at position 169 and the Experiment Page is really listed in position 185.

www.mcdar.com is listed in Google as having 153 Backlinks (88 of which have sleeping bags as anchor text)

www.mcdar.com/camping1/sleeping-bags.htm is listed in Google as having 325 Backlinks (all of which have sleeping bags as anchor text)

It now seems very obvious that Google has some "issues" with the links we are using to the Experiment Page.

Since we are due for a Backlink/PR Update very soon, I would suggest that we wait to see where we stand with reported backlinks at that time and make our adjustments (whatever we decide to do) then.

What does everyone else think?

 

I'm happy with that recommendation. I'm reasonably confident that part of the present situation is a screw up on Google's part. I think we would be chasing our tails if we made a lot of changes before we give them time to get their house in order.

 

Likewise - in total agreement.

As an aside I had the opportunity of sitting with a 14 year old and his 17 year old brother on Sunday night working on my computers at a party we hosted.

They both used Yahoo for searching because of the "crap" results they were getting off Google.

They both complained bitterly about the nonsensical results they were getting recently and the huge numbers of "directories" they encountered before they got any relevant results so they had switched - they did not use the adwords at all.

Now my wife had made the same comment so here were two different groups of people saying the same - that is starting to be a worrying sign!!

 

NEW PAGE UPDATE:
*Google PR/Backlink update

The "New Page" sleeping-bags.htm
04/07/2004 "New Page" went live

Search for "Sleeping Bags"
_____________
NOTE: Due to size constraints, the entire report can no longer appear in a post.
You can view the entire report here... Complete Report
________________
Last 10 days

Postion #130 allinanchor: #6 - 07/02/2004 [4 DCs #129, 4 DCs #133, 4 DCs #135, 3 DCs #139] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #126 allinanchor: #7 - 07/03/2004 [3 DCs #121, 5 DCs #123, 10 DCs #127] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #129 allinanchor: #7 - 07/04/2004 [3 DCs #122, 7 DCs #126, 3 DCs #128] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #125 allinanchor: #5 - 07/05/2004 [5 DCs #119, 2 DCs #124, 6 DCs #171] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #172 allinanchor: #6 - 07/06/2004 [5 DCs #164, 6 DCs #171] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #171 allinanchor: #7 - 07/07/2004 [5 DCs #162, 3 DCs #167, 9 DCs #170, 2 DCs #172] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #168 allinanchor: #7 - 07/08/2004 [5 DCs #161, 4 DCs #167, 2 DCs #166] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #171 allinanchor: #4 - 07/09/2004 [2 DCs #164, 4 DCs #165, 10 DCs #170] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/10/2004 [2 DCs #164, 3 DCs #165, 8 DCs #169, 3 DCs #172] **29 DCs are NOT responding**
Postion #168 allinanchor: #5 - 07/13/2004 [7 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**[/B]
Postion #170 allinanchor: #4 - 07/14/2004 [12 DCs #169] **29 DCs are NOT responding**

_____________________________________________________
note: these pages are found using ( site:www.compar.com +sleeping Bags )
number of Bob's PR6 and PR5 links found:

69 - 7/02/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
67 - 7/04/2004 (All datacenters)
64 - 7/05/2004 (All datacenters)
65 - 7/06/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
67 - 7/09/2004 (All datacenters)
70 - 7/10/2004 (All datacenters)
76 - 7/13/2004 (All datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.komar.org +sleeping Bags )
Alek's PR 7 Link:
Not reported by Google 4/17/2004
Reported by Google 4/18/2004 (all datacenters)
Unchanged from previous date
Link removed / no longer pointing to page 6/2/2004
__________________
note: this page is found using ( site:www.ski-france-ok.com +sleeping Bags )
Foxy's PR5 and two PR4s
0 - 4/20/2004
3 - 5/04/2004
Unchanged from previous date
2 - 6/17/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
Bob and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on this forum 5/06/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.digitalpoint.com +sleeping bags )
Note:Foxy & Bob removed links from Signatures - 6/11/2004
4060 - highest links reported 6/12/2004

190 - 7/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
197 - 7/03/2004
213 - 7/04/2004
234 - 7/05/2004
237 - 7/06/2004
Unchanged from previous date
254 - 7/08/2004
249 - 7/09/2004
245 - 7/10/2004
252 - 7/13/2004
256 - 7/14/2004
__________________

Caryl and Foxy added link Sleeping Bags to their sig files on the SEO Chat forum 5/11/2004
Results for - ( site:forums.seochat.com +sleeping bags )

216 - 7/01/2004
Unchanged from previous date
209 - 7/04/2004
219 - 7/05/2004
212 - 7/06/2004
Unchanged from previous date
220 - 7/08/2004
225 - 7/09/2004
Unchanged from previous date
203 - 7/13/2004
206 - 7/14/2004
__________________

"Sandbox" info - this search theoretically removes "sandbox" link filter
Results for - ( sleeping bags -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -dsa -das -das -dsa )

#34 - 06/22/2004
#33 - 06/23/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#78 - 06/25/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#74 - 06/27/2004
Unchanged from previous date
#131 - 07/05/2004
Unchanged from previous date
__________________
PR/Backlink info

~ June 22 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
325 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 325)
50 of Caryl's links
56 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
149 for Digitalpoint forums
70 for SEO Chat forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________

~ May 31 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR6
170 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 170)
37 of Caryl's links
46 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
85 for Digitalpoint forums
1 for Alek's Link
___________
~ April 23 Update ~
sleeping-bags.htm has PR5
49 Backlinks
(backlinks reported in the 49)
5 of Caryl's links
42 of Bob's Links
1 of Foxy's Links
2 for Digitalpoint forums
Nothing for Alek's PR7 link(the link on Alek's page is 53rd link - may validate the 50 link/page theory)
__________________

Note:Google API has page at #186

 

Does this mean people are going to start flocking towards MSN?

On a more serious note many people have echoed the same sentiments to me and I agree it is worrying.

Mick

 

Do you Guys think this is new or do people always bitch about search engines. It seems to me people have been saying "I can never find what I'm looking for" for years. Frequently it is because the have no idea how to search.

Your wife excepted of course Foxy

 

Yes there certainly always has been a level of moans and groans. Likewise I always put it down to inexperienced searchers. But recently people who know what they're doing have been questioning the relevance of the Google SERPs when the first twenty results throw up some glaringly unrelated pages.

Mick

 

Well Google must have been talking to Vicious Summer and decided, like she has, that they don't like optimized or relevant pages.

 

I think that is the nub of why I posted the comment - I had been soft peddling on the entreaties of my wife, but, to be truthful she had not moaned before, and, suddenly here were some young people who were computer savvy [impatient of course - aren't we all] making similar comments.

And, you know, this has been going on for some months now - you get an unsettled period - which returns your positions not just quite after a little time with a load of directories inbetween - and then another unsettled period, which may or may not return you to where you last were.